SKS Legal Questions, Not the standard 922r Stuff.

[blo0dyhatchet]

Ok, I bought a Yugo SKS for 100 bucks. The stock was painted this odd camo color and I refinished it. I had the urge to do something unusual to it. I wanted to make it an underfolder. So far I am fully 922r compliant with many tapco parts etc. Right now I have no stock, just a pistol grip. Is this legal as it is now?
Pics can be seen here ( http://picasaweb.google.com/seventwiztid/SKS ). I do plan on adding an underfolder stock once I can get my hands on one, but am curious as to how I sit now. Thanks for any advice.
Barrel is right at 16.5 inches, overall is 26 inches.

 

[GRIZ22]

Is it actually 26" or 25.95" which is short enough to get you charges with an unregistered SBR. If I had any inclination to do the same I would have left a little of the stock's pistol grip and made sure it was at least 27". It might not look as good but would be legal.

 

[blo0dyhatchet]

So 26" is the legal overall limit? I plan on attaching a muzzle break once i get the barrel threaded which will make it a full 27.5 inches.

 

[Technosavant]

If you are 922r compliant, then all you need to worry about are the overall length and barrel length issues, since with the appropriate number of US made parts, it is a US-made rifle for all legal purposes, no different from an AR in that respect.

But yeah, keep an eye on the length, and definitely go towards the long side. Personally, I don't think I'd have chopped the barrel; you can get muzzle brakes that thread right on once you've removed the grenade launcher. But then again, that leaves a fairly long barrel length.

 

[blo0dyhatchet]

I had an AR-15 style muzzle break on it before I cut it down and plan on re-threading the barrel for it to go back on. I looked way to long with out the stock, and it took off a lot more weight than I had expected.

 

[wdlsguy]

What methodology did you use to come up with the 16.5" and 26" measurements?

I plan on attaching a muzzle break once i get the barrel threaded which will make it a full 27.5 inches.

The muzzle brake needs to be "permanently attached" if you are counting on it to increase the barrel / overall length. Silver soldering is one such method.

 

[blo0dyhatchet]

Measured tip of barrel to tip of stock and comes to just over 26" On the barrel, i stuck a dowel down it till it met bolt face and came right past 16" I do plan on soldering on the Muzzle break once I get it threaded.

 

[wdlsguy]

The overall length of a weapon made from a shotgun or rifle is the distance between the extreme ends of the weapon measured along a line parallel to the center line of the bore.

27 CFR 479.11

 

[blo0dyhatchet]

Thats how I measured. I will post some pics to verify.

 

[jrfoxx]

I thought that pistol grip only, non-handguns were AOW's. Does that rule only apply to shotguns? I kinda like the looks of that.As cheap as SKS's are, might be kinda neat to make my own short PGO sks like that.Kinda reads like it DOES only apply to shotguns, but I thought there was some no-no about PGO rifles, which is why I cant picture having seen any others.Could it be that it kinda becomes a pistol with no stock? does that mean you cant put a stock back on becasue of the whole "its a pistol now, and pistols cant have a shoulder stock" thing. Man, all these barrel lenght grip type and/or location, NFA, etc laws are just REALLY confusing, and seem to have followed no logic at all whatsoever......

26 USC 5845(e) Any other weapon

The term “any other weapon” means any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition.

 

[wdlsguy]

I'm pretty sure a pistol grip only (PGO) SKS would be considered a "weapon made from a rifle". A weapon made from a rifle with an overall length of 26" is on the hairy edge of short-barreled rifle territory.