Simple Combat Shotgun info wanted

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Glockster35

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Fellow THR posters,

I am interested in researching a new shotgun purpose. Although because of my current living situation I cannot make the purchase right now, I will be making it within the next two years.

I am interested in building or buying a Combat Shotgun, mostly for use in home security and target shooting scenarios. Eventually I would like to try Three Gun competition, but that is a long time away for me.

I would prefer to stay with either the Mossburg or Remington brands, but am not set right yet which one is a better deal. I won't rule anything out yet.

My price range is somewhere under $500.

What are your thoughts, and feel free to post pics of your combat piece.
 
Research the Archives here and back on TFL, our ancestral forum for much input.

"Serious" shotgunning tends to the Big Four pumps and a few autos.

Like the vast majority of "Serious" shotgunners, I prefer the Remington 870. Durable and reliable beyond belief, it's the cruiser shotgun for maybe 90% of the police depts in the US.

The other Big Four shotguns(Winchester 1300, Mossberg 500/590, Ithaca 37) are also very good defensive shotguns. Pick one,run a few thousand rounds through it and enjoy.

Remember the software is more crucial than the hardware. Practice and training are the keys to proficiency.

HTH....
 
Glockster35,

Welcome to the wonderfull world of shotguning. First off let me say that Dave is once again, as always, right on. I just wanted to add to his insights.

There is no doubt that you can put together a very good "Combat" shotgun for well under $500.

If you do a search of the web, specificlly of the Wilson Combat / Scattergun Technology web site you will get some good ideas about what is being done with the art of social shotguns. As I've commented on in another thread Wilson Cbt. makes a fine shotgun. I just believe they are overpriced.

I would start out with a Remington 870 in 12 guage. Any large chain store such as Wal-Mart sells the Express version of this gun for around $260 brand new. That will give you a platform to build off of. You should be able to find some good deals as well on used 870's at pawn shops or through a private sale.

IMO ideal 870 will have a 3" chamber, 18" barrel either with or without iron sights - depending on what your long range plans are. If you think that eventually you will want Ghost Ring type sights get the plain barrel.

If you have any mechanical skill at all you should be able to put everything together yourself with the exception of maybe drilling and tapping the receiver for ghost ring sights if you decide you wanted them.

Then as funds and time allow I would add the following items, in no certain order.

Surefire front end light. For me a light is a MUST HAVE item on any firearm of this type.

Oversized safety - there are quite a few people who will disagree and say the factory safety is fine but my preference is clearly for the oversized ones.

Replace the factory shell follower with some type of hi visibility follower that is advertised as not allowing the spring to bind. I've yet to have a spring bind with the factory follower but what the heck. Also consider getting a stronger aftermarket stainless steel magazine spring at this point.

I like ghost ring sights on SGs. They are one of the best things I've added to my "social" SG and would say get them.

Lastly a good tactical sling is something to consider. I like the CQB solutions sling. While a sling can get in the way if you're in very close quarters I like the idea of having one on my gun. A tactical sling allows me to use one hand to open doors or more commonly scratch myself as the need arrises :)

I've gone back and forth on the issue of magazine extensions. I've had one on my gun, taken it off, put it back on, and taken it off again. Personnaly mag. extensions are a coin toss. I like the idea of them, but my gun is set up currently without an extension. If you do get an extension I would definately get a good magazine tube / barrel clamp. The military has a GREAT clamp that I wish I could get one of. It fits right at the end of the barrel and mag tube and IIRC has something to do with alllowing a bayonett to be attached to the Shotgun. Not that I would, or suggest anyone should put a bayonett on their SG.

Anyway hope that helps.

Rob
 
Mossberg should be cheaper for pumps, Rem better Quality (more refined) IMO.

If your on a budget you can get new NEF Single shots for about $80.00 at Wal Marts, or new inexpensive doubles for about the price of a used pump.

Not sure what you mean about current living situation. If it is money problem a used DA 38/357 revolver and a NEF single or used pump can be had for very cheap.
 
I am currently living in Germany, where I can't own any guns without going through the German gun laws. So I will not be making the purchase for a while. I still have three years over here.

I know Big 5 used to sell a mossburg combo that had a 24 and 18.5 inch barrel included. Are these worth buying?
 
the combo guns are short magazine tube mossbergs, where the tube only holds four rounds or so. they're a decent buy if you want a HD gun and a bird gun.


IMHO, a better way to go would be to buy the 20 inch long tube mossberg. same price, and 7 round tube.
 
While I have some confusion as to what you mean by "combat shotgun", I think that you can probably get your wishes fulfilled for ~$300. Any pump will more than perform to your expectations. Spend the difference on ammo or training.

If you want a quality SG which has all the bells and whistles, then look here: http://www.vangcomp.com/ Look at the Mossberg marine & tactical shotguns.

-To my knowledge, no one has ever complained about quality of Vang Comp guns. I have seen amazing groupings from vang barrels.

But since you are 3-years out, prices don't really mean much.
 
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