So tell me why I should leave Phoenix, AZ for Boise, Idaho

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Can't blame you for wanting to get out of Phoenix, I have never been to Idaho but if I had the choice I'd choose it over Phoenix any day. In other words Phoenix to me is :barf: I try to avoid going there at all costs.
 
"So what are the "nice" parts inside of town, and what are the "lesser" parts I should avoid and not get an apartment near?"

Boise has one oddity that no other cuty has I have ever been in. There is no bad part of town. Strange at that seems, there is no divider like north/south, east/west like St Lois, KC, ElPaso have. There are just pockets of low rent, gov't subsidized housing that seems to collect much of the riff raff. Seriously, you can have a trailer park on one side of the street and 350k McMansions on the other. It is too funny like that. Mostly, Garden City leave a bit to be desired, anything near BSU, old parts of the bench, and some of the north end. Most every place else is fine.

Avoid Canyon County if you can. Not becuase it is bad, but the drive just plain sucks when the freeway becomes a parking lot.
 
Expect 250,000 for a decent house in town, 150,000 in one of the remote towns with an hour drive every morning to get to work.

Umm, wow. My house cost 550,000 and it takes me over an hour to drive 10 miles to work. :banghead:

I guess I better start looking for a place in Boise...
 
Thanks for the info so far, keep it coming if there is anything to add.

I don't plan on buying a house just yet. It will be an apartment for starters. Is the "near BSU" just not renovated as much since college kids don't usually care? I see there are some apartments east of BSU about 2 miles right on the river that I wouldn't mind...if I can find the names so I can look them up and see them first. Anyone know? They are on google earth with dark bluegrey roofs if I recall. Living near a stocked river would be too good to be true.

I basically plan on going to Boise for 3 years while I get my student loans paid for by the company (well, the max they are willing to shell out for lol). If I like it I will stick around, if not I can always move on.
 
There are massive apartments down by river but they will cost you. Unless during rush hour, nothing is greater than 15 minutes if you are in the main part of town. Ya, the BSU area is more traffic/parking than anything, ball game days really suck down there. Save some cash for a bike, I am planning a 400 mile ride tomarrow, our area is perfect for them.
 
"I have heard and maybe confirmed here that property values are out of sight. Hollywierd types buying up everything."

I don't know about "out of sight" but we paid 76,000 for our little 1200sqft two car garage, two bed, one bath humble abode 7 years ago. We were just offered 150k this spring. Things are sure going up, but not too bad.
 
Kidding on the square is the saying -

Kidding on the square is the saying -

I don't really get what you mean. Maybe it just didn't translate over text, but Ben Avery and Rio Salado are generally packed when I go. Are you joking are serious. I know there is close to a million people in the metro area of Boise, so you could either be joking or serious based on that.

Mike "Duke" Venturino did a piece a long time ago about how it's too late to move west and do what he did - and he's a whole lot younger than I am.

Boise is enough of a blot on the landscape that folks who live a fair distance away wouldn't drive toward Boise for open land hunting and fishing - shooting and blasting but have to get ever farther away - one decent indoor range folded and was absorbed by a chain but there is a tension between old timers who have access to land, a place to shoot, and newcomers who don't.

Folks haven't done enough to develop ranges - and recreation - while they could because too many could say I've got mine and I don't care about yours so as the convenient places to shoot go away there will be little to replace them.

There are many otherwise pleasant communities that run to a lot of gray days (there are people who work in metro Seattle and commute by air from Boise) - Boise at least had escaped that but pollution is worse all the time - and there are many communities in Idaho with a history of really bad pollution be it from pulp mills or (agricultural) industries that put out so much smoke the visibility on the highway goes to zero at times so I'd hope it could be avoided but it flat goes with the territory.

The Internet will give plenty of historical weather data, not only for Boise but for Missoula and Bozeman and all the rest, but again the historical record will be changed by people - heat that wasn't so bad because it really was a dry heat may not be so dry in the city of the future and who knows what global warming will do for summer and winter climates.

As for neighborhoods the Statesman crime reports (Boise newspaper and TV stations are available on the web) will give some indication of low rent and high crime districts mostly quite a ways down the highway from the state capital but crips and bloods style violence is extending - presumably from Boise - into Ontario and Baker City in eastern Oregon - hard to escape it completely anyplace - folks I know who would routinely leave their keys in the car don't anymore. Time was I not only didn't lock my front door I couldn't - although the store bought door had a cut for a lock I didn't bother to put one in - now it's deadbolt all the way.

There is no Utopia. Neal Knox was the first person I ever heard mention "bring your own money towns" - what I think of as one third millionaire lone eagles and two thirds food stamps - I think he was speaking of Prescott. Jack O'Connor liked Lewiston ID - although Lolo did a lot for shooting sports in that town and the man is dead and the shop closed - among other reasons because except for occasionally making a scene at school board meetings and such Jack O'Connor got out of town a lot.

Hard to find an unspoiled place with jobs.
 
We just moved here from Eastern Montana in May. We came for my wifes work. Boise has certainly grown since the last time I was here. I haven't as yet had the chance for any hunting or fishing here. I have only been a resident for 4.5 months and have been busier than I want to be. This part of the world is nice. There is alot to do here for someone your age. Its a town that has grown faster than the shoes it was wearing. The traffic can be a wreck at times. They are doing a ton of construction here. I haven't found any outdoor ranges here yet but have found plenty of gun shops. It only takes a short drive to get out of most of the "heard" so to speak. But again I am still in the research phase of living here. I will have to say that it is one of the cleanist cities I have ever been in. And it is still a fairly family oriented town which is nice for us since I have two small kids. It does kind of pain me to see all of that beutiful farm ground being turned into new sub-developments. But thats one of the prices of expansion. As far as the weather goes, I think its nice. After living in Montana most of my life I'm actually looking forward to a winter here versus the MonDakota region I was living in last year. I recall it hitting 30 below only once last winter. Not to bad. Every place has it's pro's and con's. Just try to pick the one with most pro's. Good luck.
 
Boise Idaho

I live about 50 miles west of boise. I moved here about 14 years ago from upstate New York. It's the best thing I've ever done. Parma Gun Club has long range events and IDPA (One of the best in the area) SEnd me a private message with your mailing info and I'll see that you get tons of info about the state and area and can let you know about all the diesel shops in the area.
 
LEARNINGMAN - "I haven't found any outdoor ranges here yet ..."

Learningman, haven't you heard of Black's Creek Range??? South of Boise on Kuna-Mora Road. If you're in west Boise, just go straight south on Cloverdale Road to Kuna-Mora Road, turn left (heading east), and drive until you see a large sign on the left that says, "Black's Creek Range." Rifle, pistol, shotgun, etc. It's a first rate range.
Call 342-9614 and get the hours/days its open.

On that same road before Black's Creek Range, is a marvelous trap and skeet range and club.

As for Boise, I moved here about ten years ago from Los Angeles. The traffic in Los Angeles makes the traffic here look like a slow day on a Sunday afternoon.

Crips and Bloods???? Huh??? Maybe a few "wannabees" but there are very few black people here, and almost no crimes committed by blacks. Most of the crime around these parts originates in Nampa and Caldwell, and a large majority of that is committed by illegal aliens.

In the ten years we have been here, the largest snowfall we've had here in Boise was about nine inches on Christmas Day, in 1999. Other than that, a couple of inches at a time, a few times in winter, and it melts off quickly. The past two years I've not even bothered to get my snow shovel down.

Are there some "yuppie libs" here? Of course. So far, travelling around quite a bit, I've not seen an area where there are not some. But overall, Idaho is a conservative State.

I can get in my truck and be in good elk/deer country in about one hour. Same with upland game.

I like it here.

L.W.
 
Compared to California, Boise is great, compared to what it was not so much

Compared to California, Boise is great, compared to what it was not so much.

The only firearms connection here is the short barreled shotgun that got one reported gang member time in Club Fed

Idaho AG Wasden, others call for renewed gang prosecutor funding
By JOHN MILLER - Associated Press Writer
Edition Date: 09/04/07

Law enforcement agents, including Attorney General Lawrence Wasden, on Tuesday called on state lawmakers next session to continue money for a special assistant U.S. attorney post created this year to help lock up gang members in federal prisons outside Idaho.......

Hired in February, Special Assistant U.S. Attorney Christian Nafzger's job is to work with counties and cities on cases involving gang members .....

Some law enforcement officers in the region where gang violence has been concentrated in recent years say the prosecutions have already been successful in disrupting gang activity, and making it clear to potential gang members that officials are serious about cracking down on gang-related violence.

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Over the last year, state officials have passed tougher anti-gang laws and formed special police task forces. Law enforcement agencies have been creating a database of known gang members, and Nampa police say their list contains at least 500 names.
IdahoStatesman.com

For another perspective on moving to Idaho take a look at Clayton Cramer (sometime gun writer and Shotgun News columnist) and his blog on how nice it is to move from California to live among the wildlife on a ranchette in Idaho.
 
Could care less about the charges, but make sure you have your facts right. As far as your political opinions well that's why we have a 1st Amendment. Ciao.:)
 
Outlaws,
You better go check someplace else or wear HIGH boots if your gonna walk through some of what has been written here.
Some is right on, and truth, some is out in left field to say the least.
I am not gonna get into it any deeper than I already have. I will say that the little ladyand I are both over 50 both Idaho natives both lived in Boise at one time or another and have relatives there now, and were there today. We have lived in other area's of the West, CA, OR, Wa, and Ut. but are primarily SW Idahoans so kinda know what wre talking about.
Good luck
 
Cougfan,

I can tell you don't live close to the Hank. I have never heard it called the Henry's Fork River, I have heard it called the Hank, North Fork, North fork of the Snake, Henry's Fork, the Big Suck, and it was better than a kick in the balls but never the Henry's Fork River.

Armed Bear,

It was 110 in Boise this summer A LOT, that is far from the 80's.

Outlaws,

I have heard California is really nice, the weather is nice, the ocean is very nice, you can have guns, you can get a boat there, What more do you want?

That's where I am going to move when I have enough money.
 
Hey Checkman... sorry if I offended. I didn't occur to me that I would be the only one that would find a "family values", anti-gay, Idaho Senator who was arrested and plead guilty to soliciting homosexual sex, funny.
 
LIBERALGUNNUT -" ... Idaho Senator who was arrested and plead guilty to soliciting homosexual sex, funny."

You still are spewing false information.

Craig plead "Guilty," to "Disorderly Conduct," a misdemeaner.

Big difference.

Try to get it right, next time.

L.W.
 
OK, enough of Sen Craig. PLEASE. We have a good thread going attepting to give good info to a member. Anymore and I am sure the mods will lock it and that won't do anyone any good.

As for the OP. Anything specific you are still needing to know?
 
Anything specific you are still needing to know?

Ya. How is Nowhere, USA?

Apparently Boise is fairly popular and its unlikely they will give it to me. They will give it to me on the sheet of paper with all the nice places that sell the program, but then when you actually go to ask for it, they tell you that its already full.

:fire:

So now I told them a few other places I would like and that I want yes/no answers for each of them.

I was 110% sold on Boise. Now I am bummed out. I know there are other diesel places out there, but I want to stick with this outfit.

Thanks for all the info, I will no doubt be back with another city later unless they project an opening next summer. I have until the 20th to make a decision.
 
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