Soft Shooting 9mm Powder Choices?

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Hi Everyone!

Down in the city and going to head by my favorite reloading supply to see what they have.

I've been reloading xtreme 9mm 124 grain flatpoints with tightgroup with good success.

Wondering what other powders might be a good match for a soft shooting 9mm load to do al little experimenting.

Shooting out of a shield.

Thanks in advance!
 
If you can find it, W231 is a great light to medium load for plinking, target and such. I use 4.3gr W231 on Xtreme 124gr HP at 1.120 oal.. In a shield it may feel snappy but there will be very low recoil. I shoot it in a all steel STAR 30M 9mm and in a SCCY CPX 2. Two distinct feels, but both are light loads.:D
 
Good luck on your search. If you see either imr 7625 or 4756, I would snatch them up. You wont regret it.
 
Wsf is an extremely accurate powder, low recoil also. High volume it fills the cases well and clean. Jp
 
Titegroup is already a good powder. On the fast end of the burn chart for 9mm, low charge weight and the ability to load down without fear of a squib. While I don't think you'll find a powder that is noticeably better, there are some powders that are just as good. Accurate #2 and WST come to mind.

I wouldn't recommend Green Dot for what you are looking for. I've been through an 8 pound jug of it reloading for 9mm and 45acp. Large flake powders that don't meter well in small quantities are a poor choice compared to the other powders that are available.
 
I also use W231/HP-38 for 9mm plinking and range ammo. I charge 4.0gr with 124/125gr LRN bullets and 4.4gr with 124gr FMJ bullets. Both loads are accurate for me and soft shooting. Hodgdon lists a Max charge of 4.4gr with the lead bullet and 4.8gr with the jacketed bullet so the loads I listed are nowhere near the top end...

If you can find the powder give them a try. You will probably like them too.
 
yup WSF if you can find it
or Herco (good luck there)
ive been using 3.3gr 700x under a 124gr TC in a 9mm 1911 with a 10lb spring
brass falls at my feet
groups at 3"or so at 25yds 2 handed standing

im sure power pistol would be really fine as well
 
3.9/4.0 grs Vihtavuori n320 with 124gr bullets.
Soft shooting, way cleaner than light load 231/HP-38, burns cool, single base powder, well-behaved and not 'spikey'. goes through powder systems as good as 231.
"Max load" is about 1100FPS with a decent linear load range.
Been using this powder in Comp. for many years.
 
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the tips.
I didn't make it over there before they closed today, but ill be back In a few weeks and will see if I can pick up some W231 or WSF, or some of the others mentioned.
I still have some tightgroup and Accurate #7 I believe. Just looking to experiment with some different powders. Not trying to make Minor, just experimenting with a practice load, and possibly something light for my wife.

Thanks again.
 
I ws using 3.9 grains of 7625 behind a MBC 125 TC. about 1000fps functions fine in my Tauras PT99 and my Springfield subcompact. Soft shooting.
Bad news is 7625 is going away.
with the same bullet I have also used
3.6 Bullseye
4.2 Unique
4.3 4756
3.9 Universal Clays
all these are on the lighter end of the spectrum as the paper targets I shoot for fun don't care.
 
IMO go with light loads of faster powders because the faster powder can be downloaded better than slower powders. Most of the slower powders don't burn well unless they are up near the top of their range.

Again IMO AA#7, Herco, Power Pistol, SR4756, WSF and the like will not give you what you want.

Light loads of W231/HP-38, Red Dot, WST, AA#2, Clays, Bullseye and the like will serve you better if you're looking for a lower recoiling 9mm round. Lighter bullets will produce lighter recoil too so you might want to load a 115gr bullet instead of a 124gr bullet or heavier.

I'm a little surprised at some of the load suggestions that you were given. It seems like the authors didn't read the "soft shooting" part.
 
thefish said:
looking to experiment with some different powders. Not trying to make Minor, just experimenting with a practice load, and possibly something light for my wife.

xtreme 9mm 124 grain flatpoints ... shield.
For me, Titegroup and Bullseye produced more accurate target loads with plated 124 gr bullets than other powders but it will all depend on what powders you can pick up - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=7266869#post7266869

For lighter recoil target loads that will still reliably cycle the slide of the compact Shield, you may do better with relatively slower N320/Green Dot/W231/HP-38/WSF.

Yes, Green Dot won't meter as well as Bullseye/Titegroup/W231/HP-38/WSF but if you are not shooting matches, that won't matter as well. And keep in mind that most slower than Unique/Universal/PowerPistol burn rate powders may require high+ range load data to produce accurate loads while W231/HP-38 and faster burn rate powders can produce accurate loads at mid range load data with 124 gr plated bullets.

It will all depend on what powders are available in your area. Many like No 2 and No 5 for 9mm and Zip as comparable substitute for W231/HP-38. Heck, I now even like Herco for 9mm - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=745656
 
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Herco rocks. For some reason I never want to load it even though it's the powder in the most accurate load Ive ever made.

BDS, I like your new signature line about the voices (at least I think its new.). Pretty funny.
 
Potatohead said:
Herco rocks. For some reason I never want to load it even though it's the powder in the most accurate load Ive ever made.
OK, I will come clean and confess.

I started out reloading with Clays/WST/W231/Universal/HS-6/WSF and soon added Bullseye/Titegroup/Universal at the recommendation from other match shooters and other powders later like N320 at Walkalong's suggestion.

Until the shortage of 2008, I was kinda "snobbish" about larger flake powders that did not meter well. When I tested Green Dot as a possible alternative to W231/HP-38, I was dismayed at metering variance greater than what I was spoiled from small flattened ball powders which was less than .1 gr. BUT, Green Dot worked well for 9/40/45 and produced adequate accuracy with lighter target loads, particularly for pressure concerning 40S&W.

And OMG, when some in my group buy was curious about Promo as potential cheaper alternative for Red Dot, I was less than enthusiastic about trying a powder that looked like corn flakes. But after the first 8 lbs of Promo, I was an advocate of Promo.

If it weren't for the shortages, I would have remained a "snob" towards flake powders and would have never tried powders like Green Dot, Promo and more recently Herco for 9mm and 40S&W. Now, when someone ask about powders for lighter recoil practice 40S&W loads, I suggest W231/HP-38 but also mention Green Dot and Herco.

Potatohead said:
I like your new signature line about the voices (at least I think its new.). Pretty funny.
Thanks. Yes, it's new. I was shopping at Hobby Lobby and when I saw that, my wife just gave me that "look" and smiled and I had to added to the signature line. :D
 
A while back I posted about "kitty poot" 9mm rounds with accurate No2. It can also be loaded more powerfully, in fact Western now even has 9mm +P data.
My light loads had the brass just coming out and falling at my feet.

Russellc
 
I have found no load, that makes minor PF, that is as soft as 3.1 of N310 with a plated 147 @ 1.160". 3.3g of N320 or tightgroup tie for #2.
 
My go-to load for my P89 is 4.3 gr W231 under Berry's 124 gr FPHB. Reliable feed and ejection, accurate, comfortable to shoot, and keeps the brass within reach.
 
Red Dot, Green Dot, and Bullseye. I haven't tried 231, AA#2, or PB yet, but they are in the right range to be good ones.

If you were shooting heavier bullets, Unique or Universal might be good for softball loads.
 
jmorris said:
3.1 of N310 with a plated 147 @ 1.160". 3.3g of N320 or tightgroup tie for #2.
Agree. Heavier 147 gr bullet will produce softest recoiling loads and 3.5 gr of W231/HP-38 will do well also but OP is shooting 124 gr plated bullet.
 
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