Sizing Jacketed Bullets

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Swampman, Check your 303 bore size some run to 0.315" most are around 0.311"/0.312".
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ps, the bsa barrels twist at 1:8, they like a heavy bullet 174g is the best weight. many years ago I tried Norma 303Brit in 150g at 400yds they went in sideways
 
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Swampman, Check your 303 bore size some run to 0.315" most are around 0.311"/0.312".
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ps, the bsa barrels twist at 1:8, they like a heavy bullet 174g is the best weight. many years ago I tried Norma 303Brit in 150g at 400yds they went in sideways
The only .303 rifle I have left is an early Remington Pattern 14. The bore mikes. 312" and is in pretty good shape except for some erosion just ahead of the chamber. It shoots flat base jacketed bullets of .311" or greater fairly well, but pretty much just vomits boattails and anything cast in the general direction of the target.

Cordite must have been Hell on barrel throats.
 
Ooops my apologises, id forgotten the none Lee rifles. Its our stiff upper lip tends to cloud the memory lol. Your right about the cordite but it did shoot nice, however the old mercury based primers were far more corrosive then the cordite.
Ive not had the flat v boat tail problem with my Lee rifles but I have come across it in the older P14s and the like. Havent a clue why it happens ..
Just a passing thought, if your using open base fmj's could the resizing be reversed the the open base swaged to remove the boat tail ???? or even fit a very tight gas check,,,,, as I say just a passing thought.
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Well, I discovered that RCBS has closed their custom shop earlier this year, so I went to Lee and asked them to make me a die to draw .224 bullets down to .223. $38 (plus postage) later, it arrived on Saturday. It came with the die, push rod that clips into the shell holder, a bottle of Alox and a storage container that also serves to collect the resized bullets.

I set it up per the instructions, lubed up a Sierra 40 grain .224 jacketed soft point bullet with Hornady Unique and pushed it through the die. It went through with surprisingly little effort. So little effort that I started to worry that Lee had sent me a .224 die and not a .223 die, but that worry was short-lived. Lee had done everything they promised.

The push rod pushes the bullet through the die but not out of the die. It appears that subsequent bullets are supposed to do that. Since I only had the one test bullet, I pushed it would with a pin punch. There was no resistance to hand pressure, just enough that it wouldn't fall out of the die when I unscrewed it and turned it upside down.

The body of the bullet indeed bore the marks of having been worked by the die. My digital caliper gave inconsistent readings, but the micrometer doesn't lie. The bullets came out of the die .2230 at the point where the ogive met the body. The body gradually increased in diameter until at the base it was about .2236. Since the consensus of the two gunsmiths who slugged the chamber and barrel was that it was "about .2235, this should work fine.

I'll come back and "ressurect" this thread when I get a chance to test a loaded round using both the factory .223 bullets and the drawn .223n bullets.

But, in response to my own questions - some of which have already been answered by others in very helpful posts - jacketed bullets can be put through a die and successfully resized to a smaller diameter. The resized bullet doesn't appear to have been damaged in any way and the jacket still seems to be firmly attached to the lead core.
 
Varmintterror wrote:
I'd be lying if I told you I could feel the difference between sizing a solid and one of my jacketed lead core HotCor's.

Thank you for thinking about that and actually running the test for me. Your results helped give me the confidence to go ahead and start sizing jacketed bullets when the die came.

I'll have to wait to let you know about my experience with the lead-free bullets since they were packed up and shipped off to the family farm last year and are now languishing in a sealed box in an underground storm cellar awaiting my retirement and relocation.
 
You should be able to size them out just fine once you get a die that gets them to proper diameter. I have done tons of pulled 308 and 50 cal bullets on the rockchucker with lee push through dies.
 
redbullitt wrote:
I have done tons of ... bullets on the rockchucker...

I have an RCBS Reloader Special (no compound leverage) so I was thinking I would end up getting a workout, but the .224 bullet ran through the .223 die with far less effort than is required to form 30 Carbine brass into 5.7mm Johnson brass. :what:

I ordered a Rockchucker when Midway had them on sale and RCBS was offering a rebate, but I had it shipped to my retirement property so I haven't had a chance to use it yet. :oops:

But that's just 66 more work days away. :)
 
I have had trouble getting bullets for my .32 Remington model 14. With the question about drawing .224 bullets to .223, could I size 8 mm bullets at .323 down to .321 for the 32 Rem ? The problem is the location of the crimping groove on the bullet. You guys got me thinking.
 
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...could I size 8 mm bullets at .323 down to .321 for the 32 Rem ?

Based on my experience with .224 jacketed bullets, I don't see why not. The larger diameter means greater force will be required, but it shouldn't be an unreasonably large amount of force. Still, the only way you're going to know for sure is to risk the $38 (plus shipping) for a custom size die and try it out for yourself. To order a custom sizing die see https://leeprecision.com/custom-lube-and-sizing-kit.html
 
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