SOG aegis tanto

[Tenn870]

Just got my sog aegis tanto, its a beautiful knife and razor sharp. Its awesome and I'm glad I got it but I'm not sure it's worth the $60 I payed. For a high quality knife, the blade wobbles alot. Anyone got comments on this or other sog knives.

By the way it opens really quick.

 

[Yo Mama]

Pictures?

 

[conw]

I kind of admire SOGs and CRKTs and such from time to time, but as far as I'm concerned there are "old generation" knives and "new generation" knives. The new generation knives like Spydercos, many Kershaws, many Benchmades, and some Cold Steel, offer great lockup, zero or negligible "wobble," and good to great blade steel at $60 or less. The old generation ones just make too many compromises in materials and generally have poor lockup, wobble, etc. These include pretty much every CRKT I've handled. Or else they charge outrageous amounts ($100+) for what the new gen guys pump out all day long at $40.

Yes, CRKT and SOG and the like can produce good knives, but not the kind that makes you say "I got this for $XX?!?!?!"...and sometimes, very unfortunately, their knives are grossly disappointing (sorry, I have NO idea why anyone who had handled a Spydie or Kershaw would be interested even slightly in a CRKT M16 series...just seems shoddy to me).

That was a bit of a rant, and I respect that some members here may disagree, nothing personal.

 

[GunsAreGood]

I recently purchased a SOG Flash II and have had no problems at all. No blade wobble to speak of. I am fairly impressed with the knife. It is razor sharp and seems very sturdy. I will post any changes in its performance in the future.

 

[shockwave]

These include pretty much every CRKT I've handled

Had a chance to pick up a CRKT "Hitchcock" model a few weeks back and found it to be extremely well made with good steel and fittings. Given that CRKT sells knives made by various designers who contract to them, quality may fluctuate depending on the line and/or specific blade. And how can you call Cold Steel a "new generation" company? Maybe it's a better idea to judge each blade on its merits and leave it at that.

 

[Tenn870]

It's a really nice knife and I have only one complaint, a slight blade wobble.

 

[conw]

Shockwave, missed your reply, sorry about that.

Point taken, I didn't know CRKT was a conglomerate distributor similar to CS.

And how can you call Cold Steel a "new generation" company? Maybe it's a better idea to judge each blade on its merits and leave it at that.

I don't mean new generation as in a "new company," which by definition would exclude Kershaw and Spyderco since neither are new. I'm just talking about what companies have been able to provide by and large for a given price point (the lower-end price point of $50-60 or less). And you should take a look at Cold Steel's very impressive under-$35 lineup if you disagree with my definition on that basis.

I say new generation because it is literally new technology in production (and yes, perhaps some outsourcing in many cases) and materials that allows excellent knives to be produced so cheaply...that's all.

 

[hso]

conwict,

Neither Cold Steel nor CRKT actually own any manufacturing facilities. They both have knives of their design made in plants owned and operated by others.

Kershaw and Spyderco have knives made in manufacturing facilites they own and in third party factories building their product under contract to them.

Very very few knife manufacturers actually produce all their own knives in their own factories. Almost all of them outsourced some models. Sometimes they were outsourced to other American manufacturers (some were even "competing" knife companies), some to Japan, Germany or Italy, some to Taiwan and, more recently, some to China.

Very few knife manufacturers are conglomerates. Fiskars/Gerber, Kai Corporation/Kershaw, and Alcas/Cutco/Kabar are the only ones that immediately come to mind, but I'm sure that there are others.

 

[Sniper X]

Is it chisel shaepened? I love Tantos for what they are good for, but man, Ill never buy another chisel sharpened Tanto for a utility blade again. I would buy one for a SD knife, but would not use it for anything else.

 

[conw]

HSO, my bad on the mis-use of the word. I meant "conglomerate distributors" as in companies that do not own their mf. facilities. I just wasn't aware CRKT was 100% like that, regardless of what it's called. I was aware CS was (and I am pretty happy w/ most of their products, never gone above $50 though) and that other companies (Spyderco comes to mind of course) do this partially.

The key word is really just quality control, I don't care who makes it or where.

 

[Slamfire]

The key word is really just quality control, I don't care who makes it or where

You got that. As for brands, just search on the Menu Pet Foods and see that this one pet food maker was producing dog food sold under 53 brands, and cat food sold under 42 brands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_Foods

There are actually very few manufacturers out there, but there are lots of brands.

So why should anyone have to buy a knife manufacturing plant when there are facilities and people available for use and looking for work? If you subcontract with a good manufacturer, that plant will have a Quality Control Department. The quality levels are negotiated along with the price. The people in the plant get paid, they go home and feed their kids, and you get a good product, or you walk. The subcontractor knows that and wants repeat business.

I was just looking at dishwashers. Do you think Kenmore makes its own dishwashers? Do you think Walmart owns its own vegetable canners?, owns its own refinery and bottles its own oil?

A bud of mine operated a canning line in a motor oil cannery. In ancient times, oil came in cans. He said every brand of oil, except for Penzoil, came off his line, all filled by the same 30,000 gallon 10W-30 tank.

The people who paid more for a bright red label on their oil can thought they got more for their money, but they should have spent less and received the same stuff inside the dark green can.

 

[vynx]

Tenn870 if I paid $60 and the blade wobbled I'd contact the seller and ask for a replacement thats a defect.

I have 3 CRKT folders and they all lock up nice and tight.

They are a contrail, a B.U.L.L and a Crawford Kasper all under $30 on sale and well worth their price.