Smith & Wesson's M&P: what do yall think?

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Hello Everyone,

I am a new member and wanted to ask for some advice. :D

I have been considering buying a new pistol for sometime now and lately I have been eyeballing the S&W M&P. I am wanting input from people who own the pistol and what caliber they prefer. I have always been a big fan of .45 but I am also wanting something that my wife can handle, so I am probably going to end up with a .40 or 9mm.

What do yall think of the M&P in general. Pros and cons welcome and please be brutally honest (I am sure you would be any way). I dont have alot of money to toss around and dont get a new gun very often and I like to research my options fully before dropping $600.
 
I have a Plastic M&P and think it is a good shooter. I prefer it to the various other copguns on the market.
That is after a trigger job by Dan Burwell. Stock Plastic M&Ps tend toward gritty triggers, more so than Glock or XD. Somebody will come along to say they "break in." OK, but I am not that patient.

Mine is a 9mm. I leave the .45 to 1911s and do not want a .40 at all.
No doubt somebody will come along to say how fine the gun is in other calibers.
 
I love mine. had about a 200 round breakin period with a couple of little problems, but they worked out. the trigger has gotten better, and I have had 0 problems since the break-in. I have the 9mm.
I'm kind of tossing around the idea of getting a .45 compact.
 
M&P 9mm

I have the 9mm and selected it for the same reasons you are describing. I would prefer 45 or 40, but wanted it primarily for my wife to shoot. First, the gun is first rate. Shoots as accurately as I do from 25 feet (see attached, and yes that is an archery target).

About 500 rounds through with no FTF or FTE, and I've been shooting MagTech and UltraMax (not exactly top end). The 9mm recoil is very tame. It's easy to clean and comfortable to hold. I'm quite pleased and so is my wife. Sighting is point of aim, and I didn't adjust it at all.

If stopping power is your concern, I am a believer that today's 9mm ammo is more than up to the task. Combine that with the fact that my wife has 17 plus one in the pipe and I'm pretty confident she can stop the bad guy.

They even have the foofy pink model now. :eek:)

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I have both the M&P9 and the M&Pc9.

Honestly, the M&P9 is THE softest shooting service semi-auto that I've ever felt. I'm not exaggerating. It's really that good. I have 500 flawless rounds through mine including 50 of Speer Gold Dot.

It's a damned fine gun. Accurate as all get-out, and points very naturally. I really can't say enough good things about them.

By the way, if you're dropping $600, you're overpaying. You ought to be able to find one for $100 less very easily.
 
You should probably go with the 9mm. The gun was designed around the 40, so it's percieved recoil is a lot more tame than other plastic 40's, but it's still snappy and gets even more so in one-hand shooting. I have an earlier model 40, and it's functioning fine and will feed anything. Yes, the triggers start out gritty. Give it 300 rounds and the grit will be gone.

As stated bove, you can ship it off to Dan Burwell and get a basic trigger job (as well as many other options), and you'll love it. Dan has even dumped his custom 1911 work to focus entirely on M&P's, so you know he's in demand. It might take a few weeks, but it'll be worth it.

I'm sure someone will be along shortly to say how the M&P's suck and you should get a Glock, but myself and many more would tell you otherwise, many of whom are people who traded their Glocks for an M&P. :D
 
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to say how the M&P's suck and you should get a Glock, but myself and many more would tell you otherwise, many of whom are people who traded their Glocks for an M&P.

I have yet to shoot a glock that I like. I have shot many variations and havent been impressed with them. That is one reason I have moved toward the M&P. I am sure that someone will also try to point me towards a Springfield XD, I tried them and liked them but for some reason I keep finding myself drawn toward the M&P. I have yet had the oportunity to shoot an M&P but I have several friends that love them. One friend even got one of the 1st gen .45s and loves it.

I mainly want the M&P for self defense/Home defense but also want it to be a decent range gun, so I am probably looking at the full size 9mm so that my wife can have as much fun with it as I will at the range as well as her being able to feel safe at home when I am away working at differing odd hours.
 
By the way, if you're dropping $600, you're overpaying. You ought to be able to find one for $100 less very easily.

I was including tax and hopefully the price for a laser grip if I can find one at a decent price in my area.

With the laser Grips it will probably be closer to $700 but I believe they are worth it. I am bare sights man my self but technology can give the proper edge in a tight spot sometimes, especially in a dark bedroom.
 
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M&p 45

I have the 45 auto without a thumb or mag safety and no internal lock and I love it. I have a little over 600 rounds through it so far and I have not had any problems, mine is also one of the first run that supposedly had mag problems but not mine.. She also loves to shoot one ragged hole now that I have warmed up to her. I would like them to come out with a 15 round capacity glock 19 sized 9mm because I'm looking at a 19 but really like the M&P's but not the compact they have now. I am a Glock guy too but I already have 2 glocks,(G22 & G27), and would like to add an M&P 9mm to the family.

Oh, and by the way my 1911 doesn't mind that I got another 45 auto they shoot nicely together.
 
I have multiple full size M&Ps in 9mm, 40S&W, and 45ACP, and a Compact in 9mm.

I do not care for the balance of the Compacts much, but I love the full size. They are the only pistols that are in my carry rotation.
 
Glad to see some newer posts on the M&P's. I am contemplating one in the future. I have 2 Glocks, a 17 and new 34. Handled an XD and the grip felt good but the trigger was long and fairly heavy.

Never held an M&P, but I know S&W has excellent customer service. I like the interchangeable backstrap concept too. I like a longer barrel than most and I am very interested in the M&P 9L. Are they available yet?

Is it possible to do an "at home" trigger job on an M&P, kinda' like you can do on a Glock?
 
I have the .40c and love it. The recoil feels less than my G23 and outshoots my Glocks and XD. I am extremely happy with it. I thought the trigger would be an issue at first, but it never has been.
 
All I know, is Guns & Ammo TV has raved about them. But that's no surprise. They look interesting to me, and were I to buy a polymer pistol, I'd look at them first.
 
I don't own a Glock, and I still don't like the M&P :)

I've fired several owned by other shooters. All had long gritty triggers, and exhibited poor accuracy. I prefer the 3rd generation S&W semi autos. I went with the S&W 910, and have not looked back. Good luck with your decision! TJ
 
I was including tax and hopefully the price for a laser grip if I can find one at a decent price in my area.

With the laser Grips it will probably be closer to $700 but I believe they are worth it. I am bare sights man my self but technology can give the proper edge in a tight spot sometimes, especially in a dark bedroom.

Ahhh...then it makes sense. Might I suggest getting a model with night sights then?
 
I like 'em. I own the 9mm version. I have two other .45s that I'll shoot every once and awhile, but as everyone'll tell you: ammo prices, ammo prices, ammo prices. However, noting the quality SD ammo available for the 9mm these days, to me it makes a moot point as long as you practice with what you own and can shoot it well.

Per the M&P, I like the interchangeable grip. Ergos on a poly gun are about as comfortable for me as I have ever found. With that said, as previously noted, gritty trigger. I also own several XDs and the trigger is, to my mind, better out of the box on the XDs. Also, I find the M&Ps reset to be hard to find when compared to the XD. I have shot Glocks, great guns, but the grip and its angle are what turn me off on that particular handgun. But the triggers on the Glocks that I have tried have all been better than the brand spank'n new M&P I own on first use.

The one problem I did have with the M&P when I got mine was a predisposition to pull extracted brass straight up and dump it on my head. I had to send it back to S&W who turned it around within three weeks, were easy to deal with and who even tightened up the mag release and tightened the barrel (at least that was written on the return form). Great customer service if something is a bit awkward with your purchase.

If it proves reliable over a 1,000 rounds or so, then I think I will have another range toy and something I can confidently use in pistol classes and as an SD weapon at home.

So far, really no complaints, except for the out-of-box trigger which should hopefully smooth out in that 1,000 round get-to-know you period. :)
 
I recently picked up a new standard size MP45.

I've only had the time to run a little over 200 rounds of 3 different 230gr JHP loads through it after initially cleaning, inspecting and lubricating it. Someone was liberal with the shipping/packing lubricant when assembling it, but I didn't notice anything unusual or requiring any correction. The barrel feed ramp was nicely smooth on my gun.

No feeding/functioning issues of any sort were experienced during my shooting session. The 3 different hollowpoint designs I was using all fed without a bobble. Didn't matter whether I chambered the first round releasing the slide by depressing the slide stop lever or manually retracting the slide and briskly releasing it. Loading 10 rounds in the new magazines was noticeably difficult ... I decided to only load 9 rounds during the beginning of the shooting session ... but it became a bit easier during the course of the 200+ round familiarization session.

The trigger was a bit heavier than I'd normally prefer, but I've been told they improve with use. (My SW99's did the same thing, FWIW.) It's within 'spec' according to what we were told during the armorer class, albeit on the heavy end of the tolerance range. Of course. It figures. It's the gun that I got. :D

The practical accuracy was really surprising considering the relatively heavy trigger weight. (I've been spoiled by a number of other pistols, though.) At one point I was able to achieve a couple of fairly decent groups of between 5-6 rounds each, shooting 2-handed, unsupported, from 11 yards. One of the groups was pretty much a 'cloverleaf' group, and I was able to cover it with the pad of my thumb. Not too bad (at least for me, with a brand new pistol model). The pistol seems as though it's likely capable of better inherent accuracy than I may be able to wring from it until I become more accustomed to it.

I fired 1 magazine-load with my 'non-dominant' hand (side-stepping the whole 'weak hand' label ;) ) using an unlocked wrist and a less firm grip than I normally use. The pistol functioned normally.

All told, I'm fairly pleased with its initial performance regarding ergonomics, overall balance, accuracy, controllability, the 'liveliness' of its handling when doing some mixed drills and its functioning.

I'll dig around in my ammunition supply and find some other loads to try in it when I get the time.

I think the M&P pistol is the first pistol model which I didn't actually fire until after I'd attended an armorer's class for it. I've usually had the opportunity to do a fair amount of shooting with the various makes/models/platforms of firearms. It's just that whenever T&E or demo M&P pistols have previously been available my work schedule has seemed to get in the way.

So far, so good, though.

I think S&W has done very well with this new design to date, all things considered.

The improperly hardened magazine catches S&W received from a vendor gave them some grief for a bit, and they upped the tension on the slide stop lever spring in the original 9/.40 models (reportedly because of the recoil of the .40 S&W). Some refinements and revisions here and there aren't unexpected, especially on a new design. Glock is still revising and refining parts on its pistols to this day. ;)
 
I was skeptical at first, but I fired a buddies and then bought it off of him. Mine is a .40 S&W full sized. I'll soon get a compact to go with it.

All my handguns but one are in .40 S&W and I will tell you the M&P tames the .40 S&W like no other. It's on par with my Sig P226ST as far as recoil goes.

It's very accurate and it feel great in the hand.
 
I have the M&P compact in .40, and I love it. Fun to shoot, more accurate than I am, and has eaten everything I've put through it.

People will likely light me up like the 4th for this comment, but I had a chance to compare my M&P .40 with a Kimber Carry in .45, and while they are Apples and Oranges, I honestly didn't leave the experience with Kimber envy. I guess I was a little shocked that the Kimber didn't seem to give me a whole lot better experience despite it being almost twice the cost.

FWIW, mine never had a gritty trigger.
 
Wow guys, perfect timing for this thread! It's my first post here as well as my first, soon to be, purchase. I've fired a few guns in the past, albeit quite some time ago, but I've never owned. I had no idea there were SO many options - really makes the head spin! Frame material, frame size, caliber size, different loads and on and on it goes.

Anyway, the .40 S&W has been my primary focus for two reasons: 1) I remember shooting the .40 and it was quite easy to control for me, and 2) I think it'll be something the wife can handle and feel confidant in as well should the need arise, or if her desire to get more involved in shooting increases. I will not get into this caliber vs. that caliber is better as that really comes down to personal preference and ability IMO.

I've been looking at several different models and the M&P has been on the fairly short list, so again, thanks to everyone for posting up their take on things. Keep it coming!

Oh yeah, if there's any Monterey, CA members on here that want to show a newb around and maybe fire off a few rounds, I'd be more than thankful!

Carry on......
 
I had the opportunity to test fire a S&W M&P 45 today. I was considering buying the gun (and haven't made up my mind yet - may still make an offer) and thankfully the owner offered me this chance to try the gun first.

Frankly I found I really like the ergonomics and most of the controls. Accuracy was just fine, with nothing out of the ordinary happening, and recoil is what I'd expect from a 45ACP. The trigger in particular was really good, and infinitely better than any Glock or XD I've tried - though I must also add this pistol did have a professional trigger job. I didn't like the manual safety, which is a feature I thought desirable on this model. My grip routinely bumped the safety lever up when loading/reloading - I consider this not good.

On the whole I was impressed with the gun, but would have to remove the manual safety (which I believe is a pretty easy task) to make it work well for me in the long term. As a final note, I think if I had to choose between the S&W M&P, Glock, XD, and H&K, then I'd choose the S&W. Each has good and bad points, but the S&W is a really nice all-around package.
 
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