Springfield .45 ACP

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Does anybody know if the Springfield XD .45 acp has a fully supported chamber, so it can shoot reloaded ammo? May be a dumb question but I didnt know.
 
Im not really sure, my brother was talking about it and it kinda got me confused because I was about to order alot of reloaded FMJ ammo but didnt want to hurt the gun.
 
Well I can tell you this: I pulled the barrel out of Glock 21 and the barrel out of my sons XD45 Service model, stood them side by side and dropped a Remington 230gr Gold Sabre in the breech of both. Other than the obvious difference in length and the lugs, they looked just alike. Oh, the rifling are different. The shells / casings are supported the same. I still haven't figured out why people say the the GLOCKS aren't supported. But anyway, I hope that helps. P.T.
 
You're thinking about Glocks, which have unsupported chambers and KABOOM problems with reload ammo.

Your Springfield of any sort will eat whatever you feed it.
 
I shoot with some guy's who use Glock's & reload their own ammo. As far as i know they haven't had any blow up. Are they in danger?:uhoh: :eek: :cuss:
 
I've shot a couple hundred thousand rounds of reloads through several of my Colt's Govt. Model .45ACPs ... and never a problem. (I also have always loaded mine up to factory ball specs.)

Mine just keep on truckin'.

L.W.
 
As far as I know it is only the Glock 22,23 and 27 that aresubject to Kabooms because of partially supported chambers (and not everyone is convinced that's the cause). The .40 S&W generates around 32000 to 35000 PSI depending on the load and that's quite a bit compared to a .45ACP that is spec'd by SAAMI at 22,000.

Firing reloads in a Glock chambered for .45ACP isn't really a problem as far as I know. Personally I've never heard of a kaboom caused by a partially supported chamber (doesn't mean it hasn't happened just that I've never heard of it happening).

Shooting reloads out of your XD is not a problem (unless the XD uses polygonal rifling and you shoot lead - but that's another discussion entirely).
 
Are they in danger?
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Probably not, but you never know with handloads. Particularly if you didn't load them yourself.

A buddy of mine has a Glock 19. He used to buy bulk reloaded 9mm ammo at gunshows. Last summer he experienced two case failures with the reloaded ammo. In both instances the gun did NOT go kaboom, but the cases split at the base just in front of the rim and he got a face full of shrapnel and burning powder out of the ejection port. He was wearing shooting glasses and no harm was done, but he no longer shoots gunshow reloads in semi-auto's.
 
Doesn't matter

If your re-loads are loaded to standard pressures, it doesn't matter if the barrel is "fully supported". The case web is strong enough to withstand the standard firing pressures inside the case.
 
You're thinking about Glocks, which have unsupported chambers and KABOOM problems with reload ammo.
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This statement is a myth perpetuated by the internet. For some reason, Glocks have been singled out and labelled as having unsupported chambers.

While the fact the Glocks have unsupported chambers is true, it is also true that other guns do also, including some 1911s.

As long as your reloads are not too high pressure, and you aren't using lead bullets, you are not going to have a problem with your Glock.
 
Could someone please explain what they mean by an unsupported chamber? I have owned handguns for 25+ yrs and it's the first I've heard of it.:confused:

Thanks
 
Unsupported chamber = the case is surrounded completely by metal. Meaning, you don't rely on the strength of the brass itself to contain the pressure.

.45ACP is comparatively a low pressure round. Even in +P loadings, it's mild compared to 10mm and .40S&W. .40S&W has a (relatively, compared to the 10mm) weak case and very high pressure, so blown out cases are more likely with such a design. 10mm, due to its stronger case, has a larger margin of safety.

1911s (Colt Government model and similar) in .45ACP aren't likely to self-destruct unless there is a MAJOR overpressure (like a double charge). Usually, only ramped 1911 barrels (found in .38Super and some aluminum frames models) are considered fully supported. But, reloads within responsible margins aren't considered a problem in any of them.

Short answer: feel free to reload for any 1911 model, just don't try playing the "how hot can I get it" game.
 
I don't know how Springfield would know, but any reloads put through it completely voids your warranty with them. Just putting it out there, maybe every manufacturer says that.
 
i shoot reloads through glocks. even lead ones. if you keep your gun clean i can confirm that i am alive and well after shooting the dreaded reloads in a g17 and a g30. though careful with bullet profiles on g30's they dont like SWC.

keep it in the range of the load books and be attentive and your chances of a problem are the same of you winning the lotto.
 
Demiurge said:
I don't know how Springfield would know, but any reloads put through it completely voids your warranty with them. Just putting it out there, maybe every manufacturer says that.
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Dang Demiurge, I was just gonna tell 'em that, and you beat me to it.

Just picked up my new XD-45 on Saturday, and was reading all the paperwork that came with it.

Along with the 'do not point the end with a hole in it at yourself' it mentioned SEVERAL TIMES that using anything other than 'clean, dry, made by a name-brand company' ammo voided your warranty.

They don't list 'name-brand' companies, so I'm not sure who qualifies...

Reloads verboten! :eek:
 
A non-fully supported chamber means the the bullet is not fully supported in the chamber relying on the case webbing to take the punishment. If you take a look at most Glocks in .40, take the barrel out of the weapon and place a round in the barrel you will find that the chamber ends about 1/8" before the first indentation of the extractor grove in the bullet and the case webbing is exposed. Pick up ejected .40 rounds from a Glock at the range and notice the bulge at the bottom. Now, constant reloading of this ammo causes the metal of the bullet to be bulged then forced back into shape over and over again and can cause failure of the bullet. Seeing as the bullet isn't full supported, this causes the Glock KaBoom if the round has been reloaded or double charged.

XDs in every size and caliber have fully supported chambers. Set a bullet down into them and the bullet falls all the way down to the first fold of the extractor groove leaving the case web inside the chamber where it belongs, not hanging out waiting to explode.
 
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