So Mexico wants a registry of border state gun owners?

[El Mariachi]

This, from the country who knows where all of their Drug Cartel Boyz live....but won't do a thing to go in and arrest them?

Brilliant.....

 

[TwoEyedJack]

I do feel sorry for the Mexicans, seeing as how at least 300 of their citizens have been killed so far with guns sent to the drug cartels by Eric Holder. The callous disregard for human life shown by the Obama regime is breathtaking. F&F was nothing more or less than a false-flag operation to influence US firearms policy. Dead Mexicans was not a by-product, it was the whole point. Too bad for the regime that one of the guns was used to kill a US agent and the whistle-blowers tattled on them.

 

[panhead58ak]

How about Mexico sending us a list of the missing Mexicans so we will be able to track down illegal alliens?

 

[Ehtereon11B]

Have Mexico send over a list of every illegal making a trip north. Then their demand will be considered.

 

[c1ogden]

uh, that's an easy task for us at least. For a list of gun owners in texas, just grab a phone book. Done.

outstanding!!!

 

[nwilliams]

Mexico can go choke on a....well you know.

Mexico needs to deal with it's own issues instead of always blaming the US for all it's problems. Corrupt cops and politicians in the pockets of drug cartels would be a good start Mexico.

 

[shiftyer1]

I can't speak for the other border states but it ain't hard to find a gun owning household in Texas, especially once you get away from the city!

 

[bogon48]

Probably part of the telenovela political drama to create support for the new Mexican president. Not gonna happen. Let 'em count the incoming bullets.

I'd like to see better management of illegal aliens, and a better work registry system with punishment for people who employ illegals. Pisses me off that some U.S. employers create a market for cheap and illegal labor that the rest of us pay taxes to try to stop. Same thing with America's thirst for drugs. Gotta disrupt the demand somehow.

Anyway, Mexico is hypocritical. They ask us for an open arms immigration policy, but their county doesn't do it. I was on a bus tour in Mexico several years ago in the Costa Maya region. We were on our way to a Mayan ruins along a road that was mostly dirt and sand. Dozers were still clearing brush. At two intersections, I saw roadblocks and soldiers with M-16s searching vehicles. While they weren't interested in our bus, I got nervous figuring we'd bumbled into a drug war or rebel area. No. The Mexican guides said that the soldiers were looking for illegal aliens headed in from the Caribbean and points south. Maybe those illegals were on their way north to the U.S., but they weren't welcome in Mexico.

 

[Queen_of_Thunder]

So send them phone books.

 

[4v50 Gary]

A narco-state wants what again?

 

[buckhorn_cortez]

I had a friend, and ex employee who lives near the Border, Los Cruces, in New Mexico.

It's 47 miles from Las Cruces to El Paso, Texas; and about 55 miles to the nearest border crossing that is in El Paso.

I haven't spoken to him in 3 years, after he flew up to talk about opening a computer business, and wanted to buy some pot and smoke it with his 16 yr old Daughter who he brought along with him, I told him we don't allow that kind of behavior, and that he should leave, he turned into a freak of some kind, but he lived in new mexico,for the past 25 yrs, and told us that you could drive right into mexico without being stopped, right from the highway, he was doing computer repairs in border towns, and other dirty places on both sides of the border, and charging rediculous prices. I kind of was suspect who his clients were, and he would not make it home one night. But he insisted that you can drive right in from a main highway without going thru a checkpoint.

While you can "just drive into Mexico," it involves a stop on the Mexican side of the border to check with the Mexican port of entry as they want to know why you're crossing into Mexico and how long you'll be staying. They will sometimes also want to know if you have Mexican insurance if you bring your own vehicle into Mexico.

The border between New Mexico and Mexico is to the west of El Paso, Texas. If you drive west on New Mexico Hwy 9, you are driving parallel to the border. You're in the middle of the desert, there are no houses, towns, or other settlements on the Mexican side of the border - and nothing on the New Mexican side but miles and miles of open desert.

When you get to NM Hwy. 11, south of Deming you can cross into Mexico south of Columbus, NM at Puerto Palomas, Mexico. There are border crossing stations on both sides of the border.

If you continue west, on NM Hwy 9, you are in the desert - there is no one around (except Mexicans sneaking into the US) until you get to the NM Bootheel area. You will cross NM Hwy. 81 that goes south and stops at the Mexican border. There is nothing south of the US at that point in the way of homes a town, etc. - the road stops.

If you continue west on Hwy 9, you go through the Peloncillo Mountains - and you're in Arizona.

I found that hard to believe but he swore that if you stayed on the highway you entered mexico.

About 25 or 30 years ago, you could sneak into Mexico south of Sunland Park, NM. If you knew where to drive off of Anapra Rd., and IF there were no Border Patrol agents - you could get across the railroad tracks and into Mexico. Today? There's the border fence that they've turned into a no-man's land complete with surveillance and roving patrols.

Sounds to me like your friend was trying desperately to impress you with some kind of wild west tales - none of which bear any resemblance to reality.

 

[JRH6856]

And those history buffs among us know that there is only one proper response to such a preposterous request.

"Nuts"

Those history buffs who know Texas history know that the correct response is the one given to Mexico by the people of Gonzales, Texas in 1835:

Come and Take It.

 

[Old Fuff]

Unfortunately they are, and our national government is doing little to stop it. :banghead:

 

[sansone]

Uh, that's an easy task for us at least. For a list of gun owners in Texas, just grab a phone book. Done.

oh that is excellent right there... thanks

 

[gym]

He's not my friend anymore, so I really can't call him, but he told me that he routinlly drove into Mexico with no border checkpoint. He had no reason to make it up, impressing me takes a lot more than that.
Like I mentioned he was one of the cheapest people on Gods green earth, and if there was a way, I would bet he knew of it. It's only about 5 years ago that we had been in contact, as he was telling me that he did a lot of business in Mexico, "then the part about driving straight in", I asked him several times how this was possible, he insisted he did it all the time.
Now this guy is a snake, he was also working on selling armored SUV's to wealthy Mexicans. I am sure they weren't Taco dealers.
If there was a way he would know it.

 

[ShamboPyro]

Well I want a registry of the semi auto taco trucks in Mexico!

 

[BearGriz]

I don't think anyone has said this (maybe they have), but...

Isn't this a national security issue? Telling another sovereign nation, one that borders us no less, what our "invasion resistance" strength is...uh, no thanks! I know that Mexico isn't really a candidate for our next war (here's hoping there won't be a next one), but you never know.

I seriously don't wear tinfoil hats, but I'm sure we pay people to look at these things in every light. There is probably a document somewhere in the CIA, DOD, DHS, etc. (or all of them have such a document), and this document would show the possibility of us having a war with...I dunno, China?

It is 8 years from now and China is allied with N. Korea and Russia against us (ok, throw in Venezuela just for fun). China also has a secret alliance with the (mostly) failed state of Mexico. They see Mexico as our "weak underbelly," and plan to use this to their advantage.

In this scenario that our government has on its books, Mexico is not only happy to aid our enemies, but Mexico is also pleased to show that they have documentation showing our civilian firearm strength along the border. This information is a couple years old (they stopped getting the list after their state basically failed two years ago), but Mexico is happy to show that these records they do have show that the previous (Obama) administration was able to significantly reduce the border resistance strength through systematic efforts (bans, registrations, progressive confiscations).

Again, I don't really think this would happen (I have a pretty level head), but someone (hopefully multiple someones) in our government is supposed to be thinking like this so we don't make decisions like this that would have national security implications, no?

 

[Texan Scott]

The "invasion resistance strength" of Texas is indeed a very closely guarded secret... so closely guarded, in fact, that we don't share it with the state government.

I hear they've tried it differently in some other states... then again, I've heard some of them have regretted that.

Realize of course that right now Texas is watching ALL its borders.

 

[buckhorn_cortez]

He's not my friend anymore, so I really can't call him, but he told me that he routinlly drove into Mexico with no border checkpoint. He had no reason to make it up, impressing me takes a lot more than that.
Like I mentioned he was one of the cheapest people on Gods green earth, and if there was a way, I would bet he knew of it. It's only about 5 years ago that we had been in contact, as he was telling me that he did a lot of business in Mexico, "then the part about driving straight in", I asked him several times how this was possible, he insisted he did it all the time.
Now this guy is a snake, he was also working on selling armored SUV's to wealthy Mexicans. I am sure they weren't Taco dealers.
If there was a way he would know it.

Then I guess he get's an A+ for breaking into Mexico. A dubious distinction at best, since there are three bridges across the Rio Grande to cross into Juarez and all you have to do is drive across any one of them to enter into Mexico.

 

[Old Fuff]

The problem in crossing in or around El Paso is understandable, but if you drive on west to the eastern Arizona area (not to mention New Mexico) you will find that in most places the river is dry as a bone, and fences won't even stop wildlife. :banghead:

 

[2ifbyC]

This, from the country who knows where all of their Drug Cartel Boyz live....but won't do a thing to go in and arrest them?

That’s because if the pólice went after the DCB, heads would roll; and I mean literally.

 

[Cosmoline]

If such a registry existed, what would they do with it?

Sell it to the cartels so they can go rob the gringos.

 

[Thermactor]

They're for open borders, but blame us for illegal arms trafficking through the very open borders they advocate for.

 

[Sav .250]

Open borders. Well,almost and now this. They have a better chance of getting all their "Huddled masses" to come back .

 

[JRH6856]

It might be well to study up on R2P. What is R2P? It is the "Responsibility to Protect" that is the basis for the UN policies regarding human rights, and the US policies regarding terrorists in other countries. This article by Rosa Brooks is a good read on the subject.

After reading it, think about how R2P might be used as an excuse to target gun owners that might be perceived as a threat of some kind.