Starting a shoulder barreled, Savage 110, .30-06AI build.

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Ok sounds like it will be a shooter. Excessive headspace can cause missfires but that would be fine. The gun shop I worked for has a ton of paints and finishes left over, he does not do them anymore. I'll see what he would want for all the stuff.
 
Ok sounds like it will be a shooter. Excessive headspace can cause missfires but that would be fine. The gun shop I worked for has a ton of paints and finishes left over, he does not do them anymore. I'll see what he would want for all the stuff.
yeah let me know, the paint has a shelf life but I'd still buy it if it was cheap enough. headspace on this one is good, factory rounds are crush fit. I'm pretty sure it was a firing pin assembly issue.
 
Let me know which version of cerakote it is if you can. That stuff can be a pain to work with and i dont have a curing oven big enough to bring parts to temp before and after application.
I believe it's the hot cure stuff, he had a big custom oven but sold it. I guess a short sporter barreled action could just fit in a home oven but people just don't have extra ovens. He has a lot of folks of the stencils to. I should ask if he is selling the bluing tanks to.
 
When I was 16 years old, I didn't have a loading press, so loaded ammo on a buddie's Lyman press that had the dies set for his Winnie 70 chamber length. The Savage 110 had a longer chamber, so I experienced lots of misfires and protruding primers. I sent the rifle back to Savage who supposedly replaced the bolt, but they didn't tighten the headspace. I never got the problem corrected until a few years later, when my "wife to be" bought me a press for Christmas (I've still got her). I adjusted the dies according to directions and the problem with the rifle disappeared!!!
 
When I was 16 years old, I didn't have a loading press, so loaded ammo on a buddie's Lyman press that had the dies set for his Winnie 70 chamber length. The Savage 110 had a longer chamber, so I experienced lots of misfires and protruding primers. I sent the rifle back to Savage who supposedly replaced the bolt, but they didn't tighten the headspace. I never got the problem corrected until a few years later, when my "wife to be" bought me a press for Christmas (I've still got her). I adjusted the dies according to directions and the problem with the rifle disappeared!!!
yeah having miss matched ammo is always a fun experience. I need a few more cases to get started with this earnest, but I did set my dies which the 10 or so formed ones I had.

And both your press and lovely wife sound like keepers to me:thumbup:

Okay, placing the rifle on a freezer...are you trying to say that the rifle is "COOL"? Okay I'll say it...It's COOL, but not garish!
Why thank you! that is exactly why it's sitting on the freezer!
not at all because I'm embarrassed how much of a mess my work bench is.....
I'll try keep the final paint on this one more sedate. I do have plans to make my new AR look rather uhhh.....loud.....
 
I believe it's the hot cure stuff, he had a big custom oven but sold it. I guess a short sporter barreled action could just fit in a home oven but people just don't have extra ovens. He has a lot of folks of the stencils to. I should ask if he is selling the bluing tanks to.
I've done it in an old kitchen oven, but for anything longer than about 18"s you have to take the barrel off the action, and doing that just to paint gets old fast.....
 
So finally an update....
Firstly It appears It was an ammunition issue, and it wasnt limited to JUST that one box of hornady. I bought another box of Winchester which had 3 rounds fail to ignite.
At that point I figured Id screwed something up.
Pulled down the whole rifle, checked everything, which all seemed fine. Borrowed a full set of gauges and it gauged out fine as well.
Ordered and installed a new Wolff firing pin spring.
Went out to shoot it early last week with ANOTHER new box of Winchester and again had 5 rounds fail to fire.

The only thing I can think of is that the whole shipment of ammo had something untoward happen to it....is that possible?

Anyway.......

Took the offending rounds apart. Sized, re-primed, and put the powder and bullets back into the cases.

Friday I made it to the range with the random batch of AI reloads i had ready, as well as the re-primed failures. Im happy to report all rounds fired as expected.

So a bit of a range report (sorry no pictures).
I fired 40ish rounds of reloads, 8 federal cases, 12ish winchester, and 15 or so Hornady.
The Federals were something like 10gr heavier, and noticeably lower in capacity, so were loaded with 60gr of RL-23. The Winchester and Hornady were similar in capacity, so were used as to ladder up from 60 to 62gr of RL-23. I probably could have gone a grain heavier in retrospect. ES dropped to low teens at 62, so im curious what 62.5-63 looks like.

Velocity with 62grs was 2910 on avg.

Accuracy was acceptable with everything grouping under 1.25", with some of that dispersion likely caused by shooting prone in the rain.

Im happy with the current state of the rifle, so it got pulled apart and painted in another color scheme. I rather like it, so i may order the gray I need to do this in duracoat. Course, im actually finding that I generally dont ding up my spray paint rifles too badly either, so maybe ill just let this one BE cheap......
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The stocks fleckstone with sparvarnish over the top. its a combo ive used before and ive found it works really well on poly stocks. IF you manage to ding it, you just spray more fleckstone and blend it in with clearcoat, BUT my old .243 wore the same paint for something like 8 years without getting a scratch thru the paint. Well see how the ACE brand enamel holds up, its been drying for only a couple days, but its hard already, well see if it gets any harder. it will still melt off the muzzle no mater what, but thats fine.

Bullets a 178 ELDX
 
That's pretty good for a 178. The 300wsm runs about that speed. I've used the same type stuff on a few beat up sporters I've had, worked out good. I used a bit of the hunters specialties camo paints, they got very hard but took a month or longer to really harden.
 
Using a Bushnell Legend UltraHD 4.5-14x44 to sight, cheap cvlife bipod.....fits the whole "low cost" theme...
Honestly the UHD is the only scope I have thats long enough to use standard rings on this thing, well that isn't already mounted.
The pods been sitting on my bench for a couple weeks...so I guess you could say they fit the "I have it, and I'm lazy" theme.
Now to get ammo and see how it shoots.
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Very cool, Wulf. You make it sound easy enough that I could try making a rifle.:D


Awww! Look it!
Cute little Baby Wulfs!:)
 
Very cool, Wulf. You make it sound easy enough that I could try making a rifle.:D


Awww! Look it!
Cute little Baby Wulfs!:)
Building a rifle really isnt that hard, and I highly recommend anyone interested give it a try.

If you source parts carefully, it's usually a little more expensive than just buying something similar (if they make it), but for the enjoyment of having done it yourself (again IF your interested/want to) it's worth it.

This one actually presented a few more issues than 99% of the other builds I've done.
Not knowing what width recoil lug the barrel was shanked for, it being a .308 going to .30-06AI, and the fact that I still had to crown it.
In a "normal" build you won't have to do that, and on a Savage you won't have to deal a chamber reaming either (unless your me, and buy a 90s shilen on eBay... cause who runs a shouldered barrel on a Savage).

Tools can actually be pretty crude and still give you good results. tho honestly I don't expect anything fantastic, and WHEN I ruin one it won't surprise me.

If anyone wants to try this kinda stuff, especially with a Savage, I'll make another barrel/action vice, and set of vice blocks, and will loan out my Savage tools, since I was just given a second set.


Thank you, and yes the MiniWulfs are cute....I'm pretty sure it's a survival mechanism.
My son is probably the largest hindrance to any project I do. His favorite pass time is wait till I walk away from the bench and grab anything in reach, then run off and plant it in his mother's rose bushes. One day I found all of my screwdrivers sticking straight up out of the gravel, arranged by color of the handle.
Then the other day I was working on my truck, and he sat on me. Every time I stuck my hand out passed me tools till he got the right one.....that cuteness earned him a few bush tools.

My daughter will just sit there and talk to me the whole time, and fetch stuff....it's actually really nice lol.
 
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Im happy with the current state of the rifle, so it got pulled apart and painted in another color scheme. I rather like it, so i may order the gray I need to do this in duracoat. Course, im actually finding that I generally dont ding up my spray paint rifles too badly either, so maybe ill just let this one BE cheap......
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Give this a try, I just used it on my 280AI rifle's camo paint scheme for a top coat (very similar to an automotive clear coat), chemical resistant and it seems like it's going to hold up well. It's a two part system, on the bottom of the can is a puncture valve that starts the mixture, the can is only good for a few days after that though.

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Give this a try, I just used it on my 280AI rifle's camo paint scheme for a top coat (very similar to an automotive clear coat), chemical resistant and it seems like it's going to hold up well. It's a two part system, on the bottom of the can is a puncture valve that starts the mixture, the can is only good for a few days after that though.

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I'll see if I can get some. If THAT works, and I can get it, it might make doing colors on stuff slot cheaper.
 
who runs a shouldered barrel on a Savage
Pretty much just you. :) Enjoy the build!

By the way - I had an intermittent misfire issue on my last 257 Weatherby build and it turned out to be a dodgy bolt head retaining pin that was binding on the firing pin ever so slightly. It wasn’t a mismatched large hole / small hole issue - the original pin was just rough. Rather than dork with reaming it, I just bought a new one off Midway for $4 and called it good. It was a pretty old action, so this gave me an excuse to replace the firing pin assembly at the same time and have fresh and shiny new bolt innards.
 
I don’t have any field use evaluation of how it will hold up but it seems pretty good in the hand.
Be interested to see how it works for you in use, honestly I wanna hear about that whole rig in use lol.

Pretty much just you. :) Enjoy the build!

By the way - I had an intermittent misfire issue on my last 257 Weatherby build and it turned out to be a dodgy bolt head retaining pin that was binding on the firing pin ever so slightly. It wasn’t a mismatched large hole / small hole issue - the original pin was just rough. Rather than dork with reaming it, I just bought a new one off Midway for $4 and called it good. It was a pretty old action, so this gave me an excuse to replace the firing pin assembly at the same time and have fresh and shiny new bolt innards.
that's a interesting idea. It didn't seem like the firing pin was being retarded when it wasn't under tension, but I never took that close a look at the retaining pin.
 
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