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Single shot rifle

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by pwillie, Jan 3, 2011.

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  1. pwillie

    pwillie Member

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    I am currently looking at three single shot rifles,Blaser 95,Dakota Model 10,and the Merkel K......all these rifles are expensive to say the least,so does anyone have any input in a selection? Quality,workmanship and accuracy...waiting for opinions,Willie:cuss:
     
  2. Jim Watson

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    Beats me, that decision is way over my pay grade. I make do with a Browning and a Winchester.

    There used to be a nice single shot made right here in Alabama, but Alan Hall quit them in favor of bolt actions for benchrest shooting.
     
  3. sappyg

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    hey P,
    i saw your earlier post re: falling blocks. i didn't comment then b'c you had experience with the # 1's which i have and enjoy. a bit out of my league but the only rifle sexier than a #1 is a Dakota #10. seriously!
    i think the others brake open if IIRC and are probably lighter. can't speak to the D10 but #1's are heavey IMO.
    i quess the question is what about these rifles interest you? what specific use do you have for one of these excellent machines?
     
  4. SaxonPig

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    No experience or knowledge of the listed rifles except that they are very expensive.

    This works for me...

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    So does this...

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    And this...

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  5. HOOfan_1

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    If you like those break opens, how about the BRNO effect?

    Personally I like the falling blocks better and the Farquharson most of all. But I have no experience with them.
     
  6. eastbank

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    this is my favotite single shot,a browning low wall in 260 rem. eastbank.
     

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  7. pwillie

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    I have looked at the Brownings and Winchesters,have owned several Rugers.The weight is the problem,and it seems the Dakota action (model 10) is one of the lightest....its hard to part with 4-5 grand for a safe queen(maybe use it once or twice a year)...but how about the break opens? Any experience with these?.. I love the Ruger # 1,but they are so heavy...anyway to lighten them?
     
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    Browning is reintroducing the B78. I think, and have for almost 40 years that the B78 is one of the most attractive SS rifles I've ever used or owned.
     
  9. jem375

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    The trouble is that most single shot rifle makers like Browning, Ruger, and Dakota think their rifles are made out of gold. I have 2 T/C rifles, G2 and Encore and they are not cheap and they are very good rifles also...At least they are good enough for me..
     
  10. SaxonPig

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    The #1 is "so heavy?" I think the typical example goes about 8 pounds. What do you want? Maybe you had better stick with a plastic Air Soft gun.
     
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    Browning 78 Winchester 1885 (they reintroduced them) and Ruger No.1
     
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    go with the NEF...you could have at least 20 of them for the price of the blaser lol
    or 10 with nice scopes
     
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    For the budget mentioned, I'm sure you could get a gunsmith to build any moderate caliber on a CBC shotgun action (or any break-open action you supply). That way you could get a carbon spaced liner into a shotgun configuration and it would be almost as light a field grade.

    There are some lovely older 410's out there that could be simply re-barreled to say 22-250 or something if you want a real hot rod? What is the end goal here?
     
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    I was shocked that the Dakota 10 didn't shoot as well as my Browning 1885. For the money, one expects superb accuracy. However wood fit and finish are first rate on the Dakota.

    I'll keep my low walls as well.

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    Remington 40XB rifles. They have a custom shop, pick wood, metal work, what every you want to $pend.
     
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    Get an old H&R - tried and proven - and cheap. Of course you don't get the "bragging rights" with these little gems.

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  17. Paul47

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    I've drooled a lot over those guns, but I won't carry a gun if it makes me feel bad, or makes me several hundred dollars poorer, to put a scratch on it. Who needs that?

    My faves are the High Walls and Low Walls. The only real problem with these (or any falling block single shot) is scoping them. I hate scopes over the action, they really make the gun clumsy and cover the loading port. I have scout scoped a Low Wall and much prefer it that way. My eyes are too old for irons.

    I have a Thompson TCR and a Contender Carbine. They have their place, and barrel interchangability is nice, but they are a notch below the "Walls" in my opinion.
     
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    PIG: The problem with the weight of the Ruger,is carrying the 10 +lbs around all day while stalk hunting (Plus the weight of the scope) .The Merkel comes in around 6.5 lbs,and the Dakota is about the same.I have owned several Rugers,and the weight plus the triggers are a problem....I just sold one in 257 Weatherby..Stainless with a laminated stock....heavy,heavy,..!!.Made it a great shooter!I am leaning towards a 280 Dakota model 10....:fire:
     
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    I have looked at the Browning High Wall's but "Made in Japan" turned me off..
     
  20. Robert Wilson

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    The early Dakotas weren't always the most accurate guns around. Those of more recent vintage tend to be above average. I understand the company is in flux at the moment, which might affect your decision.

    The break-opens don't always have a great reputation for accuracy either, and they're not as strong as falling blocks. Extensive use with high-pressure cartridges - especially handloads assembled by the "The loading manuals are written by lawyers" types - can accelerate wear on break-open guns. Having said that, such guns can be very accurate and perfectly strong, with sane loads.

    The limited experience I have had with European single-shots leads me to believe that they are at least as accurate as the typical American magazine rifle, but not as accurate as "specialty" bolt rifles meant for exceptional accuracy. You can almost certainly count on the Merkel and Blaser to be honest 1.5 MOA guns, which doesn't light any fires among the internet cognoscenti but will, in Mr. Cooper's words, do everything that needs to be done in the field. The Dakota has the best workmanship of the three, IMO, with better machining tolerances and wood-to-metal fit. The Euros are no slouches in either department, with the Blaser probably the Dakota's equal in machining tolerances. For some reason, though, the Europeans don't seem to regard wood-to-metal fit with the same importance as do the Americans and Brits. Merkel in particular likes "proud" wood, which still strike me as less pleasing to the eye.

    Regarding weight, the Ruger #1 is a more-or-less copy of the Farquarson, which was originally used primarily for cartridges now regarded as on the large end of the scale. Most of the original Farkys are chambered in things like the .450 NE, which really ask for nine or ten pound rifles. So to my mind, the Ruger is a great gun in the "Tropical" guise, but maybe less than ideal for the 7x57 and the like. For a stalking rifle to be used on light-to-medium game, I absolutely understand the desire for a six or seven pound gun, and it's there that the OP's choices shine, IMO. On the other side of the coin the Dakota 10 looks kind of silly to me when chambered in something like the .450 Dakota. Each to his own, of course...
     
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    I agree about the Big Bore Dakota 10. I have no problem with a heavy loaded Ruger(which is very strong). I was impressed with the Merkel and Blaser singles weight for medium size cal. Am still thinking about the Falling Block Works action.MPI makes a light weight stock for a Ruger that I had chambered in 300 Wthby.The new accurizer that E Arthur Brown sells really works.;)
     
  22. Robert Wilson

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    Is EAB selling the the Hick's Accurizer? I've heard good things about it, but have had good success simply drilling and tapping the spring hanger, then using a set screw to force the hanger away from the barrel. Same principle as the Hick's, but cheaper (albeit more work.)

    Frankly, despite all the badmouthing Ruger takes, I've found most of their newer (<10 years old) production #1s to be fine in the accuracy department, and generally haven't needed to go to the trouble of "fixing" the spring hanger - especially with the heavy-barreled "Tropicals", which I adore.

    FWIW, this thread has made me decide to take a close look at the Browning Low Walls. Beautiful guns!
     
  23. HOOfan_1

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    But made in Germany doesn't put you off about the Merkel and Blaser?

    I thought everyone knew that Made in Japan wasn't a put down anymore....

    How about made in New Zealand?

    http://www.sorokarifle.com/
     
  24. pwillie

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    HOO DO:! "Made in Japan" doesn't appeal to me as an investment....German,and Italian guns keep their value much better.I grew up when Made-in Japan was junk.Austria and most of the European gun makers set the bar in fine rifle making.Japan is having trouble making Toyota's...Arisaki ring a bell?:D
     
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    My "Hicks" accurizer was fitted by a smith that does bench work in Selma,Al. He was trained at the old Walker Arms in Selma. I may end up with a Falling Block Works rifle,who knows?:evil:
     
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