Stopping power - a 1903 perspective

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Paul Kirchner, of the API List, recently posted this very interesting article. It's from a 1903 issue of the Cavalry Journal, by a cavalry officer involved in the fight against the Moros. It contains some interesting comments on speed of weapon accessibility, as well as "stopping power" considerations.

The Revolver and Its Holster

By Captain F. C. Marshall, Fifteenth Cavalry

The discussions on the Borchardt-Luger pistol, in the January number of
the JOURNAL seems to indicate an almost universal dislike among cavalry
officers to small caliber pistols. This has always been my view, and
was never better illustrated than last week, here at Jolo.

Very recently occurred the first Feast of the Hadjis of this year
(there are two each year), and a larger crop of fanatics than usual
resulted. These fanatics are called by various names-- "juramentados,"
"run-amucks," madmen. Their idea is to die killing others. They are the
absolute limit of desperate homicides. On the 8th of March, one of
these juramentados started his bloody career in the cockpit of Tullei,
a small suburb of Jolo, in the height of its Sunday operations. His
first victim was a Filipino, whom he killed, then a Chinaman, on whom
he inflicted a frightful wound; then he cut a Moro, and another Moro.
Then the barongs of the crowd around were out and his career closed. It
was over in a very few seconds.

The second killing occurred on March 10th, two days later, when a party
of engineer soldiers, with a guard of the Fifteenth Cavalry, was
superintending the work of a party of native laborers in a stone quarry
three miles from Jolo, near the coast of Datto Kalbi, one of the
principal chiefs of the Jolo Moros. A trail much used by the Moros
passing up and down the coast, passes near this quarry. About 9 o'clock
a single Moro came along this path. As soon as he appeared the guard
and engineers jumped to their feet; they were awaiting the explosion of
a blast, and the Moro yelled out, "Bagai," meaning " friend." 'Then he
leveled his piece at the group and pulled the trigger. The weapon, an
old percussion cap musket, missed fire. He threw it down, drew his
barong, and jumped for the crowd. The guard fired at him; the
engineers, who were unarmed, started to run. One man, a private of
Company G, Corps of Engineers, stumbled on a log and fell. Before the
Moro could reach him he had been hit twice-once in the groin and once
over the heart- by revolver shots, but the witnesses say he did not
slacken speed perceptibly, rushed at the fallen soldier and cut him
dreadfully. The first blow cut down the soldier's back, cutting through
all nine ribs on the left side of the backbone, through the lungs and
to the breastbone; another took off his hand at the wrist; a third his
leg below the knee; a fourth split his other hand to the wrist. By this
time the Moro had seven wounds, and became hors du combat--and high
time, too.

On the 12th came the third visitation. This time the Jolo market was
the scene at seven o’clock in the morning, Three Moros, with their
barongs hidden under the folds of their sarongs, bearing loads of
native produce to sell, entered the market, which, since the cholera
scare, has been held in a cocoanut grove near the village of Jolo. On
getting into the thick of the crowd they threw down their loads, drew
their barongs and started. They killed three Moros, one East Indian,
and wounded a Filipino and his Moro wife, before the crowd scattered.
Captain Eltinge and Lieutenant Partridge, Fifteenth Cavalry, with a
detachment of eleven men of Troop III of that regiment, were just
leaving their stables for target practice. Hearing the commotion, they
rushed to the market and were at once charged by the three Moros most
desperately. Of course the cavalrymen being mounted, could easily keep
out of the way and could shoot the men down at their leisure, but it
was noticed that the stopping effect of the bullets was very small, and
only when hit by bullets that entered the skull did the men stop their
desperate attempt to get at the soldiers. The last Moro to die, while
on his knees, threw his barong at a mounted man, fully twenty feet
away, striking him in the pit of the stomach with--most
fortunately--the hilt.

Another thing noticed in these and other juramentado attacks at Jolo,
is that the holsters are too small and the revolvers in consequence too
hard to draw quickly. Nothing could be more rapid than the way a Moro
gets into action. His barong or kris slips in or out of its scabbard
like oil. It is nicely placed to his hand, and the swing of drawing it
plunges it into his victim. To oppose such abnormal quickness the
revolver should slip out readily too, and its bullet should be
sufficiently heavy to stop the advance of the person receiving it,
instead of merely inflicting a wound that is fatal only after bleeding
to death or after peritonitis has set in.

I do not think that cavalry officers have laid sufficient stress on the
defect I mention in the holster, in their reports. Every officer I have
spoken to on the subject agrees with me that the defect is grave and
should by all means be remedied.

The experiences of the past few years in the Philippines. where a fight
is a touch and go; where the enemy makes his attack so viciously and
his retreat so soon, fractions of seconds in getting into action mean,
many times, valuable lives saved, and increased punishment inflicted on
an enemy. In my own experience, both hands are usually necessary to get
my revolver quickly out and ready. The holster should be deep and
large, with the flap easily secured and easily opened --all of which
our present holster is not. The revolver should carry a heavy bullet.
That should be the first consideration.
 
Moral of the story is: Don't trip on a log and fall. Sounds real painful :uhoh:

Thanks, Preacherman. A blast from the past. Kind of makes our petty discussion of 9mm vs .45 sophomoric
 
Thank you Preacherman. I love reading stories of old shootings.
 
Great article. I enjoyed reading it.

For those wondering, this is a picture of a Barong.
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and a some styles of the Kris.

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The author is correct, a revolver that fires a heavy bullet is definitely a consideration. However, there are always those exceptions where just about any weapon used wouldn't stop a determined foe bent on sacrificing his life to take yours.

Good Shooting
Red
 
The Borchardt-Luger pistol that was mentioned was in 7.65mm (30 cal) Luger caliber, long obsolete, and the US issued pistol of that time was in 38 Colt caliber, another long obsolete cartridge known for its lack of stopping power.

A common misconception was the 38 that was ineffective against the Moros was the 38 Special, the 38 S&W Special was brought out as an improvement over the 38 Colt's poor performance.
 
...when your fighting for your life, rarely you find you have "enough" gun.... Arc-Lite
 
Interestingly, I've read a number of accounts of combat experiences when they reintroduced the old .45 SAA revolver in an attempt to deal with drugged-up Moros. Many observers reported that the .45 didn't stop the Moros any better than the .38 did. Other observers noted that when the shooter knew what he was doing, and got a solid COM hit or two, the .45 did just fine. Those who shot wildly, and obtained peripheral hits, didn't do any better than (and got carved up at the same rate as) those using the old .38 Long Colt.

Front sight, presssss... works every time!
 
Did shotguns see any use against the Moros?

Quite a bit. From what little I've read, the buckshot-loaded shotgun was one of the few reliable Moro-stoppers of the conflict (at close range, of course). In fact, it's effectiveness in the Philippines made certain that shotguns would be deployed in WWI for close-in trench warfare.

But then, any old farmer could have told you that a good shotgun is a man's second (can't forget the dogs) best friend... :D
 
I must apalogize for my ignorance. Were these these the suicide bombers of the day?? They sound extremly fanatical!!
 
Worth remembering that up close a sword or even a big knife is still tops when it comes stopping power. Cutting off limbs and making really big holes in a person really takes the fight out of them...

Unless you're good enough to feel confident with a head shot, it would seem that the best tack would be to aim for the pelvis in an attempt to break them down so you could keep out of reach.
 
I must apalogize for my ignorance. Were these these the suicide bombers of the day?? They sound extremly fanatical!!


Yep! Same religion, different time! Needing the same medicine. ;)




Did shotguns see any use against the Moros?


Gary Cooper starred in a movie about all this in the Phillipines quite a number of years ago. The Winchester 1897 riot/trench type shotgun was a principal player, both in the movie, and the real thing.
 
And it was the 1903 new frontier model .45 that went to the Phillipines, along with surplus SAA's.

That was a scary read.
 
Shotguns?

-see the linked site for more:

http://www.bakbakan.org/junglep/jp-17.html

I am indebted to Captain J. A. Tiffany, Philippine Constabulary, for the following graphic account of an attack of juramentado Moros at Camp Severs.

"The camp itself was a large rectangle, completely enclosed with wire. The line of company tents were about ten feet inside the wire on each side. Inside the line of tents were the saddle racks and the picket lines of horses. The fence was seven feet high, with ten wires, making the strands about eight inches apart. Every twenty feet along the top of the fence, was a Dietz lantern with reflector to light up the high grass outside for several yards. The firing trench just inside was banked up and ready for business. In a few seconds after an alarm by the sentries, the men could be out of their tents and ready to meet an attack. We felt secure.

"At sundown, with Captain Purington, I inspected the defenses. We agreed that the men could sleep in perfect security with four sentries posted. No Moro could get through that fence alive. Even if they made a quick mass attack, our men would split them on bayonets while they were entangled in the wire.

"I was about ready to roll in that night when I went outside the tent and sniffed the wind like a horse when a bear is in the bush. Lieutenant Crites and myself were quartered in a tent at the opposite end of the camp from our company. Something was not right. I felt it, but could see nothing. The sentries were alert on four sides. I said nothing to Crites about my uneasy feeling. Perhaps it was that I had been used to being near my men at night. In the jungles and in Lanao we Constabulary officers had been in the habit of bunking down alongside our soldiers and non-coms. Here, in an American army camp, we had army traditions to uphold.

"It was in the night that I came out of a deep sleep feeling that a shot had awakened me. Then there were two shots and a cry: 'MOROS . . . MOROS.' Then a whole barrage of shots. I reached for my riot gun. It was gone! So was Lieutenant Crites.

"Snatching my .45 from beneath my pillow, I tore aside the mosquito-net canopy and ran out of the tent. Dark figures were coming up to the fence on the run. The firing was general.

"Realizing that in my white B. V. D.'s I might be mistaken for a Moro, I jumped back into the tent for my khaki shirt, pulling it on as I ran down the company street. Eight juramentados broke from cover and charged the camp. The ten second's delay in recovering my shirt saved my life, for I would have been confronted by six of them with nothing but my .45.

"With drawn pistol I was running down the street to my command. My path lay between the picket line of cavalry horses and the row of tents. A dim figure was running just ahead of me. I supposed it was a soldier on his way to the firing trench. The night was so dark I kept butting into the saddle racks. A big cavalryman charged out of a tent just ahead of me with a riot gun. He poked the gun within a foot of the running figure ahead of me and blasted. The man swerved and stumbled on. 'My God,' I wanted to shout, 'stop shooting at our own men.' Then I brought up suddenly. Powder smoke filled my nostrils and I was looking down the barrel of that same riot gun. The big soldier was about to let go again. Some kind of a squealing voice came out of me: 'Hey . . . it's me . . . it's me'... I would never have recognized it as my voice. I ran on; there was no time for palaver. My boys were firing rapidly . . . standing up. That puzzled me. I could see the flashes. And then I heard the familiar clang of a steel blade on a gun barrel as one of my men parried a barong. The Moros were through the fence! My men were hand to hand! I saw Crites as I heard the boom of the riot gun. In the red light a Moro was charging in with barong uplifted. Crites dropped him in mid-air.

"Then all firing ceased as the men went at it in a furious bayonet to barong duel that was a fight to the finish. At the nearest cavalry tent a white soldier rolled out under the wall, rifle in hand. Before he could stand up a Moro was upon him. Another soldier crawled out and the Moro leaped to him. My Corporal Batiokan ran up to crush the Moro's skull with a rifle butt. Blood was squirting from two great gashes in the cavalrymen's back. Soldiers came running to carry away the wounded man. Their uniforms were red with blood.

"My own company were giving first aid to wounded men. One of the men was past medical aid. He had been chopped to ribbons, with arms and legs severed and lying apart from his body. Under a dead juramentado I found a loaded riot gun. I pulled it out and dropped into the trench with my men. Things had grown very quiet. I had the riot gun now; I felt safer. Out in the cogon grass I thought I saw something move in the light of the Dietz lanterns. I covered the dark blot and waited. It was a Moro all right. I pulled the trigger and the gun snapped impotently. I fired again with the same result. Then a third shell missed fire and I had a real case of the jitters. Would I continue to snap shells while that fanatic split my head through the wire? Fortunately for me a cavalryman behind me saw me pulling the trigger without result. His Springfield cracked and the Moro went down. The Springfield slug entered the top of his head and continued on through his body. We found him after the fight. He had been knocked down by a bullet in the neck at the first fire of the sentries. Recovering consciousness he had crawled on to be in at the finish. (A Moro juramentado has never been known to change his mind.)

"Seven of the eight juramentados who had made the attack had succeeded in getting through the wire in the face of the fire. One lay dead outside the wire and seven were stretched out in the enclosure when morning came and we made inspection. The hospital was lined with terribly wounded men, slashed with barongs, and we were forced to kill many of the slashed horses who had been in the path of the charging Moros.

"The juramentados who had plunged through the wire in a desperate dive had left skin and clothes on the wire. They were horribly torn from head to foot by the long barbs. They were riddled with bullets, and many had heads bashed in and bayonet stabs. They lay there, with glittering eyeballs and bared black teeth. Their heads were shaven and their eyebrows were a thin line of hair. As we looked into those ghastly, inhuman faces and saw those deadly barongs still clutched in their hands, it was too much--even for a soldier.

"As I reflected that there might be months and months of this--with every night a possibility of night attack from juramentados, it cracked my nerves more than I cared to admit. It was a jittery business, fighting Moros."
 
From my reading I remember they wrapped their bodies (incl their privates) with tight bandages, making a form of body armor. Head shots were the best stopper, regardless of caliber. :uhoh:
 
Another interesting bit from the link that Lee Lapin posted above:

The candidate was clothed in a white robe and crowned with a white turban. The genitals were bound tightly with cords, and the body was bound here and there with cords, tightly, to prevent circulation and loss of blood. A man so prepared was able to remain on his feet although dying from fatal wounds.

The whole page is an interesting read.

brad cook
 
Also very interesting how they finally ended the problem:

It was Colonel Alexander Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry who accomplished by taking advantage of religious prejudice what the bayonets and Krags had been unable to accomplish. Rodgers inaugurated a system of burying all dead juramentados in a common grave with the carcasses of slaughtered pigs. The Mohammedan religion forbids contact with pork; and this relatively simple device resulted in the withdrawal of juramentados to sections not containing a Rodgers. Other officers took up the principle, adding new refinements to make it additionally unattractive to the Moros. In some sections the Moro juramentado was beheaded after death and the head sewn inside the carcass of a pig. And so the rite of running juramentado, at least semi-religious in character, ceased to be in Sulu. The last cases of this religious mania occurred in the early decades of the century. The juramentados were replaced by the amucks. .. who were simply homicidal maniacs with no religious significance attaching to their acts.

Can you imagine how the rest of the world would howl if we started doing this with suicide bombers?

brad cook
 
I remember hearing about a Moro who at the battle of Bagsak? I think? Around 1911, soaked up 32 hits from either Krags or Springfields, including multiple pistol hits in that number, before a 00 Buck round to the head stopped him in his tracks.



Good case for the two to the body move to the head routine.
 
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