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U.S. Troops to Liberia?
By Nancy Palus
Posted Friday, June 27, 2003, at 10:38 AM PT


"We saw hell in Liberia," a Nigerian who recently escaped fresh fighting in the war-ravaged country told Lagos' Vanguard newspaper. The papers say the latest surge of violence between rebels and the government around Liberia's capital, Monrovia—inevitably also striking civilians—is fueling calls for U.S. intervention.


A peace accord signed by rebels and the government of Liberian President Charles Taylor in Ghana last week called for a national unity government—sans Taylor—to be formed within a month. Days after signing the deal, Taylor reneged, refusing to step aside. Fighting erupted anew, and rebels say they will not stop until they have seized the capital and ousted Taylor. Taylor was elected president in 1997, after an eight-year civil war he had launched. Anti-Taylor rebel movements, linked to conflicts the president is alleged to have fomented in neighboring Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast, began about three years ago. Rebels are now said to control about two-thirds of the country.

In recent days, rebels closed in on Monrovia, foreigners fled the capital, and hundreds of civilians died—including several June 25, when explosives struck a U.S. Embassy annex where refugees were seeking haven. This is the closest rebel groups have come to taking the capital. Britain's Daily Telegraph said, "The advance marks the greatest crisis Taylor has faced since he rose to power as a warlord 13 years ago." Taylor, known for his support of brutal rebel movements throughout the region—including alleged guns-for-diamonds trading—and his brazen defiance in the face of U.N. sanctions and sweeping international condemnation, now also faces war crimes charges presented June 4 by a U.N. special court in neighboring Sierra Leone.

The humanitarian crisis stemming from Liberia's conflicts is one of the worst on the continent. The latest violence—reportedly penetrating many refugee shelters—has put already desperate civilians in horrific conditions with nowhere to run. With the recent outbreak of fighting, the Telegraph reported, "Thousands fled their homes and thousands more who had already travelled to Monrovia to seek safety, packed their bags again in terror."

President Bush, who is scheduled to travel to Africa next month, said Thursday that Taylor must step down and vowed U.S. support for peace efforts in the country. But the United States has yet to commit to any action on the ground, as called for by people who draw comparisons to the considerable British role in Sierra Leone and France's intervention in its former colony, Ivory Coast. (Liberia was founded by freed U.S. slaves.) Several papers reported that Britain's U.N. ambassador, Jeremy Greenstock, called the United States "the natural candidate" to intervene. The Telegraph went as far as to say a U.S.-led force "looked likely" after Bush's remarks. The paper concluded, "It is unlikely that Sir Jeremy would have floated the idea of a US-led force without first having at least tacit approval from the Bush administration."

The Financial Times observed, "The chaos in Monrovia showed up the fragility of the ceasefire in the absence of an outside peacekeeping force." An op-ed in the New Democrat, a paper published in the Netherlands by Liberian exiles, called Taylor a "serial liar" and a "psychopath," declaring, "A force empowered to arrest the fugitive [Taylor] would do a service to humanity."

On Thursday, Liberian civilians mounted their own stark appeal for U.S. action. Britain's Guardian reported that Liberians marched on the U.S. Embassy, depositing at its gates seven corpses—among the more than 300 killed in this week's violence.

Papers in the region said an African solution to the Liberian crisis is crucial to the continent's progress away from war and toward development. An op-ed in Nigeria's This Day said it is "high time" Africa established a process for preventing and resolving conflicts. "Liberia offers the best opportunity for African leaders to show their skills and commitment in uplifting the African continent." Notre Voie, the paper of Ivory Coast's ruling party, said the continent's future stability depends on it. African leaders must "show themselves to be firm and unified to avoid rebellions destabilizing other African states tomorrow." The Ivorian paper echoed widely held anxiety over the effectiveness of the Economic Community of West African States, which brokered the latest cease-fire accord. "In failing, ECOWAS would show once again its incapacity to resolve crises in the sub-region. … The problem of ECOWAS is its lack of political will." A U.N. Security Council delegation set off Thursday on a mission to West Africa, partly in an effort to stem the violence in Liberia. The mission—which is to meet with several members of ECOWAS—is likely to press Taylor to step down.

A recent op-ed in Johannesburg's Mail & Guardian said impunity for leaders such as Taylor—who "have shattered the social cohesion of the continent and entrenched poverty"—must end. The op-ed said that although the timing of the recent war crimes indictment was wrong—coming as it did during the delicate time of peace talks in Accra—it was "the right thing to do. … Africa needs to confront the bald fact that the absence of accountability has for too long stood between the continent and real progress."

An editorial in the Financial Times conceded that peace and stability are not automatically assured in a post-Taylor Liberia, noting that the rebels trying to oust him themselves "have a murky agenda" and an abysmal human rights record. "A longer-term and wider strategy for the region is needed," the paper said. "As in Iraq, the removal of an undesirable leader is one thing, a plan for the future quite another. Mr. Taylor's departure would not be a solution. But it would be a start."
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...er27.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/06/27/ixworld.html


Bush threatens to pacify Liberia
By Tim Butcher, Africa Correspondent
(Filed: 27/06/2003)


An American military operation to restore order in Liberia looked likely last night as President George W Bush called for peace in the war-torn West African republic.

He drew cheers and applause from an audience of businessmen, academics and African leaders when he called on Liberia's President Charles Taylor, an indicted war criminal, to stand down.

"President Taylor needs to step down so that his country can be spared further bloodshed," he said.

Earlier, British diplomats raised the possibility of an American military operation with Sir Jeremy Greenstock, Britain's UN ambassador, saying that America would be the "natural candidate" for any Western-run operation in Liberia.

Mr Bush called for all sides in Liberia's bloody civil war to return to the negotiating table and to end a series of clashes that have cost thousands of civilian lives, including 300 in the capital, Monrovia, this week.

He spoke as the Liberian government claimed it had driven the rebels from the port area, a few miles from the heart of the capital, that they had occupied on Wednesday.

With a US Navy amphibious assault ship, the USS Kearsarge, just off the Liberian coast carrying 1,200 marines, Mr Bush has the option of ordering a significant deployment to one of Africa's most chaotic countries.

Liberia has close historic and traditional links with America. It was founded in the early 19th century as Africa's first republic by freed slaves from the United States.

For an intervention force, Sir Jeremy said, the United States is "the nation that everyone would think would be the natural candidate".

"I think that outside help of that kind at the present juncture, or ready to move when there is an agreement to stop fighting, an agreement that would need to be policed and observed, would look very constructive," he said.

"If there were a lead nation that was prepared to take action in Liberia, then I think that would be very broadly welcomed internationally. But we are not there yet."

It is unlikely that Sir Jeremy would have floated the idea of a US-led force without first having at least tacit approval from the Bush administration.

If America does send troops to Liberia, it will create a diplomatic symmetry in West Africa, matching Britain's deployment to Sierra Leone dating from 2000 and France's Ivory Coast operation since last year.

For the civilian population of Liberia, living in wretched conditions as one of Africa's poorest countries is again riven by heavy fighting, any peacekeeping deployment could not come fast enough.

Last week almost every civilian spoken to in a straw poll in Monrovia begged for military assistance from America to help break the cycle of violence. "We need the Americans to help us. They must come, it is our only hope," said Fatima Harrison, an elderly lady in an overcrowded slum in the centre of Monrovia.

Hopes were raised when the Kearsarge appeared on the horizon off Monrovia but its helicopters flew nothing but food and supplies into the US embassy on the city's Mamba Point promontory.

It echoed the 1990 deployment of US shipborne troops to Monrovia in a rescue operation for US passport holders that fell some way short of a full peacekeeping mission.

Civilians have routinely born the brunt of more than a decade of fighting in Liberia with rival militias killing civilians, raping women and looting property whenever fierce clashes occur.
 
But the questions are:
1.) Will this turn into another Somalia?
2.) Will the world say now "U.S. do something!" and then once we're committed turn around and say "U.S. imperialism!"?
3.) Will the people we go to save turn around and backshoot our troops once they oust the tyrant?


The problem is that since the fall of that nasty evil colonialism in Africa, the whole continent has been embroiled in a succession of dictator-of-the-month clubs and exercises in damming rivers with corpses. So, then, colonialism really wasn't as bad as it is made out to be given the light of the current situation? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

My thinking is that it is not the duty of the U.S. to save the whole Third World from itself. Generally, the U.S. gets a F+ on its report card by the UNcle of the world (who see standing and watching from afar Rwanda do its best Pol Pot imitation as infintely preferable to having to be there to physically stand aside and let genocide happen as UNcle peacekeepers did in Bosnia a few times) for it effors in helping people not kill each other. U.S. efforts are seen as "imperialism". So, unless we are directly threatened, to hell with it. It's not worth it. If someone wants to play world social worker, let them volunteer to go over there and do it with their own family, not those who signed up to defend America. This has nothing to do with us. It's time for the Third World to make a choice: You either be totally free and/or soveriegn and take what goes with that to include civil war, famine, etc, etc and you hash it out on your own and settle your own problems and feed your own people. OR---You become a subject of neo-colonial policy and you shut up and like it. As far as I'm concerned, what's in it for us? I want a decent return on my invested tax dollar. Africa grows pretty decent tobacco and coffee and, to me, there's a fair exchange for security and protection.
 
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3006215

Pressure Grows for Foreign Intervention in Liberia
Sat June 28, 2003 03:36 PM ET


By David Clarke
MONROVIA (Reuters) - Liberia said Saturday it was in talks with foreign countries to send a force to stop fighting that has left hundreds dead, as U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan joined calls for urgent intervention.

Pressure has grown on the United States to lead a multinational force after the second bloody rebel assault within 10 days on the capital, Monrovia.

They are fighting to oust President Charles Taylor, a former warlord wanted for war crimes by an international court.

Liberia's government said talks on a force had already begun with the United States and West African countries.

Taylor, who was told to step down this week by President Bush, said Liberia would not hesitate to invite in American troops to bring calm.

"This government is interested in working with Washington on resolving this problem in the continued promotion of democracy," he told reporters.

Annan said in a letter to the U.N. Security Council that it should meet immediately to agree on intervention.

"We cannot be oblivious to the warning signs of an imminent possible catastrophe," said a Annan, a Ghanaian, whose West African home region has been poisoned by Liberia's strife.

Most eyes in Liberia turn to the United States because of its historical links with a country founded more than 150 years ago by freed slaves trying to establish a haven of liberty.

But so far, U.S. officials have said there is no plan to send peacekeepers.

French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin said a U.S. lead was natural given that France was helping end civil war in Ivory Coast and Britain had played a big role in Sierra Leone.

Both those wars were offshoots of violence that has wracked Liberia for nearly 14 years, turning it into a breeding ground for armed, drugged-up youngsters with no qualms about murder, rape or pillage.

Taylor started Liberia's cycle of blood-letting in 1989 in a war to overthrow a brutal dictatorship. He was elected in 1997 after emerging as the dominant faction leader.

FEARS OF NEW BATTLE

Taylor's commanders said they would silence their guns on Friday after the rebels ordered a cease-fire, but fighters sped out of Monrovia toward the front Saturday and piled sandbags on a key bridge to prepare for any future attack.

In the city, thousands of residents trooped back to their homes after four days trapped by fighting, some to collect their belongings and flee, others to pick up the pieces of their lives knowing they could well be caught in another battle soon.

Authorities say at least 300 were killed in the worst bloodshed Monrovia has seen since the mid-1990s.

Negotiations in Ghana were adjourned for a week Friday, although both sides said they were committed to talks they began after a cease-fire last week that never really took hold.

Regional diplomats say there is talk Nigeria might send soldiers to Liberia, as it did during the civil war in the 1990s. That West African force failed to prevent some of the bloodiest episodes of a war that left 200,000 dead.

But for many Liberians, only the Americans could do the job.

Bands chanting "We want peace, no more war" marched to the U.S. embassy for the third day running to call for intervention from a country seen by many as the historic motherland.

"George Bush is the president of the whole world and everyone knows that," said Martin Luther Wesseh, demonstrating outside the U.S. mission. "America owns Liberia. That is a fact. We learned it in school." (Additional reporting by Alphonso Toweh in Monrovia, Anne Boher in Accra, Robert Evans in Geneva)

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Annan Calls for Multinational Force for Liberia
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3006205

Annan Calls for Multinational Force for Liberia
Sat June 28, 2003 03:31 PM ET




By Robert Evans
GENEVA (Reuters) - United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan called on Saturday for the urgent dispatch of a multinational force to Liberia to halt fighting between government and rebel forces that has killed hundreds.

Annan's appeal came in a letter to the U.N. Security Council and was clearly aimed at stepping up pressure on the United States, which has close links to the west African country, to act to help end the chaos there.

The U.N. chief, on a visit to Geneva, said the council should meet immediately to agree on intervention "to prevent a major humanitarian tragedy and to stabilize the situation in the country."

So far, the Bush administration has not decided on sending any force, although the issue is under discussion. Britain's U.N. ambassador, Sir Jeremy Greenstock, last week publicly urged the United States to lead a multinational force.

"There are at least talks of further intervention, whether that's necessary or appropriate. I don't know at this point," State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said on Friday.

Other U.N. sources said Washington was seeking evacuation of 50 American and European citizens from Liberia and had asked the U.N. operation in neighboring Sierra Leone whether it could send helicopters. The United Nations, however, said it would first have to check whether Russia would accompany any evacuation with helicopter gunships, also based in Sierra Leone, the sources said.

Meanwhile, Liberia's government said it was talking to foreign countries, including the United States, on deploying a force to stop the fighting.

Annan's call and Liberia's announcement came amid an on-off cease-fire between government and rebels who control most of the country and are seeking to overthrow President Charles Taylor.

A sudden offensive earlier this week brought the rebels close to capturing the capital Monrovia and left hundreds dead before Taylor's forces beat off the attempt.

In what diplomats said was a reference to the United States, Annan said the force should be "under the lead of a (U.N.) member state."

Annan's letter, first released by the United Nations in Geneva where he is to attend a meeting next week of the world body's Economic and Social Council, was sent to current Security Council President Sergei Lavrov of Russia.

HIGHLY TRAINED FORCE

"I would ... like to request that the Security Council take urgent action to authorize the deployment to Liberia of a highly trained and well-equipped multinational force, under the lead of a member state," Annan wrote.

The force was vital "to prevent a major humanitarian tragedy and to stabilize the situation in that country," he said.

"Our collective interest and our common humanity demand urgent and decisive action from the Security Council. We cannot be oblivious to the warning signs of an imminent possible catastrophe."

Earlier this week, President Bush called on Taylor, wanted by an international court for war crimes in Sierra Leone, to step down, but did not offer to help him go.

Diplomats said there was growing frustration among senior U.N. officials over the U.S. "hands-off" stance in a country founded by freed American slaves more than 150 years ago.

Greenstock pointed out that France was leading a multinational force in the Democratic Republic of Congo and is engaged in a peacekeeping effort in Ivory Coast, while Britain still has troops in Sierra Leone.

Annan said the consequences of letting the situation in Liberia spiral out of control "are too terrible to contemplate, not only for Liberia but also for the countries of the sub-region" -- especially Sierra Leone and Ivory Coast.

(Evelyn Leopold in New York contributed to this report)
 
This is the same Kofi Annan who would not back us in Iraq. Oh, so NOW he wants U.S. troops?:rolleyes: The same Kofi Annan who was too busy playing Mazola Twister to be concerned with what happened in Rwanda. I really like how the world whines about "the U.S. thinks it runs the world and that's wrong!" but when the SHTF somewhere and no one else has the cojones necessary to do the job right, it's "the U.S. should help, they are the rightful stewards of the world!" Is thaaaaaat right? Ya don't say! Well, world, for starters, how about freakin' PAYING the money you owe us?? Can't afford it? Frick you, pay us. You didn't think you had to pay it back? Frick you, pay us. Go talk to your courageous buddies the French. Or the Germans. I'm sure they'll be glad to sacrifice their young men so after you're liberated from a tyrant you can show your gratitude by shooting those soldiers that just five minutes back gave their whole morning ration to your kids. I'm sure they'll love to show up and have half the freakin' city turn out to drag one of their comrade's dead body through the streets and spit on it. Hey, save your own frickin' selves! If we don't see the writing on the wall on this one, we're dumber than I thought.
 
Great...yet another Third World hellhole where we can commit our young men. Will this be like the "year-long" intervention in Bosnia?

The fighting forces of the US Army and Marine Corps are not there to play traffic cop in Absurdistan and Upper Revolta.
 
Galahad

I totally agree with your comments. I don't think US should led another intervention/invasion, or whatever it's called, to overthrow some "dictator-of-the-month", especially if it has nothing to do with the USA.

Most these kind of countries wants US intervention because" America is the land of the free", and I may add the land of the dollar. These people just want that the US pour them some cash that they will never be able to pay, and both sides know it.
 
Africa wanted to be free from colonialism. They got it. And, along with it, all the evil bugaboos that come when a major world power with a huge army is not watching your six and doling out the chow in famines anymore in exchange for a large share of your GNP. So, it's time for Africa to buck up and handle it.
 
Even though I didnt support going into Iraq, the european hypocrisy on this issue is blatantly obvious. "Oh, big bad US dont go invading another country (when it will make us look bad and give you more money than us), but please come stabilize this third world ????hole (that we (euros) cant be bothered with)"
 
"Compassion" says we send 'em all the troops they need.

"Diversity" says we bring the Liberians back here, maybe to Maine
to neighbor it up with the Somalis.

Bush lusts to be loved. Ironically, he isn't, no matter what he does.
Not outside the U.S. anyway.

Instead of worrying about telemarketers interrrupting dinner, he
ought to be worrying about our wide-open borders. Rome's burning,
Mr. B, keep fiddling.
 
The USS Kearsarge has already off-loaded the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade at Onslow Beach, N.C. today.

That doesn't mean that the US won't provide OTHER "peacekeepers" to Liberia. It only means that they decided it unwise to deploy a unit that had already seen plenty of action in Iraq on another "peacekeeping mission".

Don
 
Most eyes in Liberia turn to the United States because of its historical links with a country founded more than 150 years ago by freed slaves trying to establish a haven of liberty.
Hard to believe that a century and a half has just flown by, with our country fighting our own Civil War (and this nation's successful reconstruction), fought two world wars to rid the world of tyrannical dictators, built the most vibrant economy on the planet, and here's the Liberians saying "It's the American's responsibility to come back here and make everything right." :cuss:

How about we just have weekly flights of C-130's to Africa, that fly over the continent and dump bales of American $20 bills out the rear door? We could get the same results, and cut out all the middlemen. :banghead: geegee
 
To give you some idea of how sickeningly bad things are in Liberia today (and why a US intervention would probably not produce long-term stability), here's an article from the Sunday Telegraph, London (http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/...2910.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2003/06/29/ixop.html):

A bad man in Africa
By Anthony Daniels
(Filed: 29/06/2003)

Profile: Charles Taylor

Few men in recent history have wrought as much misery and destruction as Charles Taylor, the elected President of Liberia. His ambition and greed have caused not only the displacement of a million of his own countrymen out of a population of a mere three million, and brought about the death of a tenth of the population, but he has provoked civil war in two neighbouring states, Sierra Leone and the Ivory Coast. Now his country is mostly under the control of two rebel movements that are besieging the capital, Monrovia, and it is only a matter of time before he is overthrown.

At the beginning of this month, Taylor was indicted for crimes against humanity by an international court sitting in Sierra Leone, and a warrant was issued for his arrest. This will hardly have encouraged him to stand down as President, as he had shortly before agreed to do, to allow the setting-up of an interim government. Now he wants to fight to the finish, however much bloodshed this might entail. At the age of 55 he still relishes the trappings of power and likes to be seen on thrones in golden robes. He has at least one wife, Jewel, who lives in the Ivory Coast. His daughter, Edena, came to public attention two years ago, when aged 13, she was publicly caned at her school by her father for indiscipline.

Taylor's career cannot be understood without some knowledge of Liberian history. He was the third of 15 children of Americo-Liberian parents: descendants of the freed American slaves who established the Liberian republic, and who dominated Liberia politically and economically for 133 years from its foundation until 1980, despite being only 3 per cent of the population.

He was sent to the United States by his father for university education and obtained a degree in economics from Bentley College in Massachusetts. To pay for his extravagant partying, he worked on the production line of a toy factory called Sweetheart Plastics. He was also involved in Liberian student politics of a radical nature, influenced by Marxist and Pan-African ideas, and at one time, advocated burning down the Liberian embassy in Washington.

Back in Liberia, in 1980 the semi-literate Master-Sergeant Samuel Doe led a violent coup in which the former President, William Tolbert, was disembowelled in his bed. Seeing an opportunity for real power, Taylor returned to Liberia, where he was appointed head of the General Services Agency, the new government's procurement organisation. This gave him not only cabinet rank but immense powers of patronage and possibilities for personal enrichment.

Doe came to power claiming to be a representative of the tribal people of Liberia, in opposition to their colonial masters, the Americo-Liberians; but, in practice, he soon started to favour members of his own tribe, the Krahn. This led him to conflict with other leaders of the 1980 coup, one of whom, Thomas Quiwonkpah, a member of the Gio tribe, led an invasion from the Ivory Coast to overthrow Doe. Quiwonkpah nearly succeeded, but was captured in Monrovia, and his corpse, according to witnesses, was dragged through the streets and parts of it were eaten by Doe's men. There were brutal reprisals in Nimba County, where many of Quiwonkpah's fellow tribesmen lived.

Taylor was believed to have been sympathetic to Quiwonkpah and, realising the danger he was in, he fled to the United States. Doe, then an ally of the US, claimed that Taylor had embezzled $900,000 from the General Services Agency, and Taylor was arrested in America at the request of Doe, who wanted him extradited to Liberia. He spent 15 months in a Massachusetts prison until, with four petty criminals, he sawed through his bars and escaped. No efforts were made to recapture him. His lawyer was Ramsey Clarke, a former Attorney-General, which is indicative of Taylor's ability to form valuable connections.

On his return to Africa, Taylor became the head of the National Patriotic Front of Liberia, dedicated to overthrowing Doe. He received the backing of Col Gadaffi, who was trying to extend his influence in Africa, as well as Blaise Campaore, the President of Burkina Faso, and Felix Houphouet-Boigny, the President of the Ivory Coast.

In 1989, Taylor launched an invasion of Liberia from the Ivory coast and he soon came to control the entire country except the capital, Monrovia. A multinational West African military force prevented Taylor from taking the capital, but Doe was captured by a former ally of Taylor's, the self-styled Brigadier-General Field-Marshal Prince Y Johnson. Doe was stripped naked and filmed having his ears cut off with a knife while Johnson, drinking beer, interrogated him as to the numbers of his bank accounts. Doe died soon afterwards, and the video of his torture was sold in large numbers in West Africa.

Taylor's forces included children, who were often dressed in bizarre costumes and blond wigs. Frequently under the influence of drugs, they were notable for their childish brutality and up to 200,000 people were killed in this phase of the war. A stalemate ensued, with an "official" government installed in Monrovia, while Taylor controlled the rest of the country and ruled from a town called Gbarnga. He was able to amass a huge fortune through the continued sale of Liberia's plentiful natural resources such as diamonds, iron ore and timber..

Eventually, after about 15 failed peace conferences, elections were brokered in 1996, and the Liberian population realised that Taylor would seek the presidency by other means if they did not vote for him. Wanting an end to the war at any price, they voted for Taylor. This did not satisfy his ambitions, however. By the time he reached power, Monrovia was not an auspicious place from which to bestride the world. It had been more comprehensively destroyed than any capital in the world. Rubbish accumulated on the beaches, every important building was damaged by gunfire and thoroughly looted, the streets were potholed and no public services worked. A brief interregnum of reconstruction has been followed by another orgy of destruction.

Still theoretically a Pan-African and in practice a kleptomaniac who pillaged the wealth of the nation, Taylor attempted to install puppets in Sierra Leone and the Ivory Coast by the same means that he had achieved power in Liberia. Most notoriously he backed and armed the collectively psychopathic Revolutionary United Front of Sierra Leone, whose murderous atrocities startled the world, and for whose arms he paid with the diamonds of Sierra Leone.

Now he is getting his comeuppance. In 1999, a rebel movement called Liberians United for Reconciliation and Democracy (Lurd), backed by Guinea and based in Sierra Leone, invaded Liberia, using the same kind of tactics and soldiery that Taylor used. And the government of the Ivory Coast, exasperated by Taylor's interference, backed the Movement for Democracy in Liberia (Model). These rebels have now all but conquered Liberia, and Taylor faces the same fate as Samuel Doe, 13 years ago. But the triumph of Lurd and Model will not bring peace to Liberia: without clear leadership, they have no policy beyond killing anyone who might be a supporter of Taylor.

Taylor is not only a war criminal (he once attempted to sue The Times for suggesting that he was a cannibal, though the action was eventually struck out because of his unwillingness to appear in a London court), but he is also a Baptist preacher. Accused in the United Nations of being a gun-runner and a diamond smuggler, he dressed up in an angel's white robe and spoke at a mass prayer meeting. Accused by a journalist of being a murderer, he stated that Jesus was also accused of being a murderer in his time. It appears, however, that he will soon receive his earthly reward.
 
Taylor faces the same fate as Samuel Doe, 13 years ago.

I wouldn't surrender, if I were given Sgt. Doe's fate! He was tortured to death (forced to eat his chopped off ears) on video.

Mr. Taylor must be thinking about this!

Don
 
Send in the Marines.

Extract any and all US citizens that wish to be extracted.

Pull out the embassy and inform them that we'll send the ambassador back as soon as there's a government to send the ambassador back to.

Extract the Marines.

Go home.

Roast wiener dogs on the beach at Camp LeJeune.

End of story.
 
Best thing we can do for Africa is ignore it and allow the Africans to work it out themselves. Our meddling only makes things far worse.

El Tejon, I think you have the right idea. Let the locals sort it out themselves.

But, I don't think this is what is going to happen. The POTUS has already called for "regime change" and the UN is putting pressure on the US to send in "peace keeping" forces.

There is also internal political pressure for the US to intervene. Remember the screams of outrage when the US didn't stop the ethnic violence in Rwanda?

This it what happens when happens when you become "world policeman".

Call me an isolationist....... but unless US security interests are at stake, I say just let them beat themselves bloody until they get tired of it.... without US money, support or troops.

Don
 
Pull out the embassy and inform them that we'll send the ambassador back as soon as there's a government to send the ambassador back to.

Tamara, the US has wisely chosen to send the USS Kearsarge and the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Bde. home for R&R.

But, the administration is probably thinking of sending others to take their place.

Don
 
I think we should let the European Union field this one.

Mike, don't think this is going to happen.

The Brits saved the day in Sierra Leon. And the French took care of the Ivory Coast situation. I think the world is expecting the US to take care of this new "tar-baby" crisis (since Liberia was mostly a US invention).

It would have been much easier if the POTUS hadn't called for "regime change"! :mad:

Don
 
Don, of course, it is possible to have regime change without sending in troops. [Touching wood] Just like (maybe) Iran!

ET, I may be wrong......... but the "Iran collapsing on it's own" scenario sounds like wishfull thinking to me.

Don
 
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