Sinister Model 1860 Snubby

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As much as I like shooting the 1860, the snubby is a real hoot to shoot! and it has some practical applications as well. Mine was shortened (by me) when the long 8" barrel proved too much for comfort. I prefer the long 1860 grip so left that as is. At some point I will reprofile the lug but other things are demanding bench time ahead of cosmetic surgery.

A full chamber of powder under a round ball is a great deal of fun. And accurate to boot!
 
A full chamber of powder under a round ball is a great deal of fun. And accurate to boot!
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I have tested that idea (full chamber) in 20 different black powder revolver designs and some 50 different guns. In every single one the full chamber was less accurate, as measured by group size, than a partially filled chamber. I certainly agree, however, with the first part of your statement.
 
mykeal said:
I have tested that idea (full chamber) in 20 different black powder revolver designs and some 50 different guns. In every single one the full chamber was less accurate, as measured by group size, than a partially filled chamber. I certainly agree, however, with the first part of your statement.
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I have been able to improve on this "full chamber" accuracy issue by lengthening and cleaning up the forcing cone on Cap and Ball revolvers.
 
mykeal,

With a barrel this short, I consider hitting the lid of a 5 gallon pail at 25 yards accurate. When using full sized revolvers, like you, I find a lesser charge to score more points.

Fortunaltely, I no longer am consumed by accuracy and have been able to enjoy shooting again. It took quite a while to overcome the idea I had to get the last .000001" out of my shooting.
 
Erich said:
Round-butting.
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Erich

I have toyed with that quite a bit and cannot come up with a workable (read as affordable and aesthetically pleasing) solution. I know it has been done but the welding, if steel, or brazing, if brass and the amount of finish work really isn't feasable cost wise to most consumers. The "birdshead" grip frames are available from parts suppliers but I do not know how well the Pietta would interchange. You might call EMF and ask their gunsmith about that. I have traded 1851 and 1860 grips on Piettas and other than being proud (on the edges) they work well. Uberti would probably interchange better and there are pics posted of members who have done this.

If I can help you with a project like this let me know!
Gary
 
i would love to snubberize my 1860 and try to match up some of the thunderer or other birdshead-ish style grips to it. i have seen a few here on THR that looked pretty slick :)
 
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Hoof Hearted

I normally don't personally care for the shortened black powder "Avenging Angels." Got to say, yours is the exception. That's one classy little pocket gun.
 
Thanks!

I just finished one for a pard from over on the CAS forum and I will try to get some pics of it up if the weather permits tomorrow. I hope ya'll like it! This one is an 1861 Pietta and has a Nitre Blue finish.

I've had lots of questions in this post and via PM..........these type of projects are seasonal for me and have to fit in between the work I do for Kirst. Most people feel my pricing is fair, my work is good and I like to think I have a keen eye for balance and eye appeal.


Regards, Gary
 
Well, Hoof. I like it. I think the 1860 looks better when chopped.
Yer teasin' us by mentioning a Defender 1858, then not showing us pics.
I'm dying to see one. Yer breakin' me heart.

How much do you charge to lengthen and polish the forcing cone on 51 Navies and 58 Rems?
Also on ROA?

I'd make the tooling and do it myself, but I don't know what angle works best on these.
Yer the professional. I'd just as soon let you do it for me.
Are you the one who silver plates 58 Rem trigger guards?
 
Jaymo said:
Well, Hoof. I like it. I think the 1860 looks better when chopped.
Yer teasin' us by mentioning a Defender 1858, then not showing us pics.
I'm dying to see one. Yer breakin' me heart.

How much do you charge to lengthen and polish the forcing cone on 51 Navies and 58 Rems?
Also on ROA?

I'd make the tooling and do it myself, but I don't know what angle works best on these.
Yer the professional. I'd just as soon let you do it for me.
Are you the one who silver plates 58 Rem trigger guards?
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I do 'em for $20.00 each and quite often (if needed) just throw it in for free if the pistol comes here for other custom work!

It's my feeling that the final product on a "redo" tells the story of my commitment and the end user is my best advertising................

P.S.
Major2 you received a two step forcing cone of my own design on the Sinister model pictured above.
 
arcticap said:
Everyone has always mentioned cutting an 11 degree chamfer.
And that also seems to be the angle of the cutters that Brownell's offers for nearly every caliber revolver.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26151/Product/11-deg-CHAMFER-CUTTER

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26161/Product/11-deg-38-45-INTERMEDIATE-CHAMFERING-KIT
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The Chamfering kit that articap listed here is a good one if any of ya'll feel like spending the money. You can also buy the cutter from Brownells and make the rod, bushing, and handle it you have the desire to save even more money. Be careful not to cut corners though, a bad forcing cone job will be worse than the forcing cone you have now...........
 
i like that second one also. what is the type of finish on the grips? i am also curious what metal finishing/bluing process you use. i seem to just be getting all kinds of interested in this stuff as of late :p
 
If you are referring to the one on the fossil........
The finish is Nitre Blue and the grips are the stock finish as supplied on an EMF Hartford model (just stained and oiled).
 
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