Students get calls from military after schools share phone numbers

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Sir Galahad....you obviously are missing the point in all of this, so let me try to help you one last time.

If we are to believe that "teachers" are wrong for sharing their views about the war with their students....we must also accept that it is wrong for the millitary to call students at their residence to get them to join the war.

The students apparently made it clear to the millitary people calling that they are not interested...thus, the repeated phone calls equates to harassment. When someone says no...leave me alone...it means just that and in the "real world" if they are subjected to continued calls....it becomes telephone harassment, which is a criminal offense.

Under your rationalization, you presuppose that because a kid is in public school, they are not entitled to "privacy" like a kid who is in a private school is entited to receive. Hence, if they do not like it, they can either drop out of school, attend a private school or just deal with the harassment. Obviously the right of privacy is a value you believe should be only for the privileged few.

Also under your rationalization, you assert that a kid should learn to accept harassment because in his life he will have to learn to accept orders from his employer. Living a responsible life (apart of which includes working and being a team player) has nothing to do with being a kid in school and receiving harassing telephone calls from millitary..the key word here is "harassment" and maybe herein lies your misuderstanding. You see, these kids did not sign up to join and then backed out...they did not willingly give their phone number and say...call me later and we'll talk. These kids...in trying to be responsible...are trying to go to school and just be kids.

And you predicate that because a person must fill out tax info to pay the gov't....these kids have no right to be free of harassment and safe in their right of privacy. With each entry you write, it is clear that you advance these kids in age more and more from what they truly are.....to somehow give your rationalizations logic. Though it is obvious that you simply just do not understand. So, I leave you to your logic and to your rationalizations and should you have kids, then I hope you will march them down to the nearest recruiters office tomorrow and force your kid to sign on the dotted line or give your phone number to the recruiters and tell them to pressure and harass your kid into joining the millitary. And if you truly believe that a kid's personal info is public record merely because s/he attends a public shcool....I doubt very much you'd say the same if some freak got a hold of his personal info under the premise that it was "public records" and started stalking your kid. You would most complain and to proclaim that your child has a right of privacy. Because after all....it is your child involved and not "the other guys" so the shoe is always different when on the other foot.
 
"...we must also accept that it is wrong for the millitary to call students at their residence to get them to join the war..."

No, we don't have to accept that it is wrong. You can accept it if you like, but 'we' don't.

John
 
It isn't morally wrong for Uncle Sam to call.

That said, it isn't Uncle Sam's right, either.

Students should be able to actively circumvent the calls, by asking that they be place on a "no call" list.

Recruiters have quotas and pressures to meet, so they may not necessarily be very ethical in their pursuit of prospective recruits.

Young people may not be able to make the best decisions when being badgered. It is no accident that the Moonies and other cults go after the young; it is easier to overcome their resistance.

Anecdotally, I've know those who went into the service thinking they'd get good training, but ended up with a specialty that wasn't worth much on the outside. The military isn't, in general, good for everyone and it doesn't turn folks into more honest, more capable individuals unless that individual wants those qualities to begin with. Plenty of losers have served - I've met more than a few.
 
Bob, an 18 year old is no longer a "child". Perhaps you like the definition of "child" to extend to firearms rights as it does now where, in some states, you can't even touch a gun unsupervised until you're 18 and that's only for long guns. Hiding behind age is a lame cop-out. And, yes, any organization is free to call your home and ask to speak to people there. You, as a parent, are free to say yes or no to them asking to speak to your kids. You are also free to hang up the phone. The phone is your property. The phone lines are not. Requesting laws to stop such-and-such sounds all too familiar, does it not?

Geez, Bob, cut the apron strings!
Aside from all the lame cop outs of hiding behind age?, and condescending comments about apron strings...
Do you have no problem with a school giving out your and your child's personal information?
 
You know, these people could always just HANG UP the phone when the recruiters call. You don't have to sit on he phone with them. That's one of the great benefits of the phone, you can stop the conversation at any time.
 
I'm glad the Marine recruiter contacted me when I was a senior in high school. It kept me out of jail, away from drugs and away from the "flower power" crowd. Yes, I went to Vietnam, so what. Tens of thousands of others also went.
I considered it an honor to serve this country as a U.S. Marine.

I was able to retired at 38 years old! Which allowed me to go after a second career.


Where have you been?
What do you earn?

And in closing, you either help defend America or you don't.
I have no friggin use for anti-American actions and comments.
 
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