Comrade Mike
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Pythons wouldn't either if they were still made. What's your point? And out of production gun in new condition is going to be more expensive than a current production gun?
Smith 686 PC vs Colt Python
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Pythons wouldn't either if they were still made. What's your point? And out of production gun in new condition is going to be more expensive than a current production gun?
HankB
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Which is better?
S&W revolvers were/are the overwhelming choice of competitive revolver shooters, including top tier competitors who'd buy whatever revolver gave them an advantage, regardless of cost.
Case closed.
S&W revolvers were/are the overwhelming choice of competitive revolver shooters, including top tier competitors who'd buy whatever revolver gave them an advantage, regardless of cost.
Case closed.
If you gave me a Colt, I wouldn't be upset. If you gave me a Smith, I wouldn't be upset.
In the real world where I have to pay for the firearm, I'll take a safe full of Smith's over a single Python. Nothing against the Python, but when I can get equally effective options that are gently used in the $400-$600 range, I simply couldn't justify paying for a Python as anything other than an art piece or investment. Ironically, I find the Python as a rather poor investment and not an exceptionally beautiful art piece.
In the real world where I have to pay for the firearm, I'll take a safe full of Smith's over a single Python. Nothing against the Python, but when I can get equally effective options that are gently used in the $400-$600 range, I simply couldn't justify paying for a Python as anything other than an art piece or investment. Ironically, I find the Python as a rather poor investment and not an exceptionally beautiful art piece.
The market says Pythons are better, according to price. The 686 is a fine gun, but no Python.
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So is a genuine colt patterson better than a Python? It certainly is more expensive
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If you apply that line of reasoning to the mechanical reliability and capability of various automobile brands you will quickly discover that price does not equate to what is better. Python prices have nothing to do with what is better in regard to reliability and capability.
Did the OP ever say what Dash model 686 he had.??
Lots of changes in the 686 no dash to whatever dash they are on now. Not much "hand fitting these days) CNC and MIM parts.
I have owned both. I sold the Python as it was Nickel and I really do not care for Nickel guns.
I can get any/all my Smiths repaired free (if needed) or parts at the factory, not so with Colt. I can work on my Smiths easier than on a Colt.
The Python is beautiful if I had a blued or stainless I would not have sold it,
The trigger coil spring is a really smooth.
Lots of changes in the 686 no dash to whatever dash they are on now. Not much "hand fitting these days) CNC and MIM parts.
I have owned both. I sold the Python as it was Nickel and I really do not care for Nickel guns.
I can get any/all my Smiths repaired free (if needed) or parts at the factory, not so with Colt. I can work on my Smiths easier than on a Colt.
The Python is beautiful if I had a blued or stainless I would not have sold it,
The trigger coil spring is a really smooth.
Reliability and capability are only two categories, finish and accuracy are two others.
You're kind of moving the goalposts bringing up an example that people for the most part don't shoot or use for home defense.
I like both and have owned both. Sold the Python because I also have a Colt .357, the Python's predecessor and it just feels more "Colt-ish" than a Python:
My favorite 686 derivative is the CS-1. Mine has a 3" barrel:
If I could only have one, it would be the 686, pre-lock and forged. Mostly because it is so difficult to get service on a Colt nowadays (it takes a trip back to Colt). Thankfully, I don't have to choose and can own both if I want.
My favorite 686 derivative is the CS-1. Mine has a 3" barrel:
If I could only have one, it would be the 686, pre-lock and forged. Mostly because it is so difficult to get service on a Colt nowadays (it takes a trip back to Colt). Thankfully, I don't have to choose and can own both if I want.
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Lucky Derby
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clang: I did the same. I had a Trooper .357 & a Python. Shot them both side by side. Really could not tell a difference. Sold the Python, bought a second Trooper and pocketed $1000.
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I'll take the Harrington & Richardson Model 732.
Blued steel, pinned & recessed. What's not to like?
Best of all I can sell the Python or the PC 686, and buy, like, TEN of them, and have money left over to buy ammo, a reloading press, and a cool custom holster.
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owned many of both and I am hardly delusional.
owned many of both and I am hardly delusional.
It is quite fair to compare a Python to a 686 or other L Frame S&Ws. Why?
- Because they are very similar in size, fire the same cartridge and were designed for similar tasks.
Just because the Python was discontinued because it became too expensive to produce anymore doesn't mean we can't compare it to a S&W. A Trooper Mk III/V or a King Cobra or even a Ruger GP100 would also make a good comparison. And this is a discussion board, so we discuss things like this here.
- Because they are very similar in size, fire the same cartridge and were designed for similar tasks.
Just because the Python was discontinued because it became too expensive to produce anymore doesn't mean we can't compare it to a S&W. A Trooper Mk III/V or a King Cobra or even a Ruger GP100 would also make a good comparison. And this is a discussion board, so we discuss things like this here.
Reloadron
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I agree and actually find the thread humorous. The original poster started this thread with the following post:
Rather than discussion looking for the good and bad in each revolver the OP simply tossed a grenade in the room and has yet to add a single comment since starting the thread. Sort of humorous that the OP is likely sitting back enjoying the show. So I wonder if his intent was to start a discussion thread or simply play advocate to a flame war, you know, like trolls do?
The way to start a discussion is not to start with my gun is better than your gun. Sort of immature and childish.
While I don't own a 686 I do have a 586 and it is, in my opinion, a fine revolver. That said I also have a S&W Model 27 I would choose hands down over the 586. I also have a nice old Colt Python as well as a Trooper and they are both in my opinion fine revolvers.
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The OP has not been back here, but he has been posting about problems with his PC on another thread he started.
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No accuracy falls within the capability category. No disputing the finish on Pythons is almost unparalleled, but that is purely of aesthetic value and most people using revolvers are much more concerned with reliability and capability and that is where the Python falls short of the Smith. I have seen some awesome shooting done with a Python but I have also seen many a Python shooter have reliability problems far more frequently than the Smith shooters. Back in the 1970s and 1980s Pythons were much more commonly used in IPSC than today. Pythons can be very accurate but that can be matched by other DA revolvers.
Reloadron
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Yeah, he has been active, just not here. I would think he would be defending his initial post? Not that it matters much. All revolvers are good, some are just more gooder than others.
I believe that covers it.Ron
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PistolPete45
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Python is the better gun . Smiths are good quality guns but but comparing it with a Python no cigar there.. just the way it is chief I love revolvers wish I had more Smiths .. Would never trade my Python for a Smith never trade my Anaconda for a Smith either ,,
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