Springfield M6 Scout

[BSA1]

@BSA1

The scope that I'm getting is the same style and size (for the most part) that they originally sold with this rifle. If I end up getting a .22 hornet insert my range just went north of 75 yards quite a bit. And where I'm likely of being in a survival situation (Rocky Mountain) type of terrain getting close to a deer might be hard to do all of the time.

You are going to try to take a big deer down with a varmint round? But actually in such a situation taking a deer is not really practical due to spoilage of the meat. Rabbits, game birds while sitting on the ground and other lessor game are the best choices.

Just a thought but how well does a 410 Slug perform on deer size game?

I was watching “Life Before Zero” (I think) and one of the characters shot a couple of game birds while they were on the ground with a Ruger 22 LR Semi-auto handgun.

I would choose a rimfire 22 (I would seriously consider the 22 Magnum) over the .22 Hornet. Depending on the range shotguns can tear up small game.

As well as the reason for light gathering when it gets close to dusk. I really don't want anything electronic that I have to depend on (even with the rediculous amount of battery life),

I agree.

I know as long as I don't bang the scope around it will perform.

Yep practice and getting to know the gun. And a scope does add another degree of flexibility if the rifle is up to the task.

And with regards to where is it going to get stored, the rifle came with a custom zippered case that is very nice actually (I'll take pictures), that will fit it all in it snugly. The case is kind of heavy so I might have to have a lighter version of it made for being stored in my 5.11 bag to cut down on a little weight.

Sweet. Everything is a trade off in bug. These little guns have a lot of appeal.

 

[LAGS]

@ BSA1
The scope base I am going to make will be attached to the top of the rifle Barrel near the Breach.
On the right side will be two Pivots, like hinge pins.
The adapter plate will be attached to the scope, and have corrisponding pivot holes on the right side to slip onto the fixed pivot pins.
There will be a catch lever on the left side of the mount that when releases will allow the scope to Hinge over to the right out of your line of sight.
I had a similar Weaver mount on an old Marlin 336 and worked great.
The Base plate is attached to the top of the Barrel, so movement in the Break open action does not effect the scope zero.
I will use a Compact 4x scope, and have a red dot mounted onto its own Adapter plate that can interchange onto the rifles Base Plate, and retain a reasonable zero.
But the rifle will also have updated Fixed sights like a Firesight front blade, and a better than standard Savage leaf sight, and possibly a folding sight like a 10/22, or off a Marlin lever gun.
Now , as far as batteries for the Red Dot. they will be in it, and I would hope you would be able to be rescued before it ever went dead.
And the rail on the front Forend. You will most likely have a Mini Mag Light anyway, so why not have rail mounts attached to it so you can install it on the rifle if needed.

And Yes, all the parts for the scope mount have to be custom made, same for the Rail, Sights and trigger guard.

 

[ROCK6]

Congrats (I've always wanted the stainless version!). I’ve had my Scout for a while and it’s a great little gun for the designed niche. Mine is .22LR and I added the original scope mount but with an Trijicon Reflex optic (12.5MOA). The tip of the triangle is zeroed for the .22LR and I use the entire triangle for the .410. Slugs have never been accurate enough for me, but the buckshot rounds have been quite impressive to about 20-25 yards. I used mostly #4 and #6 for small game/birds.

Biggest “small game” was a 50 pound beaver I put down. If used with a little hunting skill, it can bring in game all day.



ROCK6

 

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@BSA1

Depending on the survival situation, yes there are situations where I would take a deer either with the .410 or .22 hornet. If I was caught out in the backcountry during the winter, I don't think I would have to worry about spoilage, I would have plenty of time to eat it. However, much of this exercise is an exercise of what if's that will probably never happen, but is good to think about.

I can think of many other animals in my area that the .22 Hornet (which as pretty good ballistics and power for it's size) that the round would be perfect for at a distance (i.e. mountain lions, foxes, coyotes, jack rabbits, etc.). Here is a good description (.22 Hornet) on the .22 Hornets capabilities, I think it would have no problem on a smaller fawn or yearling deer below 100 lbs. with the right shot placement, obviously all of this in a survival situation.

In regards to the see through scope mount, I just installed the mount without the optic and it seems that it will work fine for the .410 sight picture below, just depends on how much the 20mm objective gets in the way, but that is why I went with a 20mm, to allow for the most picture below. The low buttstock situation for the scope will hopefully be alleviated with stock bag with velcro risers.

In regards to the .410 slug on deer, just search google there many accounts of .410 slugs taking deer, this is the least of my worries especially in a survival situation.

Thanks for the dialogue on this, I appreciate talking this through as it helps me make decisions.

 

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@ROCK6

I've seen your M6 somewhere else I believe on the web. Nice to know you are a member here on THR. I've always wanted to ask what sling that is you have, I've been looking for one that would carry a few .410's and yours always seems of good size and quality. I think the website i was on showed your M6 and then you and your son (maybe) holding the beaver you killed with it. That was a big beaver! Please feel free to edit your post to include the beaver pic.

I've always been holding out for a stainless version, but just before I found this I resigned myself to take whichever M6 comes available at a good price. Thanks for sharing, that's a nice M6 especially with that Trijicon on it (the trijicon even looks like it matches the parkerize color on the M6 perfectly) and I'll definitely remember you if I have some questions about the M6.

 

[ROCK6]

I've seen your M6 somewhere else I believe on the web. Nice to know you are a member here on THR. I've always wanted to ask what sling that is you have, I've been looking for one that would carry a few .410's and yours always seems of good size and quality. I think the website i was on showed your M6 and then you and your son (maybe) holding the beaver you killed with it. That was a big beaver! Please feel free to edit your post to include the beaver pic.

I've always been holding out for a stainless version, but just before I found this I resigned myself to take whichever M6 comes available at a good price. Thanks for sharing, that's a nice M6 especially with that Trijicon on it (the trijicon even looks like it matches the parkerize color on the M6 perfectly) and I'll definitely remember you if I have some questions about the M6.

Yeah, that would be me! Man, that was a few years ago...the boy is almost as tall as me!



We weighed the booger and it was just over 50 pounds if I recall. The funny thing is I was able to sneak up on him to within a dozen feet. He kept going in and returning to snack on the bank and every time he went under, I snuck closer.

The sling was a regular rifle sling, I think designed for .30 caliber rifles which is why it holds the .410 shells so well. Without digging it out, I think it was Butler Creek, but it's been almost a decade.



The Reflex sight does match well. I have two and one needs to head back for a tritium replacement; it just turned out to be a good match with my M6 Scout. Thanks again and glad you were able to finally snag one.



ROCK6