So.. an AR, Yugo SKS, and a Marlin 1894....

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Rexrider

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….go out to the desert to decide which one is the most fun to shoot.

A range report…sort of.

My friend and I headed out to the desert last Sunday to do some plinking. Nothing serious, just shooting at soda cans, coffee cans, and water jugs. While I was packing up my gear I started to ponder which rifle was the most fun. None of them are not fun, that’s for sure!

So, here is my viewpoint on casual shooting of a Colt AR, Yugo SKS, and a Marlin 1894.

The AR (Colt Match Target)
Well, can’t make any argument that an AR is not fun to shoot. What’s not to like? Accurate, reasonable weight, low recoil, and can be reconfigured for different rolls just by swapping out the upper. The only down side to this particular rifle is it is a “ban era†AR. But this in no way distracted from the shooting experience. As my friend said “without the flash hider, it just looks…wrongâ€. Funny, he forgot all about what it looked like after running a few mags through it.

Hard to believe this design is a middle aged design now. It has definitely matured over its life span. It may not fire the hardest hitting round but what it may lack in punch, it makes up for in accuracy and ease of operation. You almost can’t help hitting what you aim at. For me, it is the most ergonomic rifle I have used. It just fits. I just wish the magazines did not take so long to load. Definitely the rifle to grab if confronted with hoards of zombies :D

I did have two failures. One dud round. I was using up some 80’s era M193 Malaysian ammo. I was not surprised or concerned (although it was the first dud I encountered). This was why I was using it up for plinking. The second was a little more serious but easy to correct. The black follower in a DPMS black magazine tilted and wedged itself in the body with 2 rounds left. First time this has ever happened to me. These are outstanding mags (as most people know) but do not have the anti-tilt follower. A set of green followers has already been ordered to retro fit all of my DPMS mags.

That aside, a very fun rifle to shoot.


The Yugo SKS (Unissued grade)
The cheap commie rifle. This thing is almost like an anti-AR. It’s long and heavy. Only has a ten round fixed magazine and uses stripper clips. Not considered the most accurate rifle but mine seems to do reasonably well. At least as far as hitting cans at 50+ yds. The Williams peep sight I installed is like night and day over the stock sight.

Those of you who have never shot an SKS are probably wondering how this could be competing for a most fun rifle to shoot. Those who have…..well, they know why.

Because of its weight and mid-powered round it does not really have any more recoil then the AR. It is also built like a tank. Cheap commie rifle my [censored]. This thing is not cheap. This is the kind of rifle that will just keep going. Drop it in dirt, pick it up and pull the trigger. No second thoughts. Did not have a chance to clean it? Don’t worry, it will work.

[Side note. My friend’s two sons each have there own SKS. No matter how many speeches he and I have given them about cleaning their guns, they just don’t. We have given up. As my friend put it “they can pay for their own guns from now on and not clean themâ€. Their rifles have not been cleaned since the cosmoline was removed. They did not have any failures.]

Even though the SKS only holds ten rounds, it is so easy to reload with stripper clips. It was easier to keep the SKS firing then the AR. I had a bandolier of clips and had a blast. Now, in all fairness I did not have preloaded mags for the AR. (Note to self: take loaded mags with next time for the AR).

No failures. This is the best $150 rifle I have ever bought. For those on a tight budget and looking for a reliable 7.62x39 rifle, this is the one. Hell, even if you have a huge budget you should try one. Always a fun time.

The Marlin 1894 (357 mag/38 special)
Wow, lets talk old school. A rifle from a world long since gone. This was the most recent addition to the family. I had wanted one of these for over 12 yrs. Just never got around to getting one until this year. It always seemed to get bumped on the “want listâ€. Man, what was I thinking. Can’t believe I missed out on this all these years.

A very nice looking rifle. Small, light, and easy to maneuver. Not a long range rifle but long distance shooting is not in its job description (for this model). But it does make a great all around working rifle. Use it for hunting (within reason), home defense, camping, ranch/critter control, truck, and just plain fun plinking.

As much as I enjoy shooting semi-auto, there is something about a rifle that you have to be part of to operate. Sort of like…interactive shooting.

I really like the idea of the versatility of being able to use 357 mag and 38 special. It is almost amusing how much less recoil and sound come from the 38’s. It is almost like shooting a 22.

The 1894 also received the most requests to be borrowed. My friend shot the Marlin more than the AR. The boys were also excited to see the Marlin and of course asked for a couple of turns with it. I would have bet money the boys would have turned their collective noses up at it. Nope, they were like “wowâ€, “that’s coolâ€, “dude…that’s sickâ€, “when can I have a turn?â€.

Rate of fire can be respectable once you get the hang of it. Sustained rate of fire is a different story. Everything is great until the tube runs dry. No stripper clips here. Grab a handful of rounds and start loading. Maybe this is not the best choice for those hordes of zombies but guess what? In the real world, there are no hordes of zombies (the undead brain eating type). If I am ever in a situation that requires using all 10 rounds then I have the wrong tool for the job….not to mention probably needing air support as well.

No one had any trouble hitting what they were aiming for. It is an accurate little rifle. Using 38’s made it almost too easy. No failures of any kind. Everyone had fun with it. I still find it ironic the old school lever action was the choice of the day.

So, when the day was over and everything was put away the question remained. Which one was the most fun? The beauty if it is…I don’t have to answer that. I am thankful that I don’t. I live in a country (and state) that allows me to enjoy my hobby and pick whichever rifle I am in the mood to shoot. The fun is in knowing I can go and enjoy casual shooting in the desert or go to a range and enjoy seeing how close I can get the holes to each other.

For those of you in states that don’t allow you these choices, Nov 2nd is your day to be heard. Please get out and vote. If that does not work, you are always welcome in AZ.

Cheers
Rexrider
 
Is this your first lever gun?

The benefit of a tube mag is you load while you aren't shooting, and the gun is still fireable.

You top it off.

Not a good choice for hordes of zombies? I beg to differ.

Its all about technique and practice. Shoot one, load one, shoot two, load atleast one. Top if off every chance you get.

and that mag doesn't have to be full to shoot it... You can load 2-3 just to get it in action and then continue loading it.
 
Yes, this is my first lever gun.

In the context of just plinking, I was running the tube dry and then reloading. I am aware the benefits of being able to top off the rifle. You do get spoiled being able to load a new magazine in the AR as you go. However, as I pointed out, once the loaded mags are gone it is very time consuming to load them again.

In a defensive situation I certainly would not feel underpowered with the lever action. And yes, there is an advantage of being able to top off as you go. As a matter of fact I would like to find some kind of cartridge holder that attaches to the buttstock so that rounds can be pulled off and loaded.

You did make a good point about practicing topping off. It is one thing to know it and another to actually do it.
 
Great report!! Enjoyed reading it and could not agree more.

As far as reloads go, with a box magazine you can have the wife or kids loading mags while you keep the brain-eating undead at bay! Get them each a LULA, and your hand-guards will be too hot to hold before you run dry on mags. :D
 
Rexrider,

Now you've done it. You've re-opened old wounds for me. I've been dying to get both the Marlin 1894 and SKS for some time now. My budget severely limits my ability to purchase new rifles.

I can relate to your comments about the lever-action rifles, though. I have a Marlin 39. I went shooting with some neighbors two weeks ago. We shot a Ruger 10/22, shotguns, a Makarov, a Rugar 9mm, a .357 revolver, a .380, etc. The one gun that everybody had to shoot was the Marlin 39. In fact, I overheard one neighbor whisper to the other that he wouldn't let me leave until he'd had a chance to shoot the Model 39!

As for the SKS. There's an extra something about that rifle that makes it really desireable. The Yugo's have that big bayonet that screams [Southpark]Respect my authority![/Southpark].
 
Sorry Shane333.
I feel your pain. The firearm budget never seems enough.

The good news is the two rifles you are looking at are realitivly inexpensive. You can find unissued SKS's ranging from $130 to $175. $150 is very common. Anything over $175 is a rip-off. Shooter grades can be as low as $80 but tend to be a little beat up but sometimes you can find a decent one. The Marlin can be found for $299 on sale. I got mine at Big 5.

You don't need much else except for ammo. You can use any 7.62x39 in the SKS. I don't recommend corrosive surplus stuff. I don't think the price break is worth the risk of corrosion, IMHO. Wolf works just fine. Stripper clips are cheap. If you go with a 357/38 lever you can always start out with cheaper 38's.

Good luck. You may want to write Santa this year. ;)
 
Thanks Rexrider.

I've found the unissued Yugo's for about $160 around here. Of course, removing the cosmoline would be an all day job.
 
Yes removing cosmoline is a long task -- but it really lets you get to know your rifle.

As stated above, anyone who doesn't think a lever gun can be fast, has never seen one in good hands. Watch cowboy action shooting sometime (I think it is on OLN now) to see how fast they can be.

My CAS club has a charity shoot against local cops...they with their issue weapons (primarily semi-autos) and we with our "old" guns. The cowboys typically "smoke" em.
 
Paid $189 OTD for mine at the local gunshop. They had removed the cosmo, which definitely makes it worth it to me. Came with the original logbook, too. 145 rounds were all that were shot through it. Easily the best $200 I've ever spent.
 
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