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Springfield XD DAO???

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by airdale, Sep 5, 2010.

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  1. airdale

    airdale Member

    Jun 10, 2010
    Haven't posted alot here but I just saw the comparison chart for pistols and saw the S/A XD listed as DAO. I've also seen it listed as DA from Buds and others. I may be missing something But the XDSC I own can't be fired without the striker in the cocked position. To my mind that makes the Pistol a single action only firearm. There is no decocker on this gun, you have to have a round in the chamber and it must be cocked to be fired. So how can this be anything but a SAO gun?

    Not trying to start a argument I might be missing some fine point about the DA, SA definition. Am I wrong? :confused:
  2. BamAlmighty

    BamAlmighty Member

    Jan 4, 2008
    West coast
    the XD is a SA only gun, the hammerless internal firing pin tends to confuse people.
    Last edited: Sep 5, 2010
  3. oasis618

    oasis618 Member

    Nov 26, 2009
    Tacoma, WA
    But the Glock, while a seemingly very similar design, is in fact DAO. Go figure.
  4. DasFriek

    DasFriek Member

    Jun 5, 2009
    Life was a simpler time before Glock screwed up the definitions of SAO and DAO.
    A Glock may by definition be a DAO, But it shoots exactly like a SAO.
    As far as you and im concerned a Glock and XD act the same way when firing, But internally different things you cant see are happening.
    OOH YEAHH!!!
  5. Quack

    Quack Member

    Jan 31, 2003
    Cleveland, OH
    Glock falls in the DA classification, because the striker is only partially cocked. pulling the trigger fully cocks the striker, then releases the striker.

    the XD is a SA because the striker is already cocked and pulling the trigger trips the sear, releasing the striker.
  6. bigfatdave

    bigfatdave Member

    Jul 13, 2008
    Near Camp Perry
    The degree of pre-cocking of the striker makes the DA v SA designation sort of slippery.

    An XD is almost entirely cocked by the reciprocating action of the slide, my PPS slightly less so, and I don't know where a Glock fits in as far as pre-cock persentage goes.

    Now, if you're talking about the trigger's actions, all most striker-fired triggers CAN do is pull the striker to full cock and then release it, although Taurus has a moving sear gadget that will allow a "second strike" much like a DA/SA gun's ability to just drop the hammer again with another trigger pull. So no, the trigger cannot cock the gun from a "decocked" condition the way a P.38 or most hammer-fired DA/SA guns can.

    So the XD, as far as trigger action, would be SA only, and so would a Glock's, just with a different amount of cocking action.

    This all makes sense when you actually poke around inside, for now just figure out what you want by doing some dry-firing in the shop (take a snap-cap if they're chicken about dryfire) or, even better, hitting a rental range or a pile of friends' guns.
  7. ElrodCod

    ElrodCod Member

    Apr 15, 2003
    S&W M&Ps are listed as DAO by the factory but they're no different than the XDs. IMO, both are single action striker fired guns although there is a very slight camming back of the striker because the sear travels through an arc as it releases.
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