"SNS" renaming competition

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Entry Level Pistols. It even has a nice acronym: ELP.
Maybe even Entry Level Pocket Pistols; ELPP.

Or how about Working Man Guns-WMGs? That has a nice connotation.

PMDP: Poor Man Defense Pistol. Actually anything with "defense" in it sounds good. Like "assault rifle" became "homeland defense rifle."
 
Those are pretty good, saspic. They drive home the point that these guns are used mainly by folks who can't afford something else. They also differentiate these guns from "crime guns."

This is an important distinction, because "crime guns" are simply guns used by criminals, rather than a class of guns somehow designed for crime. Criminals tend not to be too gun savvy and will use pretty much whatever they can get their hands on. The actual "crime guns" used tracks pretty well with the production numbers of the guns themselves. I remember reading a couple of years back that one of the most popular "crime guns" was the Smith and Wesson k-frame revolver, hardly a "junk gun". However, there are millions of them out there, so they were statistically more likely to be used in crime.

Besides, since when were criminals shopping for "value priced" guns, anyway?

All this reinforces the need for a different way to describe inexpensive pistols.
 
I remember reading a couple of years back that one of the most popular "crime guns" was the Smith and Wesson k-frame revolver, hardly a "junk gun".
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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/guic.htm

That may have been what you read. While the most common guns that the police run a trace on are Lorcins and the like (most likely due to buyback programs), it appears the most common calibers which are used in actual shootings are 9mm, .38, and .357.
 
Thanks for the link, RyanM. Lots of interesting information, including this quote:

"What types of guns do criminals
prefer?
Research by Wright and Rossi in the
1980's found that most criminals prefer
guns that are easily concealable, large
caliber, and well made. Their studies
also found that the handguns used by
the felons interviewed were similar to
the handguns available to the general
public, except that the criminals preferred
larger caliber guns."

Interesting. Also, on page 5, there is the quote about the Smith and Wesson 38 Special revolver (model unspecified) being the most frequently traced crime gun of 1990. There are a lot of Lorcins and Ravens on the top ten "most traced" list of 1994, but, like the Smith revolver, this reflects the number of these guns in circulation.
 
The H### with the PC police It is and always has been in my almost 60 years a SaturdayNightSpecial In my whole life I never heard of the so called raciest version except on internet boards. So it is and will remain in my house or when I speak of such in public.A Satursay Night Special. It time to tell the PC people and we have a few here to stick it you know where. :fire:
 
POS is the best, IMHO.

Actually, given my experience with a Jennings .22 years ago, we should encourage their sales, since the elimination of their users could be a plus!

jamie
 
Why is it called a saturday night special, instead of something like a sunday morning special? Or even a tuesday night special?
 
I avoid any of the terms that the antis use ... every time you use the terms "Assault Rifle", "Saturday Night Special" etc, you give credibility to their side of the argument.


I say Jennings, Raven, HiPoint etc can simply be referred to as POS pistols ... quality "Saturday Night Specials" like Makarovs, Bersas or Stars I simply refer to as "Bargain Pistols".
 
c yeager said: its a phrase that predates most of the gun control movement. If you want to give it to the Brady bunch then thats up to you, but i am not willing to cede language to them just because they want it.
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I agree but I have a slightly different spin on it. The Brady Bunch would like to see the phrase to drop out of common usage because it reminds people that poverty, substance abuse and lack of education cause crime, not guns.
 
Now wait a minute.... "Saturday Night Special" is offensive, but

Ghettoblaster
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is fine? Look, I really don't care what you call them, but if I were to sit and judge, "Ghettoblaster" would be much more offensive than "Saturday Night Special"...........
 
More political thoughts

The term may or may not have racist overtones, but the thought of depriving a certain class or race of people firearms is discrminatory in itself. What if lever action 30-30's came under fire from the brady bunch because only white supremacists own them? Or muzzle loaders because only uneducated hillbillies wo can't be trusted own them? Outlawing SNS's because that's all the poor (apparently they've never heard of poor folks outside the cities) single mom living in HUD housing can afford falls into the same category.

It's all incrementalism. Target one type of arm associated with a particular type of person, then target another when you have disarmed an entire class of people.
 
1911 guy,

you hit the nail on the head, and thats what I found "offensive" about ghettoblaster. Really though, the thing that I hate most about this is that even among gunners, our commonly accepted slang is coming under the guise of political correctness. So, I for one will continue to call them Saturday Night Specials, as I think the term is perfectly fine. If someone is offended by that, well, too bad. I am sick of our country being driven around morally by what offends whom and when. The reactionary part of me wants to say to unbunch your panties and stop crying, America, while the more reasonable portion of me would point out that freedom of speech has no clause dictating that speech is free only when bland and unoffensive.
 
Disadvantaged Defensive Firearm. DDF

Has the connotation that the person using it is disadvantaged and/or the weapon is disadvantage and that it is more likely to be used as a last resort to protect someone rather than gut-shooting a rival.
 
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