Springfield Armory Made in the USA?

[ChefJeff1]

I thought Springfield Armory 1911's were made in the USA. I'm considering 1 for my first 1911 and my first .45. http://redstradingpost.com/auctions_AA.php

 

[Baba Louie]

Brazil.
Still and all, good 1911's.
Just don't believe they're mfg in the US ala Colt, Kimber, S&W etc.
I do believe that one or two of SA's high end 1911's are forged in Brazil yet finished (read final machine work, fitting, i.e. mfg'd) here in the US... tho I could be wrong.

 

[Skywarp]

Made in Brazil



But then again, so was Adriana Lima. Google Image Search her and see why made in Brazil isn't such a bad thing.

 

[Old Dog]

Once again, please acquaint yourself with the "search" function. SA 1911s ARE produced in the USA, although SA frames are manufactured by Imbel -- in Brazil. The remainder of the parts are made here. The pistols are put together in the good ol' USA. Springfield Armory is USA-owned, headquartered in USA, and as the company notes, the "Oldest name in firearms manufacturing in the U.S.A."

As far as factory production 1911s go, SA is considered in the "top 3" of current makers, along with Colt and Kimber.

 

[Crosscut]

Skywarp,

10-4 on Adriana Lima.

 

[Nightcrawler]

Imbel uses good steel in their guns. They make the only other forged FAL receivers still in production. (DSA makes them also).

I wouldn't worry about that. Heck, even Armscor (Filippines) uses good steel. STI has a gun called the "Spartan" that're Armscor frames/slides put together by STI.

 

[marlin.357]

Oldest Name, but...

"Oldest name in firearms manufacturing in the U.S.A."

May be the oldest name, but one of the newest companies. Couldn't let you slip that by

 

[Handyman]

Springfield Armory is in Massachusetts . The sad part is that MA. residents can't buy their handguns because of the rediculous gun laws . You can only buy an older used gun . :banghead:

 

[marlin.357]

"The" Springfield Armory is (was) in Massachusetts, but Springfield Armory USA is located in Geneseo, Illinois. The Springfield Armory closed in the 1960's and Springfield Armory USA "resurrected" the Springfield Armory name in 1974. The only connection between the Springfield Armory and Springfield Armory USA is the name.

 

[ROAshooter]

Handyman

Sorry dude...SA is in Illinois...

 

[distra]

SA is in Illinois...

which has just as rediculous gun laws and no CCW I just purchased a Springer Micro compact 1911 with Novak night sights. Can't wait to shoot it!

 

[iamkris]

As odd as it may seem, there are actually several well known gun companies in Illinois...go figure

• Springfield Armory
• Armalite -- ARs 'n such
• DSA - of FAL fame
• Les Baer -- of 1911 and AR fame
• Richard Hiene - of sights fame
• Model 1 Sales -- AR parts
• White Oak Armament -- maker of superb match ARs

 

[Quintin Likely]

I think the higher end Springfields, like the Professional model, are all 100% USA.

 

[foghornl]

Hey, I'm a regular guy....made in Brazil "Adriana Lima"...WOW!

Now, back to your regularly scheduled thread...

I have 2 SA 1911's...a 4" Champion, and a GI-45. Both are solid guns, work exactly as designed. IIRC, both are marked "Geneseo, IL USA" or words to that effect.

 

[Onmilo]

The Springfield Mil-Surps and the High capacity .45s are made in Brazil, lock stock and barrel.
The semi custom .45s are all assembled and fitted in Illinois using a combination of different manufacturers parts but the frames and slides are still Brazilian investment castings or forgings depending on the type of pistol involved.

The Springfield XDs are still made lock stock and barrel in Croatia.

Armalite has introduced a pistol this year that is made in Turkey and it is based on the CZ-85 only much, much better fit and finish.
Really well made pistol worth looking into but expensive for being produced in a third world country.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

Google Image Search her and see why made in Brazil isn't such a bad thing.

DON'T DO THIS AT WORK!

I knew the XD was made in Croatia but didn't realize the 1911's were produced in Brazil. I wonder if they are near Taurus's 1911 plant?

 

[DogBonz]

I may be wrong, but...

I think that I remember hearing that their high end guns, such as the TRP, were 100% made in the USA.

 

[OpFlash]

So Armscor's are from the Philippines? Does that include the Rock Island Armory 1911s? I just bought one of those.

 

[ChefJeff1]

ok, ok, I'll still get one one of these days. If everyone just used the search button there would be no forum, just a database. Besides, maybe someone new has something to add that wouldn't be in the search results.

 

[RNB65]

SA 1911's are made by Imbel in Brazil. The only SA 1911's made in the US are some of the custom shop models which are hand assembled in the US using parts imported from Brazil.

The pistols are put together in the good ol' USA.

I believe that is untrue. Almost all SA 1911's are fully assembled in Brazil. Only the most high-end custom shop models are assembled in the US.

 

[AndyC]

As mentioned before, Imbel is a well-respected name amongst the FAL fraternity - no issue using their stuff at all.

 

[MikeH]

So Armscor's are from the Philippines? Does that include the Rock Island Armory 1911s?

Yes.

Filipino gun nuts (I use this term with the utmost respect and affection) take pride in that the .45 ACP cartridge was developed based on experience fighting Moro warriors in the Philippines.

 

[nplant]

Adriana Lima not withstanding, Brazil has a large amount of slave labor. Yes, that's correct, humans in bondage doing work for other humans for nothing. I doubt very much if there are slaves involved in the production of pistol frames, but in the agriculture arena, it is a force that is still in vogue. Some Brazilian beef and produce are cultivated and harvested by slave labor. It's hard to say how much, and it's hard to say what other industries may also use it.

 

[rodinal220]

Does SA Forge,cast,MIM or mill(from scratch) their own parts??I don't think so.They are a large gunsmithing operation that subs out for parts,they are assemblers.While they may be manufacturers in the eyes of BATFE,folks now days want to know exactly what they are buying.

The SA 1911s have always been made by Imbel in Brasil.They are an excellent product.I remember buying the gunsmith "parts in a bag" in the mid eighties.As correctly stated the XD line is a Croation design and has been floating around for years before SA bought the rights to sell it here in the USA.

I like SA products but know what you are buying.They do try and push "made in America" thing.I once questioned one of their reps at a SHOT show about their "NEW" M1 rifle(Garand),rep stated it was ALL new and that they made every part.Folks in the know that the rifle is made up from surplus USGI parts and after market stock(Boyd),barrel(Wilson),receiver(Breda/Beretta).
I sprung the trap and queried the rep about the obvious USGI contractor markings on the rifle.He again told me that the SA meant Springfield Armoury and they(The New SA) made the parts.

 

[Handyman]

I alays thought the Springfield Armory in Mass. still made guns . The place is national historical / museum now .
I stll can't buy Sprinfield armory handguns because they aren't Mass. aproved .