Harold Mayo
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Just had to do this...
What is the best round against an enraged bear? The .45 ACP or the .50 GI?
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What is the best round against an enraged bear? The .45 ACP or the .50 GI?
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Stopping power: .45 ACP vs. new .50 GI
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Brigrat
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probably neither, stay with the 10mm or 44 mag!
artherd
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30mmHE
Double Naught Spy
Sus Venator
It might be interesting if there was ballistic data available on the .50 GI.
George Hill
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.505 Gibbs.
1911Tuner
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Grin and Bear it
Reality check! Shooting a large, enraged bear of the brown and humpbacked variety with a handgun will get your whole day ruined.
The problem ain't in killin' the bear so much as makin' him understand that
he's been killed in time to keep him from rippin' your arms off. In the
5 minutes or so that it takes him to die, he can do a helluva lot to
make you wish that you'd stayed home. I watched an animal control officer
tag a 120-pound Rott about 10 times with .40 Hydra-Shok, and he still
got bit. Now, think of a 750 or 800 pound Grizzer B'ar. Save the last
round in the magazine for yourself.
In big bear country, carry a rifle. If you can't carry one, stay home.
Beats bein' fed through a tube for 20 years or so.
Cheers!
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Reality check! Shooting a large, enraged bear of the brown and humpbacked variety with a handgun will get your whole day ruined.
The problem ain't in killin' the bear so much as makin' him understand that
he's been killed in time to keep him from rippin' your arms off. In the
5 minutes or so that it takes him to die, he can do a helluva lot to
make you wish that you'd stayed home. I watched an animal control officer
tag a 120-pound Rott about 10 times with .40 Hydra-Shok, and he still
got bit. Now, think of a 750 or 800 pound Grizzer B'ar. Save the last
round in the magazine for yourself.
In big bear country, carry a rifle. If you can't carry one, stay home.
Beats bein' fed through a tube for 20 years or so.
Cheers!
Tuner
La Pistoletta
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Why go around killing bears in the first place?
gbran
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Bigger is better
In handguns for self defence, I'm a believer in the bigger is better route. This brute may actually be a good SD round. However, when it comes to big dangerous game, I carry a .454 Casull which is only intended as a backup to a large and high powered rifle.
In handguns for self defence, I'm a believer in the bigger is better route. This brute may actually be a good SD round. However, when it comes to big dangerous game, I carry a .454 Casull which is only intended as a backup to a large and high powered rifle.
Preacherman
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Use one of these...
BluesBear
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Be warned, some bears shoot back. 1911Tuner
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Ka-BOOM
Ahhhh, Preacherman...Naval Gunnery! The last word in arty.
As you were. I'll be in the area all day....
Tuner
Ahhhh, Preacherman...Naval Gunnery! The last word in arty.
As you were. I'll be in the area all day....
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WonderNine
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LoL .505 Gibbs....
I didn't realize that was a real cartridge....
"gibs" is a mostly video gamer term for body parts. As in when someone is turned into "gibs" or "gibbed".
LMAO!
So a .45ACP if you want the bear to fly backwards and die instantly or .50GI if you want to gib it. lol
I guess the .50 wins! hahaha
I didn't realize that was a real cartridge....
"gibs" is a mostly video gamer term for body parts. As in when someone is turned into "gibs" or "gibbed".
LMAO!
So a .45ACP if you want the bear to fly backwards and die instantly or .50GI if you want to gib it. lol
I guess the .50 wins! hahaha
stans
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155mm Howitzer.
George Hill
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.505 Gibbs is one of the famous old African Safari cartridges... Steinbeck writes about it... Has nothing to do with Fragging gibs, but it would sure cause some at close range on a human.
Sean Smith
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A serious answer to a silly question:
.50 GI. Assuming solid bullets in both, a 230gr .45 ACP is the heaviest factory .45 ammo you are going to get, vs. a 300gr .50 GI. Energy and power factor are about the same between the two calibers, but the 300gr .50 has a higher sectional density than the 230gr .45, and so will (all else being equal) penetrate deeper, and will of course make a bigger hole.
Note that you shouldn't use either, especially since you can't even get a .50 GI gun or ammo yet.
.50 GI. Assuming solid bullets in both, a 230gr .45 ACP is the heaviest factory .45 ammo you are going to get, vs. a 300gr .50 GI. Energy and power factor are about the same between the two calibers, but the 300gr .50 has a higher sectional density than the 230gr .45, and so will (all else being equal) penetrate deeper, and will of course make a bigger hole.
Note that you shouldn't use either, especially since you can't even get a .50 GI gun or ammo yet.
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