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spyderdude
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My new to me Sig P229 9mm
davidbee
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Is this normal the Trigger chipping the black off of Frame of SIG P226R brand new 200 rounds through it..
Please tell me if anyone here has seen this...is my mim trigger super strength ?
I kid..
but please tell me...Sig really was no help over the phone.
Please tell me if anyone here has seen this...is my mim trigger super strength ?
I kid..
but please tell me...Sig really was no help over the phone.
joe_security
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My gripframe has a small chip from making contact with the corner of a magazine floor plate at the range. The finish is anything but heavy duty.
DeputyRet
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My newest SIG...P226 Navy
DeputyRet
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"happen to like the DAK trigger system and have seen some very accurate shooting during classes, the concern that is raised is: why would you manually cock a DA/SA Sig?
this is especially confusing in light of your having attended a quite few formal firearm classes...i'm unaware of any well known shooting shoot that teaches cocking the hammer on the first shot of a DA/SA pistol"
Actually, quite a few folks like to draw and cock a DA semi. It gives a much nicer first round trigger pull and you are much more likely to hit what you are aiming at. Not sure if it's taught in any formal training classes, but the method IS used, and it wouldn't surprise me if somewhere they do teach it.
Have you ever seen the Israeli method of draw?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdZ3hZ8y-w
this is especially confusing in light of your having attended a quite few formal firearm classes...i'm unaware of any well known shooting shoot that teaches cocking the hammer on the first shot of a DA/SA pistol"
Actually, quite a few folks like to draw and cock a DA semi. It gives a much nicer first round trigger pull and you are much more likely to hit what you are aiming at. Not sure if it's taught in any formal training classes, but the method IS used, and it wouldn't surprise me if somewhere they do teach it.
Have you ever seen the Israeli method of draw?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdZ3hZ8y-w
Prion
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Davidbee, you're still stressing about this gun? Serious OCD man, and I thought I was bad!
Both of mine have similar trigger marks on the frame.
Don't worry, be happy!
Both of mine have similar trigger marks on the frame.
Don't worry, be happy!
Well that is a blast from the past...being over 4 months old...my first thought was, "Wow...he sounds just like me"
While it could be argued if a SA trigger pull is nicer than a DA trigger pull, constant evolution in training technique has proven that hitting with the first DA trigger is not less accurate and certainly not slower than the SA. Unless you LE career is much older than mind, I have a hard time believing that this technique was taught at your academy. I try to stay fairly current with handgun training doctrine...believe me, while it might be possible to find a small training program that teaches cocking a DA/SA pistol to SA for the first shot, none of the mainstream programs teach such an obsolete technique for defensive shooting.
I am very familiar with the Israeli technique. I leaned it when it was introduced 40+ years ago. It was a technique that was mandated due to their lack of uniformity in available sidearms when their nation was formed. It was a technique taught predicated on carrying the sidearm with an empty chamber...something else that isn't taught in modern defensive handgun shooting
davidbee
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I am done....I am done with guns!!!!
Maybe a 1911...No Maybe a Glock 30SF...No I dont know.
Maybe a 1911...No Maybe a Glock 30SF...No I dont know.
Prion
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Dude, you need to chill!!!
I hate to witness this terrible suffering. Send your gun to me asap, I will care for it like my own and you can relax and get some sleep.
BIGGBAY90
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Sig----all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1911s
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Love my P238!
DeputyRet
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"While it could be argued if a SA trigger pull is nicer than a DA trigger pull, constant evolution in training technique has proven that hitting with the first DA trigger is not less accurate and certainly not slower than the SA. Unless you LE career is much older than mind, I have a hard time believing that this technique was taught at your academy. I try to stay fairly current with handgun training doctrine...believe me, while it might be possible to find a small training program that teaches cocking a DA/SA pistol to SA for the first shot, none of the mainstream programs teach such an obsolete technique for defensive shooting.
I am very familiar with the Israeli technique. I leaned it when it was introduced 40+ years ago. It was a technique that was mandated due to their lack of uniformity in available sidearms when their nation was formed. It was a technique taught predicated on carrying the sidearm with an empty chamber...something else that isn't taught in modern defensive handgun shooting"
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Ultimately, you do what is best FOR YOU. I'm retired. I carried a S&W 4566. I ALWAYS cocked it as I pulled it from the holster. Probably because prior to the 4566 I carried a 1911A1 and did the same thing with it. My old agency went 100% with Glock, so this system isn't useable, although the Israeli system IS useable. And if I carried a Glock, I sure would use that system all the time.
There are about a ZILLION training programs out there teaching an equal amount of techniques. You select what is best for you and the gun you are using. Different strokes for different folks
BTW...the Israeli method was used mainly for safety reasons. It was a technique easily learned by the populace and eliminated accidental discharges and still worked effectively at killing bad guys.
Dep
I am very familiar with the Israeli technique. I leaned it when it was introduced 40+ years ago. It was a technique that was mandated due to their lack of uniformity in available sidearms when their nation was formed. It was a technique taught predicated on carrying the sidearm with an empty chamber...something else that isn't taught in modern defensive handgun shooting"
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Ultimately, you do what is best FOR YOU. I'm retired. I carried a S&W 4566. I ALWAYS cocked it as I pulled it from the holster. Probably because prior to the 4566 I carried a 1911A1 and did the same thing with it. My old agency went 100% with Glock, so this system isn't useable, although the Israeli system IS useable. And if I carried a Glock, I sure would use that system all the time.
There are about a ZILLION training programs out there teaching an equal amount of techniques. You select what is best for you and the gun you are using. Different strokes for different folks
BTW...the Israeli method was used mainly for safety reasons. It was a technique easily learned by the populace and eliminated accidental discharges and still worked effectively at killing bad guys.
Dep
Sheepdog1968
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I've got a small chip somewhere in that general area. It happened somewhere in the first 1,000 rounds. I've got about 10,000 rounds through mine. I wouldn't worry about it. The chip has not grown and in general,the finish is holding up very very well. The fancy word for nicks and scratches is "patina".Is this normal the Trigger chipping the black off of Frame of SIG P226R brand new 200 rounds through it..
Please tell me if anyone here has seen this...is my mim trigger super strength ?
I kid..
but please tell me...Sig really was no help over the phone.
Sheepdog1968
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AZglock13, that sure is one pretty Sig. I like the contrast between the stainless and the wood.
frankiestoys
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My newest toy
Just picked up a pre-owned Sig P220. No rail. I love this gun. I really love this gun. I don't know how old it is because when I called Sig with the serial number, they said that their database was down for maint for a bout a week. Just the same. I love this weapon and plan on purchasing another, brand new, smaller Sig before the years out for Concealed EDC. Then I will buy another full sized with a rail,... cause, well, you gotta have a rail on your night stand piece, right? Then I'll buy a Sig........
Oh boy. Soooo addictive....
Oh boy. Soooo addictive....
docnyt
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Save your pennies for the rebirth of the legendary 210...
I have to agree with DeputyRet. I am also a retired LEO and carried a G-19 condition 3 (Chamber empty) for optimum safety, but there are times, such as a very close range armed robbery, where a condition 3 start could indeed be a problem. Because of that I switched back to a "J" frame S&W.
Recently had the occasion to dry fire a P220DAK. What an amazing DA trigger pull!! So, here I am reading a SIG thread thinking about carrying chamber loaded in a 220 or 226 DAK in lieu of the S&W 442. Just a thought - KW
Recently had the occasion to dry fire a P220DAK. What an amazing DA trigger pull!! So, here I am reading a SIG thread thinking about carrying chamber loaded in a 220 or 226 DAK in lieu of the S&W 442. Just a thought - KW
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