SR45 jam

[mmorris]

I loaded a few rounds of 45 ACP today:

LEE TL452-230-TC over 5.0 grains of W-231, OAL 1.205, CCI LPP & Mixed fired brass.

The fifth round did not go fully into battery and now the slide will not eject the round.

There is nothing in the barrel and the gong rang four times. I think this would have been prevented with more judicious use of my case gauge, but now I need to get the cartridge out of the firearm.

Any suggestions for extracting the round?

 

[mmorris]

The case gauge showed several cases were undercrimped. I lowered the crimp die and those rounds now easily fall out of the case gauge.

From this day forward, all rounds will be gauged.

 

[FROGO207]

I have removed the barrel and put it in a vise after protecting it with some wood blocks. then taken a range rod and gently tapped (if needed) the round out. If you are feeling really brave just try tapping it out (with something soft in the action keeping the firing pin from hitting the primer when things come apart) but with the barrel out there is no chance of the firing pin hitting anything and if it did somehow go off the brass will just fly away in a safe direction. You should not need to really pound anything as the weight of dropping a 6" brass range rod down the barrel will usually dislodge a stuck round by itself.

If you gauge a couple at first and do it periodically throughout the session that "should" be often enough.

 

[Taurus 617 CCW]

This procedure is to be done at your own risk. I used it many times while working at the local indoor range when guys brought in improperly sized reloads.

You need a shop vise, and a thick shop towel, and some lube.

Squirt a little lube in over the chamber area where you can see the exposed brass round. Fold the towel several times and place it over the vise jaws. Open the jaws just enough to get the handgun slide in. The gun will be upside down when removing the round. Make sure the clamped muzzle is in a safe direction and don't touch the trigger! Clamp the front of the slide forward of the ejection port just tight enough so the gun doesn't wiggle. Strike your palm against the back strap of the frame pushing it forward toward the muzzle. If the slide doesn't move, repeat the above with a rubber mallet. That should be enough to get the frame moving on the slide and get your round out. If it doesn't then its time to take it to a smith. I don't recommend placing anything in the muzzle and hammering. You can get something stuck in there and you are placing your body parts in front of a loaded gun.

 

[mavracer]

I'm gonna try to describe this.
Put your right thumb behind grip and left thumb in trigger guard wrap fingers around slide (slightly forward) and squeeze with both hands you get a lot of leverage this way and I've usually been able to clear most stuck cases.

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

Ah, the Makarov dance. So named during the ammunition shortage when people would see 9mm Makarov on the shelf and not know the difference between it and normal 9mm. That caused locked guns up tight at the range all the time.

Simple fix: Place rear sights on edge of bench so that the firearm is hanging muzzle down. Check to make sure no toes are in the way. Karate chop the back of the grip right at the base of the beavertail.

 

[mmorris]

Thank you all for your suggestions.

ClickClickD'oh's suggestion, being the least accessory dependent, was the first method I tried.

Bingo.

The "stuck" round cleared the gauge nicely, and others of this batch also jam. I increased crimp about 1/4 turn and they eject OK manually.

This gun seems to have a tight chamber

 

[Reefinmike]

Thank you all for your suggestions.
The "stuck" round cleared the gauge nicely, and others of this batch also jam, so I've got to check for other causes.

It may have passed a wilson case gauge but it got stuck in the case gauge you should be using- your barrel.

The crimp on the one round you show appears to be fine. You dont want the case digging into the bullet. You just want to remove any case belling.

When I loaded 45 that was my load. Lee 230 LTC alox lubed with 5gr hp38. I had to load mine a little shorter to fit my glock and 1911. I believe I used 1.171"

 

[mmorris]

I had to load mine a little shorter to fit my glock and 1911. I believe I used 1.171"

The problem was OAL. I took it down to 1.175 and no problem.

These bullets come from a 6 cavity mold, so I guess the bullet I picked to set OAL at 1.200 was "off" in some way. That's my guess as to why some jammed and some didn't.

 

[RPegram]

They also don't like SWC's, at least mine doesn't.

 

[mmorris]

They also don't like SWC's, at least mine doesn't.

Which cast lead profiles work well in the SR45?

 

[RPegram]

I stick with round nose profiles. I have never had a feed issue with this profile. Now, my XDS will eat SWC's all day long with no problem. I've tried shorter, longer and nothing helps for the SR45. There is something about the feed angle that causes the nose of the bullet to jam in the top of the barrel and not slide smoothly. If I try to shoot a full magazine of 10, I'll have at least 3 jams. I do enjoy shooting the pistol because with the RN bullet, it is one of the most accurate pistols I shoot.

 

[splattergun]

The best case gage is your pistol's chamber, utilizing the plunk test. As you have found, a commercial case gage may not match your firearm.
Sizing is also a common reason why some guns don't like a certain bullet profile. An adjustment in sizing, and suddenly a jamming SWC becomes a favorite load.