Stock spacer on Mossberg wood stock...

[AcceptableUserName]

http://www.havlinsales.com/images/2008/oldstylestocks.jpg


I'm looking to add a single point mounting plate and do not want it to increase my length of pull. Removing the black spacer would about compensate for the mounting plate. Is it vital to function? What exactly is it for? I'm not a well versed person as far as stock fit goes. If it goes to my cheek and doesn't stick out a mile I'm happy...usually.


I'm also considering foregoing the recoil pad in favor of a stock plate to reduce LOP. What do you think? I'm worried about the performance of the weapon....any luxuries like whether it hurts a little or not are way down the list. I don't recommend this approach for everyone nor would I expect it but I'm a bigger guy and don't have much of an issue with heavy 2 3/4" buck and slugs. Finding the stock plate itself would be another issue. If anything a smaller recoil pad. The one that's on my stock is the old brown style and it isn't soft at all so I wouldn't be losing much.

 

[rcmodel]

Generally speaking, the black spacer between the wood and a rubber recoil pad is a permanent part of the pad.
It is the hard point the screws hold the pad on with.

The one in your photo seems to be something else, as it appears to be tapered on the top and bottom, like to make up for a stock that got sawed off crooked.

Anyway, if what you have now fits you, the proper way to mount a sling would be with a sling swivel stud screwed into the butt-stock and a barrel nut adopter stud.

For a single-point sling, you want an adopter plate that fits between the stock and the receiver like this.
It does not add enough to the LOP to make any difference.
http://www.gggaz.com/index.php?cat=61

rc

 

[AcceptableUserName]

That's exactly what I'm looking at, RC. I've heard conflicting reports - some say it adds length, some say it doesn't. It seems to me it would which is why I brought it up.


I guess another option is to replace the recoil pad with a shorter version. I wouldnt mind 1/2" to an inch less on the LOP as it is anyway though. It isn't SOLELY to accomodate that rear mounting plate.

 

[1KPerDay]

On the havlinsales one in question, the spacer is just that. It's not part of the pad. It's kind of plastic/hard foam and I can only guess it's mostly aesthetic with the possible benefit of not getting sawdust/crud from the buttstock into the crevices of the pad interior, or protecting the rubber pad from whatever chemicals/stains/sealants in the wood. On a hollow synthetic stock it would act as a flat surface to bear against the interior bracing of the pad so it doesn't collapse/misalign.

Without it the angle of the stock bottom will step a bit to the larger length of the pad, but with your new spacer it would probably be fine.


Another thing to consider is without the pad (or some sort of plate thick enough to conceal the screw heads) the buttplate screws or whatever's holding on your new plate/sling mount will not be below flush. But you're probably manly enough that it won't matter. You should use some spikes or studs like that Judas Priest guy.

{EDIT: never mind; I misread your post... I thought you were considering removing the buttpad/plate altogether or just mounting some sort of steel plate with a sling swivel on it]

 

[AcceptableUserName]

Haha. Don't think I don't LIKE the pad. But I'm just examining ways I can reduce the LOP a bit without permanent gunsmith modifications to the stock. One size smaller recoil pad perhaps? Obviously if I removed the pad I'd want a factory or aftermarket buttplate to cover up the hole and seat the screw heads properly. It would not and could not be the bare wood. Like I said the supplied recoil pad isn't the best anyway. I can use it just fine, but it isn't a whole lot more than a large stock spacer as far as function goes. I could probably throw ona lambsaver half it's thickness and receive more benefit.

Shooting without a recoil pad doesn't bother me tremendously UNLESS I do it for an extended period of time OR I shoot 3" loads. I haven't done it enough to know whether or it not affects the speed of a follow-up shot or not, and that is something that is a concern. I want the gun to be as effective as possible.


And youre right 1k our stock sets look a bit different than the one pictured. There's no white on ours. Just the black spacer and the recoil pad.

 

[oneounceload]

I guess you short LPO folks can edjumicate an old timer like me - why does everyone want to shorten the LOP below what is the optimum? Do you really think an extra inch is going to make a difference going through a doorway? Why would you want to take a gun that fits and make it one that does not?

 

[Youngster]

I guess you short LPO folks can edjumicate an old timer like me - why does everyone want to shorten the LOP below what is the optimum? Do you really think an extra inch is going to make a difference going through a doorway? Why would you want to take a gun that fits and make it one that does not?

For many folks, what's optimum for wingshooting is not the same thing as optimum for tactical style shooting, a short LOP really helps short armed shooters and/or those who have to wear thick clothing or body armor.

It also makes reloading from the shoulder that much easier if you do it that way. I believe "bringing the gun in" another inch or two just plain makes the gun more managable and less fatiguing to handle. Makes a big difference to positively reaching the pump to shorter armed pump gun shooters too.

The shortened OAL is just a bonus.

 

[AcceptableUserName]

The gun, as it is, on the outside of "fitting"...meaning it feels good, but if I could take off anywhere from 1/2" to an inch and a half itd be a lot more positive in my strong hand, I think my shoulder would absorb more of the recoil properly and I feel it'd help me run the gun even faster, if you can picture that. Also, I'd like my gun set up for a smaller shooter if the need ever arose. So I'm looking for that "sweet spot" so to speak. Least of importance but still to be considered is it would just plain be smaller, even if only by a little bit and that's never a bad thing in an HD gun in my opinion.