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My ONLY difficulty has been racking the slide far enough to eject a live round.
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I've noticed this too. You have to rack the slide back HARD and FAST in order to eject a live round. If you do it slowly you'll probably have a three-point jam. I have SIGs and 1911s and it's very easy to put my weak hand over the top of the slide, rotate the pistol so that the ejection port is pointing down, retract the slide and have the live round fall into my hand. It seems that the XD-S has a very long ejector (or unusually early engagement) which doesn't provide much clearance with loaded ammunition.
 
I have had my XDS for a few weeks now....out of the first 100 rounds, I have had 2 failures to lock back the slide (probably because of my thumbs forward grip) and some pickiness when trying to feed hollowpoint. Its has not had a FTF but I can tell the chambering is not as smooth. I need to try some different hollow points to see what feeds and shoots the best with the XDs particularly
 
I finally had a chance to test out my new Tripp Research springs, they made a significant improvement. Thanks woodwrkr.

I lubed the gun per Springfield's instructions and shot 3 more boxes (150 rounds for a total of just under 500 rounds so far) and had several runs of 4 mags with no failures - (never happened before the new TR springs). The failures seemed to come when the chamber was even slightly dirty (I cleaned the gun 2 times in 150 rounds).

With the new springs, I am considering keeping the gun as a shooter, but since they did not bring my XDs to 100%, or whatever percentage I need to trust it enough to cc it, I'm also considering sending it to Springfield to see if they can tweek it any.

I was shooting plated 200gr swc w/ mixed head stamps....will 230 gr bullets make a difference in reliability?

oh, and when the Xds runs right, it is a tack driver, had several large ragged 5 shot holes
 
slamfirev10 said:
I finally had a chance to test out my new Tripp Research springs, they made a significant improvement. Thanks woodwrkr.

I lubed the gun per Springfield's instructions and shot 3 more boxes (150 rounds for a total of just under 500 rounds so far) and had several runs of 4 mags with no failures - (never happened before the new TR springs). The failures seemed to come when the chamber was even slightly dirty (I cleaned the gun 2 times in 150 rounds).

With the new springs, I am considering keeping the gun as a shooter, but since they did not bring my XDs to 100%, or whatever percentage I need to trust it enough to cc it, I'm also considering sending it to Springfield to see if they can tweek it any.

I was shooting plated 200gr swc w/ mixed head stamps....will 230 gr bullets make a difference in reliability?

oh, and when the Xds runs right, it is a tack driver, had several large ragged 5 shot holes
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I'm glad the new springs helped, what primers were you using? One of the members of XDTalk reports that his XDs won't reliably fire Remington primers. I know from my own testing that the XDs striker mechanism is very weak compared to hammer fired pistols. I discovered this using the pencil test.

I don't think the 230 gr bullets would make that kind of difference but I suppose it's possible.
 
woodwrkr said:
what primers were you using? One of the members of XDTalk reports that his XDs won't reliably fire Remington primers. I know from my own testing that the XDs striker mechanism is very weak compared to hammer fired pistols.
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I've had no issues with Remington primed ammunition, in fact, it's the only ammunition I've shot. If you look at the primers in post #33, they don't look like they were struck by a "weak" mechanism. The hits are hard and deep.
 
Thanks for the reply about bullet weight.

I only use CCI lpp.

I'm pretty sure they were out of battery strikes as they were off center.

I'm going to work up a "carry load" using 230gr Golden Sabers noting which cases feed the best, starting with Rem and Fed cases.

Just a thought: The factory fired case that came with the gun is S&B - is the rim thickness less than other brands so that Springfield's testing would not show tight extractor or breech face angle feeding issues?
 
update:

last week i decided to send my XDs to Springfield for them to fix the ftf, fte ftrb.

1st let me tell you i'm very impressed with their turn around time. i sent the gun on thurs, they received it on monday, and i just signed for it today (fri - returned 1 week and 1 day from shipping date!!!)

the packing list says:

"REPAIR XTREME DUTY PISTOL
FULL INSPECTION
ADJUSTED EXTRACTOR
LUBED PISTOL
TESTED-GOOD"

the extractor is clearly looser. i think an extremely "tight" extractor was part of the problem with my particular gun - thus the tripp spring improvement

the gun is well lubed, not at all like it would be lubed if following the lube instructions they sent or in the owners manual. smells like 3m oil :)

will try to go to the range next week and see if this gun is now carry quality (don't flame me about carry quality)

.....
 
I rented one at the range just to see how it felt.. With my large hands I had to put a death grip on the grip safety to make it fire.. Other than that I liked the way it shot. It was a little snappy but it was a .45...
 
never an issue with my xds--takes everything i feed it. reloads-fmj and lead--no problem. factory--no issues. it's not a target gun and i keep my practice from 3-10yds, so trigger issues are non issues.:D
 
Have had an XDS 45 as my carry gun for several months now. I've put about 2000 rounds through it, without a hiccup. Great firearm.
 
took my XDs to the range today after the trip to SA where they adjusted the extractor.....they should have adjusted it more.

the gun is much more reliable. i put over 200 additional rounds thru it (closer to 250 rounds) and had 7 or 8 ftrb that caused off center light strikes. i reset the trigger and pushed the slide into battery and the light struck bullets all went bang.

with a total round count now about 750 rounds, the gun should be broken in by now don't you think?

the gun is fun to shoot, accurate, perfect size for concealed carrying a big bore, but not carry worthy as far as reliability. i really regret buying this little pistol. i left the range thinking i will trade it on a G19 for my wife, you know something that is reliable and doesn't need 750 rounds of ammo (.45 acp ammo in 2013 $$$$) to maybe reach ccw reliability (which my XDs has not reached yet).

too much time, frustrations and money in this gun. i won't be buying another springfield anytime soon.

good luck with yours
 
slamfirev10 said:
took my XDs to the range today after the trip to SA where they adjusted the extractor.....they should have adjusted it more.

the gun is much more reliable. i put over 200 additional rounds thru it (closer to 250 rounds) and had 7 or 8 ftrb that caused off center light strikes. i reset the trigger and pushed the slide into battery and the light struck bullets all went bang.

with a total round count now about 750 rounds, the gun should be broken in by now don't you think?

the gun is fun to shoot, accurate, perfect size for concealed carrying a big bore, but not carry worthy as far as reliability. i really regret buying this little pistol. i left the range thinking i will trade it on a G19 for my wife, you know something that is reliable and doesn't need 750 rounds of ammo (.45 acp ammo in 2013 $$$$) to maybe reach ccw reliability (which my XDs has not reached yet).

too much time, frustrations and money in this gun. i won't be buying another springfield anytime soon.

good luck with yours
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I just saw an announcement this morning on a recall on the xds pistols. You can go online and find out about it. Apparently you're not alone.

Sent from my mind using ninja telepathy.
 
tnxdshooter said:
I just saw an announcement this morning on a recall on the xds pistols. You can go online and find out about it. Apparently you're not alone.

Sent from my mind using ninja telepathy.
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Both my 9 and 45 XDS are included in the recall and are being shipped out this afternoon. I hope the turn around time isn't very long. I really like these guns.
 
from the SA link above:

Springfield Armory® is initiating this voluntary safety recall to upgrade 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm and 3.3 XD-S™ .45ACP pistols with new components, which eliminate the possibility of a potentially dangerous condition. We want to emphasize that no injuries have been reported to date.

Springfield has determined that under exceptionally rare circumstances, some 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm and .45ACP caliber pistols could experience an unintended discharge during the loading process when the slide is released, or could experience a double-fire when the trigger is pulled once. The chance of these conditions existing is exceptionally rare, but if they happen, serious injury or death could occur.

What should you do?
STOP USING YOUR 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm or .45ACP PISTOL AND CAREFULLY UNLOAD IT!

To begin the upgrade process and for fastest response, click on the Get Started link at the top of the page. On that page enter your serial number and click Next. If your pistol is subject to this recall, you will need to provide your name, address, phone number, and email address. The serial number is located on the frame beneath the dust cover (accessory rail). If you prefer, you may initiate the upgrade process by calling 800-680-6866. If you no longer own the 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm or .45ACP pistol, please advise Springfield of the current owner.

What pistols are involved?
This Safety Recall applies only to:
Springfield 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm pistols - serial numbers between XS900000 and XS938700
Springfield 3.3 XD-S™ .45ACP pistols - serial numbers between XS500000 and XS686300.

This Safety Recall does not apply to any XD® or XD(M)® pistols.

What will Springfield do?
Springfield will send you a return authorization and mailing label, allowing you to return your 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm or .45ACP pistol to Springfield at no cost to you. Springfield will upgrade your 3.3 XD-S™ 9mm or .45ACP pistol with the new components, and return it to you. Springfield will provide tracking numbers so you can monitor the receipt and return of your upgrades.

Questions?
Visit www.springfield-armory.com for further information about this safety recall. You can reach the Springfield Armory Call Center at 800-680-6866. Springfield apologizes for this inconvenience, but your safety is our paramount concern.

We greatly appreciate your loyalty to Springfield products.
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Sending mine back tomorrow morn......:(

At least I can carry my Ruger SP101 though. Time for an old school classy weekend :cool:
 
If it never has been reported, then how do they know it's a problem? I am going to wait until they come out and say what part is actually being replaced here. If it's a simple replacement, then they should be able to send you the part.
I don't like not knowing when something is coming back, there are a lot of guns going in, an how many guys do they have working on this?
 
I got an XDs 45 back in June and the few times I've fired it, I liked it a lot. It's my first Springfield and this is my first firearm recall, ever. I sent it back on Friday. Hope they get it turned around quickly.
 
sent mine back yesterday to springfield for the 3rd time for FTRB FTF (this time post recall)

the lady in "customer service" i spoke to 2 days ago was a piece of work who should never be allowed customer contact, the man who called me back yesterday was pleasant

my xds is not safe for cc.

waiting see if sa stands behind this defective gun or not

(....)
 
Are you still shooting lead when getting the ftrb? I had the same problem with mine using lead reloads. I would have to give the slide a little push to get it to go the last 1/16 th forward once in a while. Has been 100% with any jacketed ammo just doesn't seem to like cast reloads. I don't worry about it they are just for range practice and i know it's good running anything else.
 
thanks for your question/suggestion travisd,

my XDs ftrb are with all types of ammo i have used (FMJ, HJP, plated SWC - factory and my reloads),

i would gladly use only specified ammo if it made my XDs run reliably, and i told SA the same thing - "just tell me the brand of ammo to use and i'll only use that" - SA told me they use a mixture of whatever they can get at the time for their test firing.

if my XDs ran right, i would be singing its praises as its ergonomics and accuracy are top notch, ..... reliability, not so much
 
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