Somewhat of a Newbie...

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fiVe

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I found the definition for "Cruiser Ready", but I need a clarification on some things...

1: I see the phrase "leaves springs relaxed in the acton" and I understand that, but what about the spring in the magazine? Is spring tension an issue there?

2: Is a pump shotgun better than an automatic because it is less likely to jam? Cheaper? Both? Neither?

3: Where can I get a good deal on a home defense shottie?

Thanks for your help.

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1. Maybe. Some have never changed their magazine springs, over the course of many years; some change their magazine springs annually, because that's the the magazine manufactuters recommend.

2. Neither. Mine is a pump for reliability; as long as you remember to pump. (!!!)

3. As of late I've given up on "new" weapons. Not because of any problem with them, but I've found that lightly used is a better value. I've gotten some VERY good deals at my local pawn shop and local dealers "used" rack lately.

It depends, greatly, on for what it is you're looking.
 
Well, Five, I'm a newbie to shotguns, too, and I'm looking for a HD shotgun for the same purposes. Saw your thread on the break-in--thank God they got the bastard. Here's what I've found so far (keep in mind I'm a newbie who doesn't yet own a shotgun).

The research I've done says that pumps used to be much more reliable than early semi-autos, but that the difference in reliability is minimal now. That said, pumps are cheaper.

In general, you want a 12 gauge shotgun with an 18" or 20" barrel with a reasonable magazine capacity. There are several options, from what I've found. I'll go ahead and assume you want a pump to save money and have a nice HD weapon ASAP for your family.

Remington 870 and Mossberg 500 or 590 are excellent pump shotguns, from what I've read on here and elsewhere. Both can be had for a reasonable price new, but a great price used.

The Remington is more expensive, but some argue it has a smoother action. The Mossberg has an ambidextrous safety that some view as better, and it's cheaper and comes with more accessories/well equipped out of the box than the Remington. Both have a wealth of aftermarket parts available (stocks, forends, sights, etc.). I've seen new Mossbergs for around $250 and new Remingtons for $300. Used, people have reported paying less than $100 for a Mossberg 500 at a pawn shop.

Another, and cheaper yet, option is the Maverick 88. Maverick is owned by Mossberg, but it's assembled with less expensive parts (possibly Mexican made). They are rumored to have good reliability and can use Mossberg barrels. They can be had with a large magazine capacity (7+1, I think), and they cost about $100 new in box. It seems the people on here are big fans of them for the money.

As far as new vs. used, I've found that used shotguns are a good place to start since the above mentioned models (Remington and Mossberg) have service lives of hundreds of thousands of rounds and replacement parts are readily available.

Where to buy: I'd start at pawn shops, from what people have said. I located one around here that sells guns (not all of them do around here), and the guy told me he has 20 or 30 Mossbergs and Remingtons. Call pawn shops in your area (they're usually in the shady parts of town around here).

Pistol grip vs. stock: Go with a full stock as people have said the pistol grip only option is hard to hit the broad side of a barn with and difficult to control. Having handled both, I totally agree that the full stock just points better and is easier to control.

Hope that helps.... (from my EXTREMELY limited knowledge since I just started inquiring into shotguns). Try using the advanced search option and look for threads started by "Dave McCracken" with "101" in the title. He's outstandingly helpful. :)
 
Well Juna , for a newbe to shotguns you seem to have learned fast .

If strictly for home defense you may also consider a 20ga. They are typically lighter and easier to swing and control in a tight envirnment (my opinion). The majority will likely point you toward a 12ga. (even though they won't get caught arguing the 20 ga. can't do the job)

Used shotguns are a bargin in many area's of the country - particularly older weapons with fixed chokes & or 2&3/4 inch only chambers. In my area the older used pumps can be had for $100 to $150 (including Remington and Mossberg) at my local gun shop.

When used for HD the 3 and 3&1/2 inch chambers are not needed. The shorter barrels can be had for reasonable prices and if your on a tight budget the original longer barrels can be cut back and a new bead installed . Some shorter barrel guns are also sitting in the racks just waiting to serve.

The most prefered 12 ga. pump seems to be the Remington 870 with the Mossberg 500 likely coming in as number two.

There are other brands of course that are very servicable guns as well. One of my favorite is the old Hi-Standand 200 series pump. They typically have a very smooth solid action . The old Stevens 520 and 620 models were John Browning designed, built well and have take-down capability. I would personaly avoid the newer Stevens guns like the model 30 and 67 however.

And the list goes on with Winchester, Ithaca, etc.

Then there is the auto shotgun which I think Juna addressed well.
 
fiVe,

I picked up a 12 ga. 870 with a 28" barrel some months back at Dick's sporting goods for around $249 plus tax. The gun shoots like a dream (even though its owner doesn't really do it justice). The great part about it is I can use it for HD (which was my original purpose for getting it) and it also shoots some pretty mean trap. I do intend on getting an 18" barrel for it though. I hope I never have to use it for HD but if it comes down to it I think it would be much easier to move about with a shorter barrel in close quarters.

Good luck and good shooting.

Falcontech
 
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