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Stolen gun accessories, and how shops react

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by FadingSwordsman, Jan 23, 2012.

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  1. FadingSwordsman

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    So, this morning I woke up to a bit of a surprise: My car was all opened up, and a pair of magazines which I keep in the central console were missing.

    Now, I'm a little sad to see the magazines gone, but I had an interesting experience dealing with the gun (and pawn) shops around, when asking them to keep an eye out for magazines:

    A couple gave me a lecture about how they couldn't really prove anything belonged to me, so they were just going to look the other way (To me, at least. When my SO called, they were much more pleasant and complaint with her) I wasn't too upset, I had no markings on the magazines (Lesson to the wise: Scrape your name, number, or sign on the inside or outside of magazines), and left my car door unlocked, which was stupid on my part.

    One of the pawn shops, and one of the gun shops tried to give me a lecture on how now, if they bought any "dime a dozen" 10mm Glock magazines, it would be illegal. They tried to lambast me over the phone, essentially, and one of them even called me back a couple times to try and continue his rant. I certainly know now which shops I will not be buying from in the future.

    On the other hand, all of the other LGSs I called were courteous, pleasant, and helpful. So, if you got a call from me, and took down my name and number, thanks a million. I'll make it a point to get my replacements from those LGSs which weren't condescending on the phone. In fact, I'll make it a point to shop at any of the 12-14 shops that actually were nice enough to take my info down.

    TL;DR version:
    Today I learned:
    • Don't leave gun accessories in unsecure places
    • The police don't care as much as they should, especially if it wasn't a stolen firearm
    • Make unique markings on your non-SNed gun-related objects, which you would be sad to see go. (And, honestly, I could care less if the mags themselves are returned, I would rather see the person who stole them caught)
    • Call around with your LGSs, and ask if they can keep an eye out for you. If nothing else, you discover which ones are worth patronizing.

    Anyone else had any experience with this? Have you been turned off by stores when they're condescending in your hour of panic, when you've either had something stolen or lost it? Anything you've learned that you would want to add to this?
     
  2. medalguy

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    Um, just welcome to the real world. Keep everything out of sight and all your doors locked. Fortunately you learned this without losing anything really valuable.

    As far as the police go, they are so overworked and stressed that they probably wouldn't do anything more if it were a firearm that were stolen. Take the SN and wait to see if it maybe turns up at a pawn shop, and write up a report and file it.

    Really, today a lot of stolen stuff isn't pawned any more. The BGs know that the pawn shop detail is checking numbers and IDs. It's more common to have the BGs go to a gas station and sit around until they see a guy in a truck drive up, then approach him and say they are stuck and have no money for gas, and would he buy a power tool or gun or whatever from them for cash. Quick sale, no one knows anything, unless the unlucky buyer gets stopped at some later date and the SN is run and he discovers it is stolen.

    Learn from your mistakes. At least you know who the intersted shops are now. By the way, what city did this happen in?
     
  3. OARNGESI

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    You gotta see were there coming from how many identicle glock mags are there around
     
  4. FadingSwordsman

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    This was in Albuquerque.

    And I figured when I started it's a pretty much lost cause. I may be in some luck in that 10mm isn't the most popular cartridge, and I can only hope that it gives whoever stole it some sort of trouble while trying to sell it.

    I certainly hope to learn from this. I'm kicking myself because this happened while I was living another house here, too. (My car was unlocked, but there was nothing I really valued in it.) Usually, I'm a fast learner, but it didn't catch the first time, apparently. Occasionally we all need reminders. =/
     
  5. tarosean

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    they have probably already been used in a drive by and a couple hold ups...
     
  6. maskedman504

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    TL;DR more like:

    Lock your car.

    I had a GPS in my truck and $200 cash in the center console; one morning I went out- I left it unlocked- everything was still there, along with a note sitting on top of the cash.

    "You should keep your trucked locked."

    BTW, the stranger locked both my truck doors.

    They are always locked now.

    I still have the note.
     
  7. Chopdoktor

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    If you're driving an 'easy break-in' vehicle like an older GMC/Chevy truck, just be smart and don't leave valuables in it. I always locked the doors on my old '99 s10 Xtreme, and all that got me was a much more expensive damage list: two ruined door skins, as well as two destroyed door latch bezels... Not to mention the $500 in audio stuff that was stolen.

    Basically, don't leave more in your car than you're willing to lose. The ol' pry bar/screwdriver under the door handle bezel works every time, if the target is right. It's better to just keep the car clear of stuff worth stealing, and leave the doors unlocked. Crooks always will usually take the easy way in, sparing you the busted windows and jacked up body panels. They leave empty handed, and your vehicle is unmolested.

    To top it all off, I discovered the break-in the morning after I graduated from college... Talk about a buzzkill :-(
     
  8. maskedman504

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    Pfft, who drives Chevy's? I got a Ford, brother. :neener:
     
  9. iLikeOldgunsIlikeNewGuns

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    I put numbers on the base-plate of my mags, with a T for my first initial. Helps identify 'em from anyone elses, but more importantly, if I ever have an issue with a particular mag, I know that it's mag #x, and set it aside for fixin.
     
  10. Chris-bob

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    Yeah, I would definitely avoid frequenting the shops that were condescending to me. No matter what the circumstances, they should have merely stated what you already knew, that there wasn't much they could do without any identifying marks. Lectures are not needed.
     
  11. TNboy

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    Glad you didn't loose the whole gun. I just thought of this... Some people, myself included, may not want to permanently put their name, initials, SSN, or other identifying marks on a magazine, perhaps because they might want to sell that gun one day. However as a buyer I wouldn't be opposed to buying a gun that someone had permanently attached the serial number of the gun onto the magazines. Could engrave, or even use a sharpie. I doubt most thieves would even bother removing the sharpie writing. Just an idea.
     
  12. Thefabulousfink

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    A big +1 on locking the doors and keeping things out of sight. I had my car parked on a side street at night in the U district of Seattle for about 2 hours. I came back and found my window smashed and the gym bag that I had left on the passenger seat was gone. They got some old running shoes and sweaty clothes, I got a $250 bill for the window.

    I was lucky, because I often used to leave my CCW or a spare mag in that bag if I was going into a Bar or other restricted place. But I learned to keep my car's interior clean. No valuables are left in the open, and all bags or things that look like they could hold valuables go in the trunk. It costs a theif nothing to smash a window and grab a bag, but it will certainly cost you.
     
  13. medalguy

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    Thought so. Albuquerque is not the city it once was. :scrutiny:
     
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    I have to chuckle when told to LOCK YOUR CAR. Had my truck locked and the thieves broke the wind wing to gain access and steal. You know what, the wind wing was the hardest part to replace. If I had left my truck unlocked they would have still stole from me but I would not have had so much trouble fixing the damage they caused.

    Thieves are going to steal and we as law abiding citizens should not have to lock everything up just to have more damage caused by them. The thieves are the ones doing wrong NOT the poor guy who did not lock up his stuff.
    Mike
     
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    Next level advice is to secure valuables in the trunk before travelling to your next stop.

    Thieves watch for people putting their valuables in the trunk just before the vehicle owner(s) enter(s) a store.
     
  16. K1500

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    They stole maybe $30 of an undistinguishable product from you and you decide to call 15 or more stores? If someone stole a couple of books from your car, would you call every pawn store in town? I understand your loss, but it does not have a serial number, and is no different than any other petty theft. I would be mad and shaken up, but I wouldn't expect every pawn shop to be on high alert for them. There is no need for an attitude by them, but there is nothing they can or should do.
     
  17. Mike1234567

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    I'm not intending to criticise... and I'm sorry your mags were stolen. But, but other than to report the crime, I wouldn't have bothered to call the police, let alone a bunch of pawn shops. There's not enough property loss to fuss over it. Heck, wait until a building contractor abscounds with abouth $18K worth of materials, labor and shoddy work that has to be redone... happened to me a few months ago.:(

    Don't worry about a couple of mags. Remove things of value from your car, lock the doors, keep things of value out of sight in your home and don't talk about them to anyone, lock your doors... yeah, I wrote that twice.:)
     
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    Hey Swordsman - which LGS gave you the lecture and treated you like crap. I'm in ABQ and would like to avoid them as well. (PM me if you don't want to broadcast it)
    btw- I work for your local LE and will keep an eye out for your property.
     
  19. wannabeagunsmith

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    The answer is Jeep.



    Ahem, on topic, how about getting a car alarm installed? should save a whole lotta trouble specially if you keep guns/parts in it.
     
  20. Mike1234567

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    ^^^ If you do install a car alarm then do three things.

    1. Make darned sure it NEVER false alarms.
    2. Install a very DISTINCTIVE and loud siren.
    3. Tell your neigbors about it and show them that it is NOT oversensitive so they'll pay attention to it.
     
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    All the jeep (wrangler) owners I know leave their doors unlocked rather than buy a new several hundred dollar soft top whenever someone wants to see if there's anything worth stealing inside.
     
  22. maskedman504

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    That gave me a chuckle... ;)

    In all seriousness, it sucks to lose a couple of loaded mags; I learned a harder lesson when my grandfather's .38 special S&W service revolver was stolen from my Tahoe. He was the Sheriff of his county after he sold his farm. I bought an identical one, but it will never be his. :banghead: The vehicle was locked and parked in my lighted driveway- the thief broke the window and took it. Bottom line is I don't leave a gun in the truck anymore, it stays on me or in the home. Anymore I think of my CC like a wallet or phone; I sure never leave the phone or wallet in the car, so why leave something much more valuable in it?
     
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    I had my pickup broken into about 10 years ago and lost about $3,000 worth of stuff including one firearm. Did I call pawn shops? No. Did I call the police? Yes. Did I report the loss to my insurance company? No.

    I take responsibility for what I leave in my vehicle. The world is a crap shoot at times. After that experience, I purposely left valuable things in my vehicle at home baiting potential punk thieves. You don't want to know what I intended to do to one of them if I caught them. I was not going to make their day again... they were going to make mine.
     
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    Lessons I taught my kids, now adults.

    1. The internet is PUBLIC domain.

    2. Don't do or say anything that would embarrass you if your grand parents found out. Refer to lesson number 1.

    3. Don't leave anything in your car that you would hate to lose.
     
  25. K1500

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    Regarding car alarms, does ANYONE think their neighbors are going to rush out and confront a thief if they hear an alarm? The same goes for home alarms. Are the neighbors going to grab their guns and run out to confront a potential burglar at 2:00 a.m? I think not. The alarm makes it uncomfortable for the thief and wakes the owner. That is all they do.
     
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