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SO, another silly question... this one about the Kel Tec PLR-16

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by PT1911, Oct 22, 2010.

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  1. PT1911

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    I was in the local shop today and it just so happens that my friend, the owner, got in 3 of the PLR 16's... I have given them a look a few times in the past but never gave much serious thought to them as I just could not convince myself of its practical use... well, my mind may have been changed today as I handled one with a handguard installed and got to looking at some other accessories available for it...

    From what I have read and heard from a few folks, these are impressively accurate for what they are... a 9 1/4 (?) inch .223 with no shoulder stock. However, the question still remains... What, outside of range play, would I do with this? To me, at least, it fills the same niche as would an AR or AK pistol and does so better. I suppose it could be used for hunting as effectively as pretty much any handgun... would serve well as a SHTF gun I suppose... though I would not consider it much for HD without the a shoulder stock or the ability to practically use the sights without the use of a sling...though I suppose if someone trained for/with such a thing it could thrive as a CQ defensive weapon.... Honestly, when it comes to HD, it seems to be on par with a PGO shottie and we know where that convo leads...:neener:

    SO, what other uses does this little bugger have outside of zombie killing?:rolleyes:

    Perhaps concealed carry in a shoulder rig with 5 extra mags along the small of your back... That aught to do it!!!!:D:D
     
  2. RX-178

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    It's basically the most compact, lightweight .223 caliber semi-auto on the market.

    It's rather inexpensive (at least it was when I purchased mine). Uses standard AR magazines. It's both lightweight and light-recoiling enough that firing the weapon one-handed is very easily done, and still quite accurate.

    The OEM sling can actually be easily rigged to position the weapon under your arm like a shoulder holster.

    All that adds up to.... a real oddball. :D
     
  3. M2 Carbine

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    I have two. (I also have a AR and AK pistol)
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    They are quite impressive.
    No matter what I was armed with I would hate to go up against a skilled shooter armed with this thing.
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    It is very accurate, reliable, powerful and high capacity and can be equipped with the full range of scopes, Red Dot sights and laser/lights.
    IMO it would make a fine HD or car gun, EXCEPT for one thing. It has a ear shattering muzzle blast.
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    I don't even want to think of shooting one of these in a car or home without ear protection..
     
  4. PT1911

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    I never thought I would give this little bugger any thought at all, but I suppose it was inevitably going to happen... cause of course I need one to go with my two AR's..... GAH... and the accessories!!!!....

    I suppose i will have to sleep on it for a while... while I build up the funds... sheesh, why did I buy that first gun (p22) when I was 21? From a lowly 22 plinker to an unstoppable snowball!... I suppose if I ever have kids, they will be happy about their inheritance.
     
  5. PT1911

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    How much of a difference did the flash suppressor make in your opinion M2?
     
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    I've had one for a couple of years now, great gun, very accurate and reliable with all kinds of different ammo. I have a LeVang Linear Compensator on mine, it helps a lot with the muzzle flash and blast, directs it downrange, away from the shooter.
     
  7. M2 Carbine

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    I was taking the video while my friend was shooting the gun with and without the Phantom flash suppressor.
    As my friend said, "I see it but I don't believe it".

    I was amazed as I viewed a number of video stills of the gun with and without the Phantom.
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    This is actually the same gun in the earlier picture, firing after screwing on the Phantom.
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    Later several shooters, including myself, think the noise is reduced just the very slightest amount. Not really enough to make any difference.
     
  8. BamAlmighty

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    price?

    I have been debating picking up a < 14" AR, but I figure this would be cheaper and I get to skip the whole NFA thing.
     
  9. PT1911

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    My local shop has them for 499 (?) I believe...
     
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    I have one and have had no problems with it. I use Tula steel cased ammo. The only thing I can say is that it is really just a range toy. I really wish I would have bought something else. It has no purpose. It's also VERY LOUD. I mean so loud that you almost need double hearing protection. I have the KT brake on mine.
     
  11. PT1911

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    I suppose it certainly would be a good candidate for a suppressor one of these days if I ever decide to go down that road....

    I can never count on you guys to change my mind about anything... SHEESH...

    the whole lot of you are enablers!!!!!!:D:cuss::D
     
  12. M2 Carbine

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    A few more pictures.

    1/4 inch steel plate.
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    55 gr Remington JSP compared with a 45 Gold Dot.
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    Wolf ammo jamming in the PLR chamber.
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    Dumping 30 rounds at 100 yards, standing, using a BSA Red Dot sight. (the Red pasters are a light load I was working on.
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    Darnit M2 you are making me consider adding a companion to my RRA! Nice shootin'!
     
  14. BamAlmighty

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    Well I'm sold, at < $500 it is the cheap enough that I am not going to lose sleep if it turns out to be garbage.

    Is it actually chambered for 5.56? Or just .223?
     
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  15. M2 Carbine

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    On the receiver, "PLR-16 5.56 mm".



    Some factory rounds I chronographed.

    1998 South African 55 gr FMJ = 2538 fps

    WWB 55 gr FMJ = 2514 fps

    (new) Wolf 62 gr FMJ = 2387 fps
    (Kel Tec guns don't like Wolf ammo. It jams a lot and is inaccurate.)

    Black Hills 55 gr JSP = 2514 fps

    Interesting that the WWB and Black Hlls was exactly the same.
     
  16. PT1911

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    Yeah, I think i am pretty much sold on it too when I get the funds.... well, I have the funds, but I need to be more patient... I have been too impulsive recently...
     
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