state of emergency declared in NC

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Due to the hurricanes approaching the coast, the Gov. declared a state of emergency for NC today. This is required inorder to get Federal aid if necessary.
What does it mean to me? I can't legally carry off my property now.
Stupid law.
 
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It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or possess, off his or her own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-288.7 A concealed handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.11(c)
 
5. Areas of Emergency and Riot
It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or
possess, off his or her own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared
state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-288.7 A concealed
handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas. N.C. Gen.
Stat. § 14-415.11(c)
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I guess I was wrong. :(

However, that is just dumb. No real emergency exists in the state at this point.
 
LOL kinda jumping the gun, they just have it "projected" to go that way at this point.

any one watch the projections of the weather guessers that tried to predict fay?!
 
no where near threat

Yeah, and I live in the middle of the state. Probably won't get 15mph breezes or and inch of rain.
Sounds like we have control freaks in Raleigh.
 
However, that is just dumb. No real emergency exists in the state at this point.
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Certainly not in the vast majority of the State.Mid-Central to Western NC, the chances of involvement are close to Zero.
As said,lots of work to do in Raleigh.So much.Buts that's for another day.
 
Interesting to compare to Virginia.

§ 44-146.15. Construction of chapter.

Nothing in this chapter is to be construed to:

(1) Limit, modify, or abridge the authority of the Governor to exercise any powers vested in him under other laws of this Commonwealth independent of, or in conjunction with, any provisions of this chapter;

(2) Interfere with dissemination of news or comment on public affairs; but any communications facility or organization, including, but not limited to, radio and television stations, wire services, and newspapers, may be required to transmit or print public service messages furnishing information or instructions in connection with actual or pending disaster;

(3) Empower the Governor, any political subdivision, or any other governmental authority to in any way limit the rights of the people to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by Article I, Section 13 of the Constitution of Virginia or the Second Amendment of the Constitution of the United States, including the lawful possession, sale, or transfer of firearms except to the extent necessary to ensure public safety in any place or facility designated or used by the Governor, any political subdivision of the Commonwealth or any other governmental entity as an emergency shelter or for the purpose of sheltering persons;
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Virginia

Virginia Gov. declared state of emergency for Virginia also. I don't know if their laws are similar. We have reciprocity with Va. but that doesn't help here.

posted late. looks like I need to be in Va.
 
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I'd ignore that stupid law. I'm sorry, but in the case of an emergency, how the hell are you supposed to get anywhere if you are trying to leave your home for safe ground? Are you just supposed to abandon your common sense and turn into a lemming? To be herded like cattle by big brother? ***!

The idiots running this *ing country make me sick.:barf:
 
I agree CC

Dangerous weapon or substance": Any deadly weapon, ammunition, explosive, incendiary device, radioactive material or device, as defined in G.S. 14‑288.8(c)(5), or any instrument or substance designed for a use that carries a threat of serious bodily injury or destruction of property; or any instrument or substance that is capable of being used to inflict serious bodily injury, when the circumstances indicate a probability that such instrument or substance will be so used; or any part or ingredient in any instrument or substance included above, when the circumstances indicate a probability that such part or ingredient will be so used.

Looks like NC doesn't tho.
 
I'd ignore that stupid law. I'm sorry, but in the case of an emergency, how the hell are you supposed to get anywhere if you are trying to leave your home for safe ground? Are you just supposed to abandon your common sense and turn into a lemming? To be herded like cattle by big brother? ***!
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Ok, let's come back to reality for a second. Now, I've never had to evacuate due to any type of emergency, but I'd imagine that if I had to do so, making sure that I had a gun with me would be somewhat less important than finding transportation out of the area, finding an aid station, making sure my family was safe, etc.

I'm not saying that having a firearm isn't a concern, but let's not get unrealistic. Yes, there are many valid reasons where a gun would be beneficial in an emergency/evacuation situation, but not being able to have one along isn't going to be the end of the world either.


EDITED TO ADD - Don't get me wrong, I think the law in NC is downright ridiculous too - but when people start doing the "how are we supposed to take care of ourselves without guns!1!!" thing, I gotta say something.
 
Just because it's illegal doesn't mean you're going to get prosecuted for it - it's all in context.


It's a decision for each individual to make, but I highly doubt anyone would give you trouble about it even if they knew. That being said, the law still does need to be changed, but it will not with the current composition of the legislature. It might also be a good idea to write a letter to the AG for an official opinion on CCW and this law.
 
uh get valuables out??

most guns are worth alot. some are not made anymore and are pretty pricey... just like other valuables I'd want my stuff on the way out with me...
Looks like that would be one I'd have to ignore. sorry if that means I'm Larry-lawreaker I guess but my goodies arent getting risked. It takes an extra ten minutes to pack them up and darned sure I would.
 
Kingpin...

Sorry if I'm stepping on your toes here, but...

During the Rita fiasco here around Houston not long ago, I was told by many misguided evacuees that they will never again leave their homes for the safety of the open road amongst the masses.
Keep in mind that ALL of them were packing their usual carry weapons and wished that they had taken the time to arm themselves better.
I personally will choose to provide my own security, rather than depend on the .gov, in any hairy situation.
Of course, that should in no way reflect badly on anybody else's decisions in a time of possible peril.
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Looks like you have yourself a New Orleans law in NC.

Can't transport or EVEN POSSESS your firearm now that the Guv has said the magic word, "emergency?"

Sounds like, if they so choose, the State police can now check-point your car or your person, and rummage around till they find those dangerous firearms!:cuss:

So you're given a choice: don't evacuate, or leave behind ANYTHING that might be construed as a dangerous weapon (baseball bat bad, twisted bag of day-old bagels questionable).

The NRA showed that disarming the law-abiding during a crisis happened in New Orleans, and said it will happend again.

This sounds like a good time to contact your state rep and let him/her know that, in a disaster, you make actually NEED that gun. Time to change that law (NOW), so you don't have to break it later!
 
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Gee, that's a pretty tough sounding signature line ya got there knigpin. Too bad it's all bluster...at least it looks that way when it comes after a post like the #15 post in this thread.
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Look, nobody's "stepping on my toes" here. I don't disagree that it's stupid, or that I'd probably ignore that particular law if I were in such a situation. What I was trying to address was the tone of Loomis' post - which if you'll recall, read thusly:

I'd ignore that stupid law. I'm sorry, but in the case of an emergency, how the hell are you supposed to get anywhere if you are trying to leave your home for safe ground? Are you just supposed to abandon your common sense and turn into a lemming? To be herded like cattle by big brother?
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My issue is mainly with this part: "I'm sorry, but in the case of an emergency, how the hell are you supposed to get anywhere if you are trying to leave your home for safe ground?"

Well, you could do like many thousands in did when Katrina and more recently Gustav did, ad just evacuate. While I'm sure that at least some percentage of those who evacuated were armed, I'd venture that most were not - at least not with firearms, anyway. Again, I could be wrong, but I'm playing averages here. My point being, sometimes it's not that important to have a gun with you. Sometimes it's ok to go without for awhile. Do I like saying that? No. Is it advisable? No. Is it reality? Yup.

That's all I'm saying. Maybe I took Loomis' post wrong, but every now and again there is the individual who seems to rely upon firearms too much, and it just rubs me wrong.

Once again, just my two cents. Take it our leave it, no harm no foul, please remember to tip your waitress after the show, etc. ;)
 
North Carolina law defines a "state of emergency."

Article 36A. - Riots and Civil Disorders. - § 14‑288.1. Definitions.

(10) "State of emergency": The condition that exists whenever, during times of public crisis, disaster, rioting, catastrophe, or similar public emergency, public safety authorities are unable to maintain public order or afford adequate protection for lives or property, or whenever the occurrence of any such condition is imminent. (1969, c. 869, s. 1; 1975, c. 718, s. 5.)
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That said, the state's firearms laws are generally more jumbled than a bowl of spaghetti.
 
I just sent a letter to the AG requesting clarification on what consitutes a state of emergency, whether or not this effectively suspends state CCW, and how prohibited "emergency" areas are determined. I'll post the response if I receive one.
 
We have a state of emergency declared here in VA also. What we don't have are any silly laws that limit my right to carry (open or concealed) during said state.
 
...or any instrument or substance designed for a use that carries a threat of serious bodily injury or destruction of property;...
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That would include automobiles, motorcycles, airplanes, bicycles, or any other mode of transportation for there is plenty of examples where those instruments have caused serious bodily injury and even death.

It's stupid law written by people who cannot think outside the box their tiny intellect inhabits.

Woody
 
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