Small Game Hunting While Big Game Hunting
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" ....A .22 pistol with a quick detach suppressor would be just the ticket...."
I believe Arizona does not allow suppressors for hunting. Nor does Wyoming, I think most states do not allow them for hunting. Too bad, as it would be nice to not worry about hearing loss when hunting. I use plugs even for the shot when hunting because of previous hearing damage and not wanting to make it any worse. (Please lets not get started on the "you don't hear the shot when hunting...." I hear the shot, and have lost hearing when hunting without protection, I won't do it again)
Suppressors are more common in europe for hunting and general shooting. It's considered rude in some countries to make all that noise.
I believe Arizona does not allow suppressors for hunting. Nor does Wyoming, I think most states do not allow them for hunting. Too bad, as it would be nice to not worry about hearing loss when hunting. I use plugs even for the shot when hunting because of previous hearing damage and not wanting to make it any worse. (Please lets not get started on the "you don't hear the shot when hunting...." I hear the shot, and have lost hearing when hunting without protection, I won't do it again)
Suppressors are more common in europe for hunting and general shooting. It's considered rude in some countries to make all that noise.
sumpnz
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That is correct. Hence my wistful dreaming.
I've shot at least two deer within 20 minutes of having shot another deer in the exact same spot with a high-powered rifle. (one was with a .257 Roberts, the other with a .300 Win Mag) The .257 Roberts deer was most impressive. I shot a doe out of a group of deer in a winter wheat field. My shot went slightly high, and hit the spine. She went down, kicked, and gave a long, terrible bleat before succombing. I thought "Well, that's the last deer I'll see in this region for the next week." As I sat there waiting the requisite 20 minutes, I saw a small buck come out of the brush where the other deer had run. He went over to the now-dead doe, and began to lick blood from the entrance hole. He then stood between her legs, cropping at the low wheat buds. I was astounded. Then, from the other direction came a nice 8 point that I finally shot.
If those HP rifle shots didn't scare off the game, I can't believe that a couple of .22 shots to a rabbit or two would make much difference.
If those HP rifle shots didn't scare off the game, I can't believe that a couple of .22 shots to a rabbit or two would make much difference.
tuna
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"When deer hunting with 12 gage I usually carry 2-4 # 6's in case I ran into ducks or something else that seemed like a better opportunity than deer hunting." - posted by Scotjute
Scotjute - be careful doing that, I think that carrying your slugs while taking ducks would wind up putting you in the category of using lead for waterfowl. I may be wrong on this, but I think having the lead rounds in possession is illegal, someone please tell me if I'm wrong. That is the reason that I only carry steel shot when after pheasant if I think that there is a chance of taking a duck.
Why is everyone so against skunks and coyotes? OK, coyotes I can maybe see if you're in an area where they are doing damage to livestock, but here in Mass, I don't see too much of a problem with them. Sure, they come close to town, but so do deer and no one complains about them, and I'd rather watch a coyote than a deer any day. Most of the areas that are reporting coyote problems are areas where they have not allowed hunting for years, so I have no sympathy - keep your dogs, kids and cats in the house and live with the mess you made. For this reason, I try to avoid shooting coyotes.
As far as skunks, what is the problem? I've got a bunch in my neighborhood, that I enjoy watching. I find them pretty cool. Granted, I don't want to be sprayed, but usually they run away from me in the woods, so why shoot them?
No, I'm not against hunting at all, I just wonder why everyone hates coyotes and skunks. Is it because they aren't "cute"? I find deer to be pretty useless except as dinner, but I guess I'm in the minority.
Scotjute - be careful doing that, I think that carrying your slugs while taking ducks would wind up putting you in the category of using lead for waterfowl. I may be wrong on this, but I think having the lead rounds in possession is illegal, someone please tell me if I'm wrong. That is the reason that I only carry steel shot when after pheasant if I think that there is a chance of taking a duck.
Why is everyone so against skunks and coyotes? OK, coyotes I can maybe see if you're in an area where they are doing damage to livestock, but here in Mass, I don't see too much of a problem with them. Sure, they come close to town, but so do deer and no one complains about them, and I'd rather watch a coyote than a deer any day. Most of the areas that are reporting coyote problems are areas where they have not allowed hunting for years, so I have no sympathy - keep your dogs, kids and cats in the house and live with the mess you made. For this reason, I try to avoid shooting coyotes.
As far as skunks, what is the problem? I've got a bunch in my neighborhood, that I enjoy watching. I find them pretty cool. Granted, I don't want to be sprayed, but usually they run away from me in the woods, so why shoot them?
No, I'm not against hunting at all, I just wonder why everyone hates coyotes and skunks. Is it because they aren't "cute"? I find deer to be pretty useless except as dinner, but I guess I'm in the minority.
Newt
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tuna,
In Arkansas, it is illegal to carry rounds as you discribed. No buck shot for squirrel hunting, no lead shot of any kind duck hunting, etc...
In Arkansas, it is illegal to carry rounds as you discribed. No buck shot for squirrel hunting, no lead shot of any kind duck hunting, etc...
If I'm bowhunting for deer in the fall, I'll shoot a turkey if I see one, because they're in season too (if I don't think a deer is coming soon, that is). But my Taurus 94 9-shot .22 is loaded with super colibris to quietly dispatch squirrels or tweetie birds that are chirping warnings and scaring off my game. I'll let them go on for a minute or so, but if they insist on trying to drive me out of their tree, I'll take a shot if possible. But generally agree with above poster in that I also just focus focus focus on my quarry at the time. Skunks aren't pests, so I don't shoot them. Coyotes, I never see 'em; not stealthy enough I guess. Sure do hear them though. I think most people (non-farmers) shoot coyotes to keep their deer herd maxed out, since yotes can catch and eat fawns.
scout26
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Where I hunt the farmers/ranchers ask us to take coyotes so they aren't attacking their livestock.
While attending a the Hunter safety ed class with my daughter a couple of years ago, the DNR CPO stated that >90% of skunks in Illinois carry rabies. That's why skunk season in Illinois is 7/365 - trapping, handgun, rifle, and shotgun, no bag limit.
Berek
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Tuna - In NY, you cannot carry both slug and shot. You can't even carry any centerfire rifle during big game season outside of the Adirondacks, Catskills and some counties on the Vermont border. The latter sucks because there is plenty of room to shoot rifle and plenty of hills so rifle hunting is a possibility. The only thing I can think of is the number of citiots that come here with no clue and a gangsta mentality. 
But I digress. You also cannot carry lead shot of any kind while carrying non-toxic shot. Now that I think of it, there are a lot of stupid laws regarding big game season in my area. Maybe I'll go on a crusade. Anyone have a white stallion I could borrow?
Berek
But I digress. You also cannot carry lead shot of any kind while carrying non-toxic shot. Now that I think of it, there are a lot of stupid laws regarding big game season in my area. Maybe I'll go on a crusade. Anyone have a white stallion I could borrow?
Berek
stevelyn
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The area where we moose hunt has a bit of everything and the seasons are open for them during that time except for furbearers. We always take .22s for small critters and shotguns with non-toxic shot since geese and ducks seem to hang out in places meese are found.
We go out specifically for moose, but we're open to engaging targets of opportunity while pursuing the main mission.
We go out specifically for moose, but we're open to engaging targets of opportunity while pursuing the main mission.
Berek
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Correction on earlier post
Ok, as they have passed a new law this week, I have to correct my last statement. Rifle hunting for deer and bear is now allowed in my and a neighboring county. So.... guess where the correction is...
Berek
Ok, as they have passed a new law this week, I have to correct my last statement. Rifle hunting for deer and bear is now allowed in my and a neighboring county. So.... guess where the correction is...
Berek
Byron Quick
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What Matt G posted about killing a deer over a recently killed deer is something that I've done several times. If I have a deer down and the temperature permits...I stay in my stand waiting for the next one.
I killed a coyote one day and stayed in the stand. Twenty minutes later I killed another coyote moving on the same heading as the first about fifty yards further out. Thirty minutes later, I dropped a doe between the two coyotes. The gun's report was fairly loud: .300 WinMag on a rifle with a BOSS.
Antelope and elk might be different. I've never had the opportunity to hunt either. White tail deer are not quite that skittish. Think about it. They'd spend deer season running continuously from the reports of the guns.
It's the same thing with human urine and cigarette smoke. On the farmlands I hunt on...the deer can't go anywhere without smelling cigaretter smoke and human urine. They smell both all the time, all year round, from birth. They're used to it and don't pay any attention to it.
If you're hunting in a rugged wilderness where people are actually rare most of the year then the caveats about cigarette smoke, human waste, noise, etc. might hold true. Deer in farmland are used to such. If they alerted to it and ran away each and every time...they'd run themselves to death.
I killed a coyote one day and stayed in the stand. Twenty minutes later I killed another coyote moving on the same heading as the first about fifty yards further out. Thirty minutes later, I dropped a doe between the two coyotes. The gun's report was fairly loud: .300 WinMag on a rifle with a BOSS.
Antelope and elk might be different. I've never had the opportunity to hunt either. White tail deer are not quite that skittish. Think about it. They'd spend deer season running continuously from the reports of the guns.
It's the same thing with human urine and cigarette smoke. On the farmlands I hunt on...the deer can't go anywhere without smelling cigaretter smoke and human urine. They smell both all the time, all year round, from birth. They're used to it and don't pay any attention to it.
If you're hunting in a rugged wilderness where people are actually rare most of the year then the caveats about cigarette smoke, human waste, noise, etc. might hold true. Deer in farmland are used to such. If they alerted to it and ran away each and every time...they'd run themselves to death.
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