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Springfield XD DAO???

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by airdale, Sep 5, 2010.

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  1. airdale

    airdale Member

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    Haven't posted alot here but I just saw the comparison chart for pistols and saw the S/A XD listed as DAO. I've also seen it listed as DA from Buds and others. I may be missing something But the XDSC I own can't be fired without the striker in the cocked position. To my mind that makes the Pistol a single action only firearm. There is no decocker on this gun, you have to have a round in the chamber and it must be cocked to be fired. So how can this be anything but a SAO gun?

    Not trying to start a argument I might be missing some fine point about the DA, SA definition. Am I wrong? :confused:
     
  2. BamAlmighty

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    the XD is a SA only gun, the hammerless internal firing pin tends to confuse people.
     
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    But the Glock, while a seemingly very similar design, is in fact DAO. Go figure.
     
  4. DasFriek

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    Life was a simpler time before Glock screwed up the definitions of SAO and DAO.
    A Glock may by definition be a DAO, But it shoots exactly like a SAO.
    As far as you and im concerned a Glock and XD act the same way when firing, But internally different things you cant see are happening.
    OOH YEAHH!!!
     
  5. Quack

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    Glock falls in the DA classification, because the striker is only partially cocked. pulling the trigger fully cocks the striker, then releases the striker.

    the XD is a SA because the striker is already cocked and pulling the trigger trips the sear, releasing the striker.
     
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    The degree of pre-cocking of the striker makes the DA v SA designation sort of slippery.

    An XD is almost entirely cocked by the reciprocating action of the slide, my PPS slightly less so, and I don't know where a Glock fits in as far as pre-cock persentage goes.

    Now, if you're talking about the trigger's actions, all most striker-fired triggers CAN do is pull the striker to full cock and then release it, although Taurus has a moving sear gadget that will allow a "second strike" much like a DA/SA gun's ability to just drop the hammer again with another trigger pull. So no, the trigger cannot cock the gun from a "decocked" condition the way a P.38 or most hammer-fired DA/SA guns can.

    So the XD, as far as trigger action, would be SA only, and so would a Glock's, just with a different amount of cocking action.

    This all makes sense when you actually poke around inside, for now just figure out what you want by doing some dry-firing in the shop (take a snap-cap if they're chicken about dryfire) or, even better, hitting a rental range or a pile of friends' guns.
     
  7. ElrodCod

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    S&W M&Ps are listed as DAO by the factory but they're no different than the XDs. IMO, both are single action striker fired guns although there is a very slight camming back of the striker because the sear travels through an arc as it releases.
     
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