SKS in combat situation
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Titan6
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Not really.
collateral
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I think it's a damn fine candidate for a short range combat rifle, and I'm sure plenty of people have met their demise at the hands of one.
It's capable of IMO, acceptable combat accuracy, meaning that if you practice, you should be able to hit a man sized target.
It's not as "modular" as an AR, and without aftermarket mags (which aren't combat proven), it won't lay down as much fire as an AR. But it has it's own advantages.
stripper clips can be a plus, you could carry more ammo on you than you could with 30 round mags.
If you use it how it was intended to be used, and not try to turn it into something it's not, I think you'll have satisfactory results.
It's capable of IMO, acceptable combat accuracy, meaning that if you practice, you should be able to hit a man sized target.
It's not as "modular" as an AR, and without aftermarket mags (which aren't combat proven), it won't lay down as much fire as an AR. But it has it's own advantages.
stripper clips can be a plus, you could carry more ammo on you than you could with 30 round mags.
If you use it how it was intended to be used, and not try to turn it into something it's not, I think you'll have satisfactory results.
Lucky
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Seems it's easy to clip stuff onto an AR15 until it's heavier than an SKS. If you've got no willpower, that could be a minus. AR15 will also eat up thousands of dollars on that bolt-on stuff, that the SKS would use for ammo.
If you started with a set amount on money and 2 twins with equal skill, SKS guy with ammo for practice would be more effective I'd think.
And conversely, what's the point of giving a human land-mine an expensive rifle?
If you started with a set amount on money and 2 twins with equal skill, SKS guy with ammo for practice would be more effective I'd think.
And conversely, what's the point of giving a human land-mine an expensive rifle?
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Really.
Nice long sight radius, rapid reloading via stripper clips, a steel buttplate on a hardwood butt, and a larger bullet make the SKS an excellent match for the AR-15. No select fire, but my AR-15 isn't select-fire, either. They're also easy to clean and maintain.
Nice long sight radius, rapid reloading via stripper clips, a steel buttplate on a hardwood butt, and a larger bullet make the SKS an excellent match for the AR-15. No select fire, but my AR-15 isn't select-fire, either. They're also easy to clean and maintain.
What about ammo availability?
I can't decide between an SKS and SU-16.
An SU-16 is good I figure because it has a lot of politically correct 5 round mags (the only legal kind in a my non-2nd-amendment-recognizing-municipality) and plenty of hi cap mag availibility later down the line; in case it really hits the fan.
I guess what i'm asking is - is upgrading to a 10 round and up mag SKS a realistic goal or would you fare just fine with a standard 10 round detached (and that assumes that ammo is almost as easily available as ammo for the ar-15).
If the SU-16 wasn't plastic -- my decision would be a whole lot easier.The other thing is a dealer has an SKS for sale for 600 bucks, used. I could get the SU-16 new for that much. Although I would have to ship it.
I can't decide between an SKS and SU-16.
An SU-16 is good I figure because it has a lot of politically correct 5 round mags (the only legal kind in a my non-2nd-amendment-recognizing-municipality) and plenty of hi cap mag availibility later down the line; in case it really hits the fan.
I guess what i'm asking is - is upgrading to a 10 round and up mag SKS a realistic goal or would you fare just fine with a standard 10 round detached (and that assumes that ammo is almost as easily available as ammo for the ar-15).
If the SU-16 wasn't plastic -- my decision would be a whole lot easier.The other thing is a dealer has an SKS for sale for 600 bucks, used. I could get the SU-16 new for that much. Although I would have to ship it.
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sharkhunter2018
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SKS wouldn't be a bad choice. Mag capacity is limited, but with practice you can load it and top it off using stripper clips easily. There are aftermarket mag options but in my experience as well as plenty of others, it is a waste of time and money.
They are a bit heavy depending on the model but they are reliable and built like tanks. Like the AK, an SKS could take just about any abuse that is thrown at it.
The SKS definitely would not be any match for the AR in the accuracy department. It is certainly accurate enough for typical distances encountered during battle though.
They are a bit heavy depending on the model but they are reliable and built like tanks. Like the AK, an SKS could take just about any abuse that is thrown at it.
The SKS definitely would not be any match for the AR in the accuracy department. It is certainly accurate enough for typical distances encountered during battle though.
AllAmerican
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Nick,
I recently bought an SKS. They can be had for around $250 online. I paid $250 for mine.
I think you should buy one and then spend the rest of the dough on ammo.
I recently bought an SKS. They can be had for around $250 online. I paid $250 for mine.
I think you should buy one and then spend the rest of the dough on ammo.
What about the reliability of 10 round detachable mags for the SKS? Are they prone to jamming and ineffective like the 30 round ones? I can't have a fixed mag SKS in my jursidiction since it has more than 5 rounds. Although you never know; liek I said in my original post: someone near me supposedly bought and registered a police dept approved pistol grip shotgun -- that's supposedly not legal.
And I think the way things are headed -- with our moron politicians -- a period of serious civil disruption is not out of the question in my lifetime
So what's the point of an SU-16?
And I think the way things are headed -- with our moron politicians -- a period of serious civil disruption is not out of the question in my lifetime
So what's the point of an SU-16?
rcmodel
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You can stuff a 10-round stripper clip in an SKS and be shooting again in less time then it takes to type it.
Detachable mags are a waste of natural resources when it comes to the SKS.
rc
Detachable mags are a waste of natural resources when it comes to the SKS.
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AllAmerican
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LEAVE THE FREAKIN GUN STOCK!!!!!
The 10 round fixed mag on it and some stripper clips will do you right.
If you start to mod it then you're just asking for trouble IMO.
I thought long and hard about doing the Bubba thing to mine and putting the Tapco stock on it and using the Tapco mags but it just isnt needed.
Hit the SKS forums for 922 compliance and stuff.
Keep it stock. Its a beautiful rifle. And, I agree with the post above that with practice it will be just as accurate as the AR and just as deadly. You dont want to get shot with either. LOL
You can pin the fixed mag to only accept 5 rounds no? So you cant have a fixed 10 round mag but you can have detachable 20 rounders? Thats a new one to me.
The 10 round fixed mag on it and some stripper clips will do you right.
If you start to mod it then you're just asking for trouble IMO.
I thought long and hard about doing the Bubba thing to mine and putting the Tapco stock on it and using the Tapco mags but it just isnt needed.
Hit the SKS forums for 922 compliance and stuff.
Keep it stock. Its a beautiful rifle. And, I agree with the post above that with practice it will be just as accurate as the AR and just as deadly. You dont want to get shot with either. LOL
You can pin the fixed mag to only accept 5 rounds no? So you cant have a fixed 10 round mag but you can have detachable 20 rounders? Thats a new one to me.
sharkhunter2018
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You're better off sticking with the 10 rnd fixed mag. I tried the detachable mag route and it was a total and complete waste of time. Just buy a bunch of stripper clips and practice loading with them. It can be just as fast and depending on the individual, faster than detachable mags.
No you can't have anything above 5 rounds either way supposedly. But like I was saying if the need arises -- say in period of civil disorder -- I'd like the option of a high capacity detachable mag. Form eveerything I read here, the SKS is most effective with fixed mag and I can't have that.
Looks like I'll get an SU-16 and be done with it I guess. I just hate the idea of a plastic gun however.
Looks like I'll get an SU-16 and be done with it I guess. I just hate the idea of a plastic gun however.
sharkhunter2018
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Again, detachable SKS mags are a waste of time.
The one 30 rounder I tried would not feed more than 10 rounds via stripper clips. It also would not feed reliably.
The one 30 rounder I tried would not feed more than 10 rounds via stripper clips. It also would not feed reliably.
AllAmerican
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In a few weeks Ill be picking up another SKS from my local guy. This one Im getting for $200 since its been modded to have the detachable mag and the fixed mag is long gone.
You can see where they took out a little of the wood so the mag would fit. Ill buy a fixed mag online and return it to its original condition if I can.
Ill sell the mag to someone....
You can see where they took out a little of the wood so the mag would fit. Ill buy a fixed mag online and return it to its original condition if I can.
Ill sell the mag to someone....
barneyrw
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I own two, a Russian and a Chinese, both purchased in the late 1980's. They are actually a very good battle rifle. Very sturdy, reliable, and well engineered. I once read that one of the marks of a good battle rifle is if it feels lighter and shorter than it really is. I think the SKS fits that description. In this age of light, selective fire assault weapons, it's probably not a first line weapon any more than an M1 Garand is, but it will probably do the job in 99% of the situations. Even in that last 1% it will probable still be fair to middlin'. Think of it as a 10 round M1 Garand shooting a mid-range cartridge.
Lucky
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Partly because SKS's are fun and cheap to buy and feed.
Partly because they're contemplating ripping off- err selling you one for $600 themselves.
Partly because they're contemplating ripping off- err selling you one for $600 themselves.
And in some ways this is better than a Garand - more rounds, less recoil, lighter. It won't do suppressive fire, but then, that is not what most of us would ever need to do, anyway.
The SU16 is really a whole nother thing. It seems like a nice rifle, but it is definitely not as tested.
I am surprised that nobody has suggested this one yet but why not search for a Norinco model B or model M. They are the sporter models which came from the factory to take AK mags. I have one and I think of it as a rifle I can go to in a pinch and I will not feel undergunned. As a matter of opinion as well, I find it to be more ergo correct and more accurate than either one of my AK's. The only drawback I have found for this rifle is that you really need to practice your mag changes in order to be proficient.
Glockman17366
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The tool is secondary to the mindset.
And, yep, the Vietnamese did a fine job with "obsolete" firearms.
WardenWolf
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If you want what amounts to an SKS with a detachable mag, get a Saiga 7.62. It's an AK with a hunting stock. Yeah, I know, it's an AK, not an SKS, but it's highly accurate for an AK (about 2.5 MOA) and will do what you want it to do. Weight is about the same, too.
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