So I finally bought a bolt action rifle.

[jojo200517]

Thats right folks I finally bought one of those that doesn't go bang so fast. I was in the hardware store looking for a couple of extension springs today and I saw a Russian 91/30 Mosin Nagant in the case. After looking it over I decided to get it and hold off on getting a mac-10.(.45acp is still hard to find around here at a decent price)

It came with a bayonet, a nylon sling, 2 connected pouch things, one containing a square 2 part oil bottle and the other some kind of smaller black leather pouch and a tool kit.

The finish of the wood is dark in color and has some wear but no real major gouges in the wood. Bought it, 4 boxes of ammo and the springs I needed (3.29) and was out the door for about 150 bucks. Granted I could have got a rifle from aim surplus for 80 bucks by the time I would have added shipping and FFL transfer it would have probably cost me more.

The only thing that appears to be missing is the stripper clips which to me isn't that big of a deal since I can poke them in one at a time.

I was looking up the markings and information on 7.62x54r.net and it appears to be a Tula '39 model.

I'll give a range report when it stops pouring rain and I can go outside and fire this beast.

 

[Avenger29]

The only thing that appears to be missing is the stripper clips which to me isn't that big of a deal since I can poke them in one at a time.

You might not even want to bother with the strippers.

I ordered a bunch of the supposedly "best" Tikka ones and even when using the correct technique as demonstrated in a few threads on this board, I still fouled up.

Course, my gun's clip guide might not be the finest dimensioned one (but the gun is a 1927 Tula)...

I just do a lot better snapping them into the magazine one at a time.

The only thing you need is a bunch of ammo and some range time. And maybe a recoil pad (Limbsaver, size small, slip on)

 

[jojo200517]

The only thing you need is a bunch of ammo and some range time. And maybe a recoil pad (Limbsaver, size small, slip on)

I noticed they pushed in pretty simple without it, if I see one I'll pick it up just to see how it is. I also figured out how to get the sling on after I got all the cosmoline out of the front sling hole.

Yeah I noticed the steel plate on the rear, good for smashing heads and your shoulder. I thought about a pad but I was also considering putting one of those snazzy polymer furniture things on it like this http://www.combatstocks.com/Mosin_Nagant_Monte_Carlo_Stock.cfm

Please don't string me up by the toes for mentioning this I'll still keep the wood just like I did for the AK.

I don't plan on a scope right now but maybe sometime in the future, I don't really like scopes tho.

 

[The Deer Hunter]

I ordered a bunch of the supposedly "best" Tikka ones and even when using the correct technique as demonstrated in a few threads on this board, I still fouled up.

You just to give it some Russian love and shove them babies in there.

Just like everything else with the gun.

 

[Avenger29]

You just to give it some Russian love and shove them babies in there.

No, no matter how much force, the rounds still bound up. I could get 1 or 2 rounds into the mag, then they'd hang up.

I'm not too peeved about it, though. At least my rifle doesn't exhibit the sticky bolt problem, the trigger is pretty decent, and it's accurate (especially for a Russian made Mosin)

 

[Nicodemus38]

dissassemble the magazine completely, clean it down with hoppes several times in a row. spray it to death with camp dry silicone or just use hoppes gun oil on it. remove the ejector and ejector spring, clean them out and lube the same way. that will help alot.

in order to get a good stripper clip for a mosin rifle you need to buy a can of surplus ammunition in wich the ammo comes on clips already. those can betrusted to work.
reproduction ones seem to lack the correct dimensions on the lips that insert into the slot in the reciever.

 

[jojo200517]

Humm a local gun store was selling 7.62 x 39 on stripper clips out of ammo cans the other day, I'll have to see if they got some. Even if I pay a little extra for it to get the clips I could reuse them.

Ok so I have read a ton of negative as well as positive on the polymer furniture pieces for the mosin's. Anyone have any personal experience putting one on? Was it a simple take one off put the other on process or did it become a royal pain in the rear?

 

[jpwilly]

Humm a local gun store was selling 7.62 x 39 on stripper clips out of ammo cans the other day, I'll have to see if they got some. Even if I pay a little extra for it to get the clips I could reuse them.

Those 7.62x39 stripper clips aren't going to work witht the 7.62x54R.

Ok so I have read a ton of negative as well as positive on the polymer furniture pieces for the mosin's. Anyone have any personal experience putting one on? Was it a simple take one off put the other on process or did it become a royal pain in the rear?

If you want a synthetic stock get a Marlin XL7 for $279. Not only will your groups be better you Mosin will thank you.

 

[jojo200517]

Those 7.62x39 stripper clips aren't going to work witht the 7.62x54R.

Woops I ment to say see if they got some in 7.62x54r. They sell all kinds of ammo out of spam cans. Yeah I know the others wouldn't be nearly big enough.

$279 for a stock, for a $110 rifle? Geesh its not an ar-15 accessories aren't suppose to cost 3 times what the rifle did.


I did fire a couple shots into a dirt pile today just to see that it functioned. Didn't aim at any kind of target but it seemed to hit right where I pointed it. As for the recoil, HOLY CRAP. Reminded me of first time I ever shot a 12 gauge with a mag load. The silver bear soft points would be a force to be reckoned with at 203 gr. One thing I did notice is there appears to be no hollow point rounds in this size. Soft point and FMJ is all I have seen.

 

[Nicodemus38]

ammunition is a bit tricky in the 7.62x54r. most companies load the softpoint and fmj privi makes now, and then silver bear makes the 203 grain sp.

for hollow points your going to have to learn to reload. to do that youll need to know the exact barrel dimensions of your rifle. that diameter varied with production era. and if its a finnish made one or not.
the 91 and its variants use the same barrel and bullet dimensions that the 7.62x39 uses. good soviet engineering. a hollowpoint bullet for that caliber made in the proper .312 diameter will normally work in your mosin rifle. however bore variations got big in the war.

 

[jpwilly]

$279 for a stock, for a $110 rifle? Geesh its not an ar-15 accessories aren't suppose to cost 3 times what the rifle did.

No no no.. What I meant was a Marlin XL7 Rifle. And my insinuation was - don't put a synthetic stock on your Mosin, next you'll want a scope. Then you'll shot it and get the same lousy groups you got before you spent the $200 on crappy add ons and you could have just purchased a new inexpensive rifle that is far more accurate and would also have much better hunting ammo selection.

Or you can forget all that and get an ATI synthetic stock for your Nagant for around $70 and have some fun it's your rifle.

 

[Red Tornado]

While I like the Monte Carlo style stocks, I never could see putting one on my Mosins. They'd still be ugly, but they'd be ugly with no soul. Get the Limbsaver, a spam can of surplus, and go knock your shoulder out of socket. Don't forget the bayonet for charging the target when you go down range to check your groups.
RT