Kimber1911_06238
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What kind of accuracy can I expect out of a Yugo SKS? Is 3 moa at 100 yards unreasonable to expect?
SKS Accuracy?
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At 100 yards, with match grade ammo and a STEADY hand, and a newer SKS with no or limited throat and muzzle erosion, MAYBE.
Kimber1911_06238
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I realize they aren't supposed to be super accurate...was just wondering if I could shoot at a 8 inch steel plate at 100 yards? or is this an unrealistic expectation?
db_tanker
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that is actually a very reasonable expectation.
You should ring the gong no problem.
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You should ring the gong no problem.
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ZeSpectre
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My SKS time has all been limited to a 50 yard indoor range but assuming the gun is in good condition I would estimate that is a reasonable expectation.
Most people (including me) use cheapo Russian ammo, and then complain about the accuracy (I just use it for plinking.). With decent ammo(and assuming the bore/crown is good), most with shoot 2-3" groups at 100 yards. Some (including my scoped SKS-M) will do better (1.5" or so).
Other than actual barrel damage, the 2 biggest obstacles to "tack-driver" shooting with an SKS are crude sights with a short sighting radius, and so-so ammo.
I have seen the "Tech-Sights" on a couple of the SKS's, and they make a HUGE difference...aperture-type sight, with a longer radius.
3 MOA is not an unreasonable expectation.
I have seen the "Tech-Sights" on a couple of the SKS's, and they make a HUGE difference...aperture-type sight, with a longer radius.
3 MOA is not an unreasonable expectation.
M2 Carbine
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I'd be VERY happy if I could count on my SKS mostly shooting 3 inches at 100yards.
My experiences with my old Yugo SKS are similar to dfaugh's. Shooting AE ammo, I got groups under 2" using a peep sight. Mine was in unissued condition, however, so the barrel was new. Also, groups shooting Wolf, Barnaul, etc., weren't as good (maybe 4"-5").
SKS's aren't bad--you just have more to overcome in order to shoot them accurately (poor sights, trigger, and ammo). An 8" gong at 100 yds. shouldn't be a problem.
SKS's aren't bad--you just have more to overcome in order to shoot them accurately (poor sights, trigger, and ammo). An 8" gong at 100 yds. shouldn't be a problem.
Technosavant
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That's exactly what I was thinking. 7.62x39 isn't a caliber that is used in "match" shooting, so the ammo usually isn't the most consistent. Sure, it's good enough for hunting or defense, but short of handloading, you won't be getting superaccurate loads. In addition to that, Eastern Bloc sights are notoriously poor.
The rifle, however, is capable of being rather accurate- although they tend to be crude, the SKS is also usually well built. I'd think 3MOA wouldn't be too much to ask if you did your part and the ammo was high quality.
possum
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if you can't something is wrong and it ain't the rifle. i could do that with my xd service model.
everytime!
My Yugo SKS shoots about 3MOA with open sights and my poor eye sight.
I've heard that the main problem of (lack of) accuracy in the SKS is largely attributable to the fact that the bore is slightly larger than is ideal for the bullets used in 7.62x39. I have heard of reloaders taking slightly larger (.308?) bullets and using them instead of ones specifically for 7.62x39 and, with a barrel recrowning on a slightly worn rifle, being able to get down to the 1MOA range while firing in 'grenade launcher' mode.
I've heard that the main problem of (lack of) accuracy in the SKS is largely attributable to the fact that the bore is slightly larger than is ideal for the bullets used in 7.62x39. I have heard of reloaders taking slightly larger (.308?) bullets and using them instead of ones specifically for 7.62x39 and, with a barrel recrowning on a slightly worn rifle, being able to get down to the 1MOA range while firing in 'grenade launcher' mode.
the naked prophet
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Caimlas, the AK/SKS and other 7.62x39 rifles actually use a bullet of diameter .311" as opposed to western 7.62 rifles that use .308" bullets. So a .308 would be a step down in size.
I was thinking about picking up a couple of these rifles for trunk guns (cheap enough that if stolen, I won't be heartbroken) but I really prefer aperture or peep style rear sights, whichever is on the AR (a mojo is already installed on my AK). Is there a cheap version that's a drop-in replacement for the rear tangent leaf on an SKS or am I going to have to spend half again the price of the rifle to buy a set of new sights?
I was thinking about picking up a couple of these rifles for trunk guns (cheap enough that if stolen, I won't be heartbroken) but I really prefer aperture or peep style rear sights, whichever is on the AR (a mojo is already installed on my AK). Is there a cheap version that's a drop-in replacement for the rear tangent leaf on an SKS or am I going to have to spend half again the price of the rifle to buy a set of new sights?
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Most people dont give the AK's and SKS's much credit for accuracy, and its their loss. If you cant consistently make good COM hits on a silhouette target at 200 yards using the open sights on either, your doing something wrong.
I shot this using my Russian SKS and Wolf 154 grain SP's at 100 yards
and this with a SAR1 at 200 yards, using the same Wolf ammo
I've had the best luck with the 7.62x39 accuracy wise, with the soft points, and especially the Barnaul's. Wolfs FMJ's and HP's can be hit or miss, but usually are not as bad as a lot of people will tell you.
I shot this using my Russian SKS and Wolf 154 grain SP's at 100 yards
and this with a SAR1 at 200 yards, using the same Wolf ammo
I've had the best luck with the 7.62x39 accuracy wise, with the soft points, and especially the Barnaul's. Wolfs FMJ's and HP's can be hit or miss, but usually are not as bad as a lot of people will tell you.
Here's the best value in sights for SKS and AKs for drop-in replacement sights.
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/st...x?p=16333&title=AK/SKS+ADJUSTABLE+REAR+SIGHTS
They're cheap-they're good- they're easy to install. Take out the old sight-drop in the new sight.
The best sight for the SKS is the TechSight. It's more than double the price, but rock solid. If you like the M1 Garand aperture sight, this is of the same caliber. I can almost guarantee a big difference in your improvement in accuracy if you're a fan and can use peep sights. The TechSight is that good.
I have two Tech Sights on SKSs, two of the Williams aperture sights on SKS and AKs. All are so much better than the stock SKS and AK sights.
Try one of the Williams on either the SKS or AK you have, but aren't satisfied with the open sights you're now using.
For $25.00 you'll do much better. If you want the best SKS sight, get the TechSight at around $60.00. It's tough as nails and worth the price. It offers a repeatable mount and dismount without changing POI and POA.
But try either of these sights first before you give up on the accuracy of the SKS and AK you currently shoot. I'm betting you see a difference.
Steve
http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/st...x?p=16333&title=AK/SKS+ADJUSTABLE+REAR+SIGHTS
They're cheap-they're good- they're easy to install. Take out the old sight-drop in the new sight.
The best sight for the SKS is the TechSight. It's more than double the price, but rock solid. If you like the M1 Garand aperture sight, this is of the same caliber. I can almost guarantee a big difference in your improvement in accuracy if you're a fan and can use peep sights. The TechSight is that good.
I have two Tech Sights on SKSs, two of the Williams aperture sights on SKS and AKs. All are so much better than the stock SKS and AK sights.
Try one of the Williams on either the SKS or AK you have, but aren't satisfied with the open sights you're now using.
For $25.00 you'll do much better. If you want the best SKS sight, get the TechSight at around $60.00. It's tough as nails and worth the price. It offers a repeatable mount and dismount without changing POI and POA.
But try either of these sights first before you give up on the accuracy of the SKS and AK you currently shoot. I'm betting you see a difference.
Steve
Kymasabe
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Hey SGPhoto....I've heard of some shooters using the Williams Fire Sight in front with a TechSight in the rear. Since you have both (but on different guns), does it sound possible to you? Will that combo work?
DMK
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I have that combo on one of my SKS. It works quite well.
You need the TS200 Techsight that has both elevation and windage adjustments though. The Williams front Firesight is not adjustable at all.
I don't have the WIlliams Firesight Front Sight. I'm using the existing front sight on both the SKS and AKs (Saigas).
As my eyes have aged, an aperture sight gives me the ability to focus on the front sight. A Bright luminescent front sight tends to glow or "bloom" a little too much for accuracy as opposed to the regular front iron blade front sight.
Changing the front sight might help you even more, but definitely changing the rear sight will.
Hope that helps.
Steve
As my eyes have aged, an aperture sight gives me the ability to focus on the front sight. A Bright luminescent front sight tends to glow or "bloom" a little too much for accuracy as opposed to the regular front iron blade front sight.
Changing the front sight might help you even more, but definitely changing the rear sight will.
Hope that helps.
Steve
Skofnung
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With good ammo and an undamaged crown, yes, the rifle should be capable of that or better.
A nasty trigger will hinder you, as may the sights, but both of those problems are fairly easily taken care of.
A nasty trigger will hinder you, as may the sights, but both of those problems are fairly easily taken care of.
tinygnat219
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Well,
Let me tell you about an experience I had this weekend. It's the last day of the extended deer season in Loudon County, VA. I was with a group of hunters who wanted to drive the deer out of the woods and into a field where there were four of us waiting (land owner has noticed some signs of overpopulation and has asked us to cull some does. )
There must have been 15-20 deer that streaked across the field, running in a zig zag pattern at 20-25 mph. They had to be 150 yards away. BIG does too! I hear 6 other big kabooms from my hunting buddies.
Well, I opened up with my SKS with the deer in my iron sites. I bang away once, twice. I missed. 5 minutes later 15 more come out of the same woods!
I realize one of my hunting buddies is in my line of fire (he moved), so I switched to another firing lane and wait for the does to go into the woods. I let loose with 8 more shots, one after the other. I missed every blinking one and was in the middle of reloading when 3 more scoot across.
The three guys who were driving the deer came out of the woods with grins asking if we had gotten the 10 that they'd seen. They said they heard what sounded like a machine gun when the deer came out. I sheepishly said that I had missed all the deer. I gained a new respect for these deer. This is my first hunting season, and the first time I have ever fired on a living, moving, target with an SKS, or any other rifle.
In all, 21 shots were fired and we ALL missed those three groups.
Definitely has me stoked for next season. The owner of the land is looking at getting another deer day in since the cull was unsuccessful.
Let me tell you about an experience I had this weekend. It's the last day of the extended deer season in Loudon County, VA. I was with a group of hunters who wanted to drive the deer out of the woods and into a field where there were four of us waiting (land owner has noticed some signs of overpopulation and has asked us to cull some does.
)There must have been 15-20 deer that streaked across the field, running in a zig zag pattern at 20-25 mph. They had to be 150 yards away. BIG does too! I hear 6 other big kabooms from my hunting buddies.
Well, I opened up with my SKS with the deer in my iron sites. I bang away once, twice. I missed. 5 minutes later 15 more come out of the same woods!
I realize one of my hunting buddies is in my line of fire (he moved), so I switched to another firing lane and wait for the does to go into the woods. I let loose with 8 more shots, one after the other. I missed every blinking one and was in the middle of reloading when 3 more scoot across.
The three guys who were driving the deer came out of the woods with grins asking if we had gotten the 10 that they'd seen. They said they heard what sounded like a machine gun when the deer came out. I sheepishly said that I had missed all the deer. I gained a new respect for these deer. This is my first hunting season, and the first time I have ever fired on a living, moving, target with an SKS, or any other rifle.
In all, 21 shots were fired and we ALL missed those three groups.
Definitely has me stoked for next season. The owner of the land is looking at getting another deer day in since the cull was unsuccessful.
Thin Black Line
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Chinese or Yugo SKS with decent ammo and iron sites: No problem hitting a
torso at 300 yards. To the people who can't hit milk jugs at 100 yds --it's
you, not the rifle.
torso at 300 yards. To the people who can't hit milk jugs at 100 yds --it's
you, not the rifle.
Take your time, if your first shot doesn't hit, then you're only going to be even more off target than you were before.
I say this, but if I miss a pop can with my 10/22 then it's usually safe from the following couple rounds shot out of fustration until I realize I need to aim to hit stuff.
I love my yugo, and 3" at 100 yards doesn't seem unrealistic at all. If you upgrade anything, upgrade the sights.
I say this, but if I miss a pop can with my 10/22 then it's usually safe from the following couple rounds shot out of fustration until I realize I need to aim to hit stuff.
I love my yugo, and 3" at 100 yards doesn't seem unrealistic at all. If you upgrade anything, upgrade the sights.
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I don't have a Yugo, but do have a Norinco SKS. It has always shot 1 inch groups with whatever ammo I have used (all surplus). Maybe I am lucky with what I bought.
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