No , not face to face
phone to phone for both , and too many E-Mails to list on top of that .
I used to care more , now I have reduced myself to accepting that I don't matter . Pitty sad too
....I understand supply and demand very well , and that is pretty much there excuse to me on both issues of CCH and trigger pulls .
It isn't like it used to be Allison , where you could call up Navy Arms and get Val Folgert to actualy answer the phone and speak with him about stuff , orders , advice , congratulate him on makeing such a nice product for you and your voice went somewhere . Even if nothing happened to change a companies product , back in the day at least you could voice it and it would be heard . Not anymore . Even calling the reps and owners back then of the Firearms they sell , like Val with Navy Arms and such , you knew the idea you just told them would not just get hung up after they hung up the phone , they would pass it on to the Italian Bosses .
Now Jason of Tradtions that Ratdoggy has good repore with is nice and all, but he is customer service Rep , has little input to making QC issues go away . That is mostly what were stuck with now though . They don't want people calling them am sure . I haven't seen anywhere on Piettas or Ubertis Websites in years that your feedback was essential to thier livelyhoods , hee hee hee hee .
On CASS many years ago , the guy from Pietta used to frequent the site and listen in to ideas . Whether anything ever changed I think it did, their QC has gone WAY UP . But that tis about as much participation I have ever seen form an actual owner or importer besides Val Folgert. He cared ! But, he's
dead now , rest his sport loving BP soul .
So anywayz , I do think both companeis have come a long way , Palmetto killed themselves though , Euroarms puts out some nice stuff too , I have some, its very nice, but some have it and its crap . It's a crap shoot, and it pays to be able to tinker on these guns reguardless . Look at the prices, they are dirt cheap compaired to an American Colt . I think you get what you pay for and more with Italian replicas . Will they get any better ? Keep shooting them , promoting BP revolver sports and they just might, supply and demand man , that's what drives this Pony .
When I had the oportunity to buy Vals old personal Tyron from a very good freind of Vals , I jumped on it with both feet and hands . To me that rifle stands for everything this sport and its firearms and importers are all about .
Everytime I look at that rifle , I know those were the days , and these are not . Pitty sad too . I ordered my very first Colt Uberti Flat Top Target Model "P" from Val over the phone . Those were the days indeed . I spent over half and hour talking with that man and he had all the time in the world for me .
That tis why I think if someone were to open COLT Black Powder back up into production that knew how to run it and didn't have a crappy nasty east coast attitude and still produce beautiful firearms as most were done till they went under , they would have Market Share exclusivley ,eventually
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I would pay the money for a good American gun . And yes, they would have to drop any Importing parts crap form Italy too like they were doing . There is enough of a demand from Cowboy Action Shooting and us little guys too to warrent another firearms maker of BP Revolvers for sure now in my mind at least. I would be the leading customer I say
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Cheers, Good Day , Das Jaeger
