Something woke me up in the middle of the night

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Maui19

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Not long ago, I was awakened in the middle of the night. The remnants of an alarm sound were ringing in my ears. I couldn't quite place the alarm. I looked around the bedroom, and my golden retriever was at full alert looking the upstairs hallway (the other dog, the sheltie, was nestled comfortably against my wife). Hmmm. A quick look at my alarm panel told me that all doors and windows were secure. The clock said 3 am--prime time for a breakin, IMO. So *** was going on. The alarm sound I had heard was vaguely familiar, but I couldn't quite place it. I grabbed my tac flashlight and started to check out the house.

The first thing that became clear to me was that it is really, really hard to think clearly at 3am. I just couldn't get my brain going to process the info I had. I went downstairs to check things out, leaving my Sig and Mossberg in the vault. Did I mention how hard it is to think clearly at 3am?

So if it wasn't my security system, and it wasn't a smoke alarm, what the heck was it? Everything was locked up tight downstairs. It occurred to me that perhaps it was a car alarm, so I turned off the security system and went out into the garage. Unarmed. Did I mention how hard it is to think clearly at 3 am. The garage was fine, but it quickly occured to me that if a BG wanted to draw me outside, a car alarm was a great way to do it.

So what the heck was going on. I went back to bed, but was still working the problem. Then I remembered the CO2 detector. Hmmm. I checked it out and sure enough, that was it. The CO2 alarm had gone off. So then I had to figure out if there was, in fact, a CO2 problem. I concluded that the detector was malfunctioning.

The next morning, I thought the whole thing over. Althought we have a pretty good plan for most threats, I clearly didn't have this one covered. First of all, any nighttime anomoly needs to be considered life threatening until proven otherwise. That doesn't mean calling the cops right away, but it does mean being armed while problem solving. Secondly, I wasn't fully versed in the operation of the CO2 detector. If I had been, I would have recognized the alarm and been able to problem the alarm much more efficientlly. Lastly, you just can't count on being able to think clearly at 3am.

Anyway, I thought you guys might find this interesting.
 
I went downstairs to check things out, leaving my Sig and Mossberg in the vault.
You need to get in the habit of taking them out when you go to bed (or get home).
 
We have a pretty throughly thought out plan, and we believe keeping them in the vault at night is the way to go for us. Now, leaving them in the vault when something is going on in the middle of the night is just plain stupid. Our plan has been modified accordingly. :eek:
 
I am, of course, a complete moron

Welcome to the High Road. I was just reading through some threads and thinking we needed a few more truly complete morons here. Such a plethora of incomplete morons, not nearly enough complete ones.

:neener:

I have found thinking at three in the morning to be substantially harder than usual, and I'm a moron too. What I have found works for me is to lay in bed for a while concentrating intently on any nosies in the house, and imagining the worst thing it could possibly be. About three minutes of this creates enough adrenaline to get my brain working (as well as it's ever going to).
 
Carbon monixide will significantly impair your ability to think, especially when you were asleep. It binds firmly to the hemoglobin in your blood, preventing it from accepting oxygen, and therefore reducing the oxygen that gets to your brain. You may very well have had excess CO in your house. You should check it out again.
 
Why do you have a carbon monoxide detector in your house? The only place I've heard of using them is in aircraft cockpits where the heating system sucks in air over the exhaust pipes/manifold.
 
Why do you have a carbon monoxide detector in your house? The only place I've heard of using them is in aircraft cockpits where the heating system sucks in air over the exhaust pipes/manifold.
Under NFPA regulations, they are required in almost every new construction house in the country. And they are required in all rental units, nationwide.
 
Malfunctioning gas burning appliances can emit CO and kill everyone in your house.

Sources of CO include the following:

Unvented kerosene and gas space heaters; leaking chimneys and furnaces; back-drafting from furnaces, gas water heaters, wood stoves, and fireplaces; gas stoves; generators and other gasoline powered equipment. Incomplete oxidation during combustion in gas ranges and unvented gas or kerosene heaters may cause high concentrations of CO in indoor air. Worn or poorly adjusted and maintained combustion devices (e.g., boilers, furnaces) can be significant sources, or if the flue is improperly sized, blocked, disconnected, or is leaking. Auto, truck, or bus exhaust from attached garages, nearby roads, or parking areas can also be a source.
 
Every winter, when it gets cold, there are many stories of families killed from carbon monoxide poisoning. From what you might ask? Using BBQ grills as heaters in the home.

Malfunctioning water heaters give off CO also.
 
More people die from carbon monoxide poisoning in the United States each year than from any other kind of poisoning. CO gas kills about two hundred twenty people each year. More than five thousand are taken to medical center emergency rooms for treatment.

Carbon monoxide gas is called the silent killer because people do not realize it is in the air. Carbon monoxide has no color. It has no taste. It has no smell. It does not cause burning eyes. And it does not cause people to cough.

You just wake up dead. Ironically, the more air tight and energy effecient your house the greater the risk.
 
CO is a product of inneffecient combustion. Basically, the flame isn't as hot as it should be.
Not quite a malfunction, in my eyes, but it definatly shouldn't be doing it.
CO is quite deadly, and even in small amounts is dangerous. It gives you headaches as well as listed above.
CO detectors should be maintained as much as smoke detectors. =o
 
CO detectors are a GOOD thing.

Last year a guy in Chicago came home a little drunk in his car to his townhouse. He was 50 or so. He pulled into the underground parking spot in the garage, left his car running, and went upstairs to bed. :eek: Guess what, three people were killed by CO that night. (Yes, he was one of them.)
 
Why do you have a carbon monoxide detector in your house? The only place I've heard of using them is in aircraft cockpits where the heating system sucks in air over the exhaust pipes/manifold.

From a retired Firefighter GET ONE, they are as or more important than smoke detectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fire, oil furnaces, gas appliances etc all give off CO. That will kill YOU AND YOUR FAMILY faster than most anything you may think of.

Sell your CCW to get one as odds are the CO will kill you before any violent threat.
 
From a retired Firefighter GET ONE, they are as or more important than smoke detectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I was a kid in elementary school in the 80s, and they taught us fire safety, stop drop 'n roll etc., they always mentioned fire extinguishers & smoke detectors, but never carbon monoxide detectors. My college dorm rooms in the 90s also had smoke detectors, but no CO. Seems odd, if CO detection is as important as smoke.
 
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Hey Creep! (Hmmm... that didn't come out exactly right!)
You are right, smoke is the big killer. Very few people live long enough in a fire to die from the fire itself. Smoke is first and formost the big enemy. But right after that, CO is the leading source of poisoning in the US.
I've got them in my house and my rentals. But you can bet I got smoke detectors too.
Third_Rail, the NFPA Chapter 720 covers building code regulations for new construction and rentals. You're right, it is not actual law, but every state that I know of uses the NFPA for the basics of fire protection in its building codes.
 
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When I was a kid in elementary school in the 80s, and they taught us fire safety, stop drop 'n roll etc., they always mentioned fire extinguishers & smoke detectors,

You are right. You are a Kid! :D

Smoke detectors became big time in the 80's, fire safety is ever evolving. CO detectors came into being in the 90's and have become much more common and required by building codes.

Guess what is the big killer in smoke or products of combustion? CO

Smoke detectors became big life savers and CO detectors will match them.

Since the inception of both in the city I worked it has taken life loss way down.

Neither I nor my family WILL sleep anywhere that does not have both.

Don't have $25 bucks to buy one SELL A GUN Sell you TV, Sell your computer, and it will not be yours if it’s you or one or all of your family or shoot less until you get one.

Trust me shoveling bodies into bags is not a firefighters favorite activity. Sounds bad but what else can shock you into reality.

If you are into survival this IS the first step. Please don't take offense.
 
In reference to leaving a car on and CO damage, it happened here in GA last week. Reportedly a businessman came home late, was on a conference call gathered all his stuff and went into the house from the garage. Forgot to turn the car off, serious illness in three adults and a small child, don't know if they recovered or not.
 
FWIW, you can train yourself to wake up instantly and be more-or-less in full command of your faculties right from the get-go. I worked as a paramedic for a number of years, and as a result of regularly being woken up in the middle of the night and expected to function right off the bat, I still bolt wide awake. Which is inconvenient considering it's usually a housecat or a car alarm that does the trick these days, but that's neither here nor there...

At any rate, I imagine a totally commited, not completely sane "tactical" enthusiast could train himself to become instantly fully awake with a year or so of concientious effort...:scrutiny:
 
CO detectors are only needed if you have natural gas appliances. In an electric-only home or rental unit, if you have CO, then something is on fire, and you'll find out about it soon enough. My apartment is electric only, and there's no CO detector. My parents' home used to be electric only, and when they had gas fireplaces installed, they bought a CO detector.
 
At any rate, I imagine a totally commited, not completely sane "tactical" enthusiast could train himself to become instantly fully awake with a year or so of concientious effort...

You learn it pretty quick when someone breaks into your house. Since then I wake up at every little noise, and I awake very quickly.
 
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