U.S. Troops to Liberia?

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I'm thinking we shouldn't go to Liberia. I am starting to think we shoudl pull all our troops out of everywhere, tighten up our borders to the point that they are locked, develop a stellar missle defense system, and say to hell with the rest of the world.
 
I skimmed it just now, will read it later when I get back. I have to go to the gun store today. If I agree with someone from antiwar.com, I am going to be worried, but it looks like I do.
 
I skimmed it just now, will read it later when I get back. I have to go to the gun store today. If I agree with someone from antiwar.com, I am going to be worried, but it looks like I do.

HBK, try to read all points of view on an issue (especially EXTREME views). Set your "BS" meter on MAXIMUM..... then check for truth and accuracy!

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j070703.html

Don
 
This has "VERY BAD IDEA" written all over it.

Putting our boys between two extremely violent, extremely nasty factions? To quote Tom Sizemore's character in Black Hawk Down, "What's not to like?"
 
Liberia is one of the few places in the world as dangerous AND irrelevant as Somalia. I've heard some first hand stories that indicate the only thing they excel at is new and creative means of torture.

If Bush sends US troops there, then I may have to finally conclude that he is irredeemable.

I see from previous posts that the Frogs and Brits have done their part already. So I humbly propose another option for this adventure:

The Germans

They seemed to have had plenty of advice for us regarding the Iraq conflict. Here's a good chance to show us how it's done!

Wake me up when the first panzer division hits the beach in Monrovia.
 
Ignore history doomed to repeat it?

President Bush has war with Iraq, failing economy,commits troops to African hellhole, champions assault weapons ban, loses presidency.


Looks like his son George is doing the same thing....
 
Why Liberia? Why now? The place has been in a state of bloody chaos for more than a decade.

Could it be that the Bush administration needs a distraction?

Weapons of mass destruction, the main reason for going after Saddam Hussein, have not been found. Neither has Hussein been found. Iraq's vast oil fields are not working. The talk from the president - when he's not doing his macho "Bring them on" - is that Americans will be in Iraq for a long and dangerous time.

Not a happy picture.

Imagine how delightful, under the circumstances, it would be to go to a place like Liberia where people are being shown on television pleading for the United States to come and rescue their country. All those happy faces cheerfully welcoming U.S. troops dispatched by President Bush.

Don
 
Bush's first speech in Africa will be on slavery on Goree Island off the coast of Senegal. There, many Africans bound in chains for the New World had their last glimpse of their homeland.



Let's see ..... flight suit aboard the USS Lincoln.

Teddy Roosevelt painting in the background as he gave his tough talk "bring 'em on! speech.

Trying not to be cynical......... but I bet that Duhbya poses before some background theme that glorifies his action in Liberia when he announces that he is sending US troops in!

Don
 
Why Liberia? Why now? The place has been in a state of bloody chaos for more than a decade.

Could it be that the Bush administration needs a distraction?
You have the right view from the wrong end of the telescope.

Item--Bush is running for re-election
Item--Bush is in a "give the Democrats any thing they want to shut 'em up" mode
Item--Democrats have a grand fear the Bush is making inroads into the African-American vote
Item--Bush previously scheduled the African tour long before Liberia heated up.
Item--Democrats figured to wedge African American votes off Bush by demanding US intervention in Liberia.

Conclusion--Bush did it to himself. The smart play would be to cancel the trip until Liberia was resolved. Because he is pandering to domestic voters he is walking eyes wide open into a bear trap.

No sympathy here. He put himself into a position where Democrats can take pot shots at him with no chance for him to return fire. Bad tactical planning and execution.
 
Taylor Escaped from Mass. Jail in 1985







Tuesday, July 08, 2003

BOSTON — Indicted for war crimes, his country torn apart by civil conflict, poised to go into exile — Liberian President Charles Taylor (search) is at the center of a gripping international drama.





But he was once just a young man with an unremarkable name who pumped gas, worked in a plastics factory, and studied at a Massachusetts college.

He also earned a share of notoriety by becoming the only escapee from the Plymouth County (search) jail who wasn't caught.

The Liberian-born Taylor, now 55, spent the 1970s in Boston, earning an economics degree from Bentley College (search) in Waltham in 1977 and working as an activist on Liberian issues.

Delores Adighibe, of Boston, said she lived in the same apartment building as Taylor for about five years in the early 1970s, when both were students at Bentley. She described Taylor as "political and generous."

"He was very big-hearted, very giving, but extremely political and concerned about Liberia," she said. "We were all very active."

Adighibe, who is co-chairman of the Liberian Community Association of Massachusetts, said she has been disappointed with Taylor, though, since he was elected the country's president in 1997.

"I think greed took him ... overpowered him," she said.

She spoke as President Bush, embarking on a five-day tour of Africa, is demanding that Taylor relinquish power.

Mohammed Kromah, 53, of Baltimore, said he remembered Taylor from when the two worked together as activists in the Union of Liberian Associations in the Americas during the 1970s, trying to inform the world of what was happening in Liberia.

Kromah, now president of the organization, said he and many of Taylor's friends are disappointed with Taylor's tenure as president. He was articulate and idealistic during his six years in power, but achieved little, Kromah said.

"There's not a single thing in the country that you can proudly say that 'Mr. Taylor did this,"' he said. "It's a waste, a vacuum, an emptiness in Liberian history."

Taylor, who was raised in a suburb of the Liberian capital of Monrovia, went back to Liberia in 1979 after a regime change. He won a top job in the new government of Samuel Doe, but was charged with embezzling $1 million as head of Liberia's General Services Administration.

Taylor fled to the United States, but he was arrested and incarcerated in the Plymouth County jail.

On Sept. 15, 1985, Taylor cut through bars with a hacksaw and climbed down a knotted sheet to gain his freedom, avoiding extradition and trial in his home country.

Back in Liberia, Taylor led rebels against Doe in a bloody conflict that killed hundreds of thousands in the late '80s. Acknowledged as the country's strongest warlord, he was then elected as president of the country in 1997. But rebels have been fighting for three years to oust him.

Taylor has been indicted by a U.N.-backed war crimes court in Sierra Leone for allegedly supporting rebels in a bloody conflict in that country.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,91301,00.html
 
I must have missed something while I was at the store

When did Bush turn into Bono?

Is it about the African-American votes or is it the MTV votes?
Will someone, anyone, call Karl Rove and please find out?

Bush talked about slavery "over there." He didn't quite apologize
for stuff that happened eight generations ago in the U.S. But
as the Conscience of the World he came damn close. Did he mention
that slavery exists today, right there in Africa?

I also read that Africa needs "infrastructure" (can anyone say
Bechtel?!!!) and "heavy machinery." O-kay. But do we have to
pay for President Wade's presidential yacht too? Dude doesn't
have farm equipment but he's got to put on a good show, I guess,
for visiting dignitaries?

$16 billion for AIDS in Africa and pennies for shoring up our
own borders. Our states are going broke but Bush wants the WTO to
go easy on African debt.

And high blackrobe Stephen Breyer wonders aloud, on tv, how relevant
our Constitution is in an era of globalism and whether it will
fit into the governing documents of other nations? Can anyone spell
IMPEACH?

Oh, whatever...!
 
For those in those $XXXholes (cue Willam Munny music) of their own making, let them drown in their own sewage. Others said it better than me, but colonialism was a blessing compared to the conditions they have created for themselves in the turdworld. :scrutiny:
 
Photo Op?

Gee, only takes a day!

Trying not to be cynical......... but I bet that Duhbya poses before some background theme that glorifies his action in Liberia when he announces that he is sending US troops in!

LOOK AT THE PHOTOS! :eek:

Don
 
I also read that Africa needs "infrastructure" (can anyone say Bechtel)?

Could also be Kellogg, Brown & Root (subsidiary of Halliburton). ;-)

Don
 
Hey people you need to look at ...

an essay by Kim Du Toit (try www.kimdutoit.com) regarding Africa.
According to his essay,

1) He was raised there
2) was able to get the he!! out
3) basically says that ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING that the U.S.
and/or the rest of the world has tried and/or will try will fail. 'cause
ITS ALL BEEN TRIED BEFORE with zero improvement .

Take a look
 
saddenedcitizen, not only will the mission fail....... it will cost US lives!

Don
 
You know what, waitone? The life of even ONE US soldier, sailor, marine, airman is MUCH more important to me than Bush's popularity among black voters!

Don
 
Gun-waving Liberian troops blocked a U.S. military team from entering a refugee camp on Tuesday as President Bush vowed to work with the United Nations and Africans for peace in the country....[snip]"We got turned around. The military turned us around," a U.S. embassy official told Reuters. "I don't know why."

Um....becuase it's a foreign military invasion? Hell if the Liberians came steaming up Newport Bay ya damn right I'd turn 'em around! Duhhhh.....
 
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