I was looking at a new 4" 617 in the last week or so. Really a nice revolver!! I have wanted one, but I really don't need it as I have a number of 22 revolvers (M17's, M18, Colts, Ruger etc.). So, I kept my money in my pocket. The one I want is a 3" M63 now. I would make some effort to purchase it where as the 617 other than round count, is similar to what I already have.