Small primer for 45 acp brass?

[solman]

I have a batch of Blazer 45 acp brass which for some reason they decided to use the small pistol primer. Is anybody out there reloading these? How does it work out?
I was using the automatic case feeder on my Dillon 550 a while ago never realizing that some brass today is small primer. It creates havoc when using the brass feeder. One more thing to check now when reloading these.

 

[Laphroaig]

I got some range pickups recently that had about 40 of those. I loaded them and shot them indoors at 50 feet. I couldn't see any difference. I'm scrapping them though. Too much trouble to keep them separate.

Laphroaig

 

[germ]

I'm pretty sure there are folks who would swap with you or buy your small primer brass. Some prefer them because it allows them to stock up on small primers only. Another way to look at it is that it gives you an alternative if you can't get hold of any large primers, an important point these days.

 

[Schwing]

These will work just as well as the large primer pocket cases. These have become common enough that I inspect all of my brass when clean it and sort it into separate containers.

 

[jcwit]

The manufactures have been doing this for the last couple years now.

Save them, never know when you might need them.

 

[JRH6856]

I'm pretty sure there are folks who would swap with you or buy your small primer brass. Some prefer them because it allows them to stock up on small primers only.

I'll do that swap if anyone has SP .45ACP brass they don't want. PM me.

 

[jmorris]

They have been around for years. I got tired of sorting them and cobbled up a device that sorts them out while I am loading, before seating a primer.

http://s664.photobucket.com/user/qvideo/media/VID_20131019_144919_066_zps63db164a.mp4.html

 

[BYJO4]

You can use the same data for large or small primer 45 ACP brass. The important thing is not to mix the types together when reloading. I usually find someone to trade my small primer brass to for large primer. On a progressive, it can sure mess you up trying to load the wrong size primer.

 

[LAGS]

I seperate the cases with Small primer pockets, and load them seperatly.
Then those cases become my " Go out to the desert Blasting Ammo" where I have a bigger chance of loosing my casings.

 

[sexybeast]

I load them up too. I use whatever primers I want to get rid of, usually Wolf as they are shot in a hammer fired 1911. No issues loading them. Nice to be able to use small or large primers, which ever i have the most of. Same load and everything else. Some will say you have to load different but thats not what I experienced.

 

[Khaot1c]

I'm up to about 150 or so in my collection. Blazer, Federal, and Fiocchi with Blazer taking the lead. Most once fired I"m sure. All range pickups. It does add some extra time after tumbling to go through the mix and sort them out.

I find myself sorting out MilSurp 9mm cases thanks to the crimped primers.

I just dedicate a few select Times of the Month to go out to the shop for some "quiet time" and do a bunch of case prep.

 

[luzyfuerza]

Like LAGS, I use my .45 cases with small primers on days when I shoot in the snow, or at a range that doesn't allow you to pick up your own brass.

After all these years of always thinking about where every case is going, it is kind of liberating to not worry about where brass lands!

 

[mbopp]

I've found SP cases to be a touch more accurate in my 1911 than LP ones. It may be because the SP primers have less brisance (not has "hot") as a LP primer.

 

[Miata Mike]

Using a progressive press for .45acp is now a pain unless I hand prime all of my brass ahead of time. I guess it gives me a good chance to inspect the cases and sort out the small primer ones.

I have yet to shoot at a range that doesn't let you pick up your own brass, but if I ever do this is what I will be shooting. I have 3 or 4 hundred loaded up with 230 grain lead just to further keep them separate.

 

[JRH6856]

Generally, factory .45ACP with small primers are "green" meaning they use a lead-free priming mixture. The factory ammo with LP are still using lead compounds. "Green" primer technology is still evolving and performance can be inconsistent resulting in poor accuracy. Most reloaders do not use green primers for this reasons and they are often more expensive when they can be found. There are some indoor ranges that only allow the use of lead-free primers, and they generally do not allow the use ro reloaded ammo.

I like the SP .45 brass. Every pistol caliber I reload uses SP except .45ACP, so I usually have a lot more SP on hand than LP. Just makes life a little easier.

 

[germ]

...I like the SP .45 brass. Every pistol caliber I reload uses SP except .45ACP, so I usually have a lot more SP on hand than LP. Just makes life a little easier.

This also means you don't have to bother switching over any progressive press priming apparatus.

 

[arspeukinen]

Small primer .45 works, is nice if you also load 9mm (no need to change priming parts)... but you also get an IPSC PF drop of about 20. Slower ignition of powder.
Ammo that is otherwise identical and measures PF 170 with large primer is PF 151 with small primer, in the same gun.

 

[JRH6856]

So don't use the same load. I don't. I don't even use the same load with different brands of primers of the same size.

 

[gamestalker]

I trade them for other brass, powders, and primers.

GS

 

[john wall]

I prefer the SP brass, can tell the difference in my Bullseye guns.

 

[Scimmia]

Generally, factory .45ACP with small primers are "green" meaning they use a lead-free priming mixture. The factory ammo with LP are still using lead compounds.

This was true at the very beginning, it's not now. The majority of SPP 45 brass is not from NT ammo.

 

[Rugerspyderon]

Federal uses small for many 45 acp rounds

 

[NeuseRvrRat]

i like the small primer .45 ACP brass. i load .45 ACP, .223, and 9mm on my Dillon 550, so if i use SP .45, i never have to swap the priming assembly.

 

[leefan]

The wave of the future. All Blazer Brass is small primer.

 

[JRH6856]

The wave of the future. All Blazer Brass is small primer.

The last time I was at the range, the guy next to me was shooting Blazers and didn't pick up his brass. Most of it went in front of the bench and was unreachable (indoor range) but I managed to pick up about 20 of his cases. 7 Blazer cases were large primers. The rest were small primer.