So I emailed Gunbroker about "nursebell" the powder queen....

[theslasher]

I emailed Gunbroker about "Nursebell".. The person from Indiana who is buying lots and lots of powder and marking it up by double (atleast), and not shipping hazmat. Hopefully we can stop them. Some people do not see it as a problem but I do.. I know what kind of time it takes to package and ship things Ive sold online and theirs no way they have a job.. If this person would leave all this powder where they are getting it, somebody else could buy it and use it for normal price... I know where I can get a couple #8 jugs of Varget for $160 + tax. But I cant bring myself to be a dirtbag and put them on gb to get $400-$500+ each for them.

 

[Drop45]

Call the postmaster general and let them figure it out. Maybe they can order some powder and set up a little sting operation. Just my thought

 

[huntsman]

Caveat Emptor in a free market system, funny how a shortage brings out the self appointed sheriffs.

 

[bluetopper]

Gunbroker makes money on every transaction listed with them, may they continue to prosper.

Call the Lone Ranger.

 

[Sam1911]

So, what exactly are you trying to enforce? The Hazmat laws? Income or business tax law? Do you routinely blow the whistle on every tax code or shipping regulation you think someone has violated? You must keep mighty busy.


Or are you enforcing some self-created rule against other people selling what they buy for more than they paid for it?

I know what kind of time it takes to package and ship things Ive sold online and theirs no way they have a job

Ok. So what? What business is it of yours whether they have a job or not? Maybe they're disabled, home-bound, a mom who stays home with her kids, retired, etc, and this is one way they can put some more food on the table.

If the demand wasn't there -- if people weren't WILLING to pay whatever price this person is charging -- then this income stream would be dead to her. If folks are willing to part with "double" what the retailers are selling for, then someone will capitalize on that difference. Maybe the retailers should recognize that the demand is higher than the supply and raise their prices accordingly so she would lose her profit margin and stop buying.

 

[theslasher]

Yes very busy.. 40+ hr a week job and a 20 month old son... Say you go to Cabelas and you looking for reloading powder. And you walk down the aisle and somebody is buying ALL of it to put it online and sell to numb nuts people who have more money then brains.. And you and everyone else who goes there after you are able to purchase NONE! You see no problem with this at all?

 

[theslasher]

And the reason I even say anything about them is by looking at their gb profile they cant live much more than an hour away from me. So they are cleaning out all of the local places.

 

[Sam1911]

40+ hr a week job and a 20 month old son.

I'll raise ya 10 hours a week and an additional four kids!

...

Somebody has time and money to buy it? It's theirs. It's a free country. You want to buy it? Show up with your money before they do and buy it. Then they can boo hoo over the fact that YOU bought it. First come, first served. Cash talks.

Again, if it was priced ACCURATELY for the current supply/demand conditions, there would be no profit in someone reselling it after it has been sold at retail. If Cabelas cared about YOU at all they'd raise the price until Mr/Ms reseller didn't make a dime on reselling it, and then there would be plenty and more than plenty for you to buy. But they don't care about you and are perfectly happy to sell every grain to whomever walks in the door.

You want to boo hoo over WHY they bought it? That's none of your business or mine. You're speculating that they're going to resell it, but we've got 50 posts this week (approx.) from folks saying, "my local shop finally got 5 bottles of 4895 and I bought every bottle! I'm never going to be caught without again!" Heck, ask nicely and they might sell a bottle to you! For a decent profit...

Do they have more money than brains? What a rude thing to say. They might have more money than YOU, but that's the way the world works.

You want it? Do what it takes to get there and get it. You don't want it quite that bad? Buy it from someone who has it, and pay a little more for it. You don't want it quite THAT bad? Don't buy it and do something else with your time until the market returns to normal.

Much boo hoo-ing...

 

[Otto]

http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/phmsa-ext/feedback/hazmatComplaintsRegsViolationsForm.jsp

 

[theslasher]

Ok. Thanks for being an A**... Since you've posted on here over 26,000 times (11 times per day).. You have plenty of time to pick up a pound or two of W231 for me in your neck of the woods and ship it to me via regular mail.. Now Im done boo-hooing

 

[drwindmill]

I feel sorry for the fools who pay 2x the cost!

 

[Sam1911]

Since you've posted on here over 26,000 times (11 times per day).. You have plenty of time to pick up a pound or two of W231 for me in your neck of the woods and ship it to me via regular mail.. Now Im done boo-hooing

I really, really would do that for you. I did see plenty of W231 last time I was in my local reloading place. But I'm not going to violate the shipping laws and I'm not going to get my HazMat certs like the powder shippers have.

Sorry, you'll just have do to what any person who wants a high-demand commodity must do: make the effort, pay the price, or go without.

It's what I do, it's what those "flippers" do.

If you want to get someone nailed for HazMat violations, that's your business. I've kind of got that "he that's without sin cast the first stone" idea stuck in my head so I don't like to try and get folks in trouble with the authorities. But if it makes you fell like you've struck back against an unfair world, I can understand that.

 

[oneounceload]

Sounds more like sour grapes about being underfunded in a free market economy. Do you voluntarily pay the use tax on your interstate purchases? Are you jealous because they are doing something to make money you didn't think of instead? Really, get to the store earlier, order on line or pay the going market rate - just like you are doing now for gas.....

 

[Wreck-n-Crew]

Her's my take...

If people weren't buying it they would not be selling it. Let the desperate be desperate and the patient be smart with their money. I don't like what I have seen any more than the next guy, but I won't let it consume me, I have a life to live and more important things to worry about.

 

[TIMC]

Funny how some people scream to defend the constitution and individual rights all the way up to the time it's something they don't like, then they turn Democrat and want to tell everyone else what to do! Hahahaha, that's too funny!

 

[newfalguy101]

I feel sorry for the fools who pay 2x the cost!

why??

Its there money, if they want the product that bad, more power to em!!


NOBODY is forcing anybody to pay high prices. For MOST people, the gun hobby is a luxury, meaning when prices get to be more than they want to pay, they quit buying, its NOT a life or death kind of thing, they evidently have ( or at least believe they have) the disposable income to spend, soo I say LET em spend it!!

 

[newfalguy101]

I know where I can get a couple #8 jugs of Varget for $160 + tax. But I cant bring myself to be a dirtbag and put them on gb to get $400-$500+ each for them.

So buy em at retail and list them for exactly what you paid, and pass on the good fortune of having found powder!!!

Or better yet, list them for LESS than you paid so everybody will be all warm and fuzzy...

heck, I would give you $150 each + hazmat................course I will turn around and list it on GB for what I have in it, and see what people are willing to pay......afterall its an auction site, if they want to pay more than I did, sweet, they get what they want and I put a bit of cash in my bank account....probably even take my beautiful wife out for a steak dinner!!!

 

[theslasher]

So nobody thinks that if gunbroker were to stop the sale of smokless powder on their site, that powder wouldnt stay on store shelves longer at their normal prices? Since you wouldnt have people buying it all up just to make a quick buck?

 

[newfalguy101]

And by extension preventing people who do NOT have a LGS from acquiring that same powder?????

 

[plmitch]

Never a dull moment here..........

 

[Sam1911]

I really don't. I think folks would still buy and sell it at gun shows, on other web sites, via. the "for sale" board at the local gun club, in the local "penny pincher" magazine, etc.

But what does it matter? If Cabelas, or whomever, is selling it for so much less than folks are willing to pay for it, folks WILL sell it again to make that profit for themselves.

The only way to stop the reselling market is to make the retail price close enough to the true "market value" so there's no profit in reselling.

 

[theslasher]

And by extension preventing people who do NOT have a LGS from acquiring that same powder?????

Isnt that Powder Valley and Natchez are for?

 

[grubbylabs]

Yes very busy.. 40+ hr a week job and a 20 month old son... Say you go to Cabelas and you looking for reloading powder. And you walk down the aisle and somebody is buying ALL of it to put it online and sell to numb nuts people who have more money then brains.. And you and everyone else who goes there after you are able to purchase NONE! You see no problem with this at all?

No I don't see a problem, it's how a free market is supposed to work.

All of the cry babies need to take a basic Econ class and quite crying like a bunch of Democrats who are not getting their way. Every one is for a free market until they loose, then suddenly some one should do something about it.

 

[Elkins45]

So nobody thinks that if gunbroker were to stop the sale of smokless powder on their site, that powder wouldnt stay on store shelves longer at their normal prices? Since you wouldnt have people buying it all up just to make a quick buck?

So lets extend that thinking to guns, scopes, slings and every other product Gunbroker sells. Why should they allow people to sell guns people want? Shouldn't the local shops be able to sell them to people who need them locally instead of unfairly offering them to fools all over the country who are willing to outbid each other so that the item sells for the highest possible price?

In a free market no buyer has special privilege, in spite of the fact that you want someone to extend it to you.

I went to the gun show today in Louisville and saw 100 packs of CCI 22 ammo marked at $15. The lowest price per round I saw was 325 rounds of low end stuff for $40. That's just the reality of the market--but I didn't see anybody buying it. Maybe next month it will be lower.

 

[higgite]

Isnt that Powder Valley and Natchez are for?

And Gunbroker.