Students ousted in drama competition for flag-cutting scene

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The play praises patriotism, but the judges only saw teens cutting up an American flag.

It was enough to disqualify Archbishop McCarthy High students from a competition early this week for their performance of The Children's Story. In the play, first published in 1963 by Shogun author James Clavell, third-graders in a classroom in a United States that has been defeated by a powerful enemy, presumably Communist, cut the flag into pieces. Their new teacher tells them if the flag is so good, everyone should get a piece and tells them to hand out the shreds. It's a message about the dangers of mindless political indoctrination.

"The play is actually pro-American," said Erin Fragetta, 15, a sophomore at the southwest Broward County school who worked on the production. "It was intended to be an anti-communist message, and the judges just turned it around on us."

Zac Ensign, who acted in the play, added: "People just didn't look at what we were doing for what it was. We never intended for this to be a malicious gesture."

McArthur was competing against 10 troupes from Broward public and private high schools at the Florida State Thespians District 13 one-act play competition at Nova High on Monday and Tuesday.

After receiving complaints about the flag cutting, co-chairman Melody Wicht, who teaches drama at Pembroke Pines Charter High, disqualified the McArthur team.

"Some people came to me after the play and complained about the performance," Wicht said. "So I looked into it."

Wicht said she based her decision on Florida Statute 876.52, which says "Whoever publicly mutilates, defaces or tramples with intent to insult any flag ... of the United States shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree."

"I tried to stay as objective as possible as they performed," Wicht said. "My problem was that they took an American flag off the flagpole and cut it into pieces. They were disqualified based on Florida law."

Jim Usher, from American Heritage School in Plantation, one of the three judges, said while he was "grossly offended" by the flag cutting, he didn't base his rating of the play on it. He gave the play a fair rating -- the lowest -- based on overall performance, he said.

Wicht said until she hears otherwise, the disqualification will stand.

But constitutional lawyers and theater buffs say Wicht may have gone too far.

"For 10 years it's been clear that these flag desecration statutes are unconstitutional," said Bruce Rogow, a Nova Southeastern University law professor specializing in constitutional law and First Amendment rights. "What's especially ironic is that this is a pro-democracy, anti-totalitarianism play, and yet they're punished for using the flag as an example of what shouldn't be done in a totalitarian society."

Rogow cited the 1990 U.S. Supreme Court decision that struck down such a statute in the case of Texas vs. Johnson.

Conservative Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in the court's opinion that flag desecration is the ultimate expression of disagreement in a democracy.

Broward school district spokesman Joe Donzelli said flag desecration isn't a punishable act under the Student Code of Conduct.

"The only way the school district would have a problem with it was if it disrupted the learning environment or compromised student safety," he said.

Still, retired Davie firefighter Tommy Jewell, a former commander of American Legion Post Dania 404 who has overseen the ritual destruction of hundreds of American flags, said flag desecration is wrong under any circumstances.

"There's only one proper way to cut up a flag, and there's only one way to burn a flag," Jewell said.

Jewell feels especially strong about setting a bad example for young people.

"If we teach these kids in high school that cutting up a flag is no big deal, we lose something," Jewell said. "The flag is our ultimate symbol of freedom and democracy, and as such it's sacred."

Joseph Morano and Monica Peraldo, McCarthy's drama teachers, said they were upset with the way they learned of the disqualification.

"We heard rumors from students from other schools that we were being disqualified, so we went to Melody Wicht and asked her what was going on. We were told that we had broken a law. I tried to explain to her that there was nothing wrong with what we did, and I later found out she was under pressure from complaints. We feel that as members of the group we should have been consulted before a decision was made. Ultimately, it's our students who suffered, because they weren't judged on their abilities alone."

Ameli Fragetta, Erin's mother, said anyone who knows about the play knows the flag is destroyed in a respectful fashion.

"This play has been a voice of patriotism for years and is regularly performed at district, state and national drama competitions," Fragetta said. "My daughter is very upset. Justice and fairness are very important to her, and this decision just wasn't fair."

Fragetta said her daughter, a Girl Scout, saves the flag fragments after performances to dispose of at official flag destruction ceremonies.

"These kids had absolutely no intention of desecrating the flag," Fragetta said. "They're just performing a very serious play where the flag is destroyed. This is ridiculous."

Even though Erin Fragetta is worried that the incident will mean an enduring bias against McCarthy's drama club, she's glad they stirred things up.

"I feel proud that we could make such an impact with a play," Fragetta said. "It's good that I got to be a part of it."

Peter Bernard can be reached at pbernard@sun-sentinel. com or 954-356-4525.

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What do I think?

I think the failure to comprehend a deeper message because something distracted them is an all too common human failing.

Some people have hair triggers and go off, losing all perspective in a simple pavlovian response whenever they encounter certain taboo situations, be it flag desecration, the pronunciation of certain words, or even the pronunciation of other words like "niggardly ", which resembles the trigger words.

This phenomena is reinforced and fully supported by political correctivism.

I find it richly ironic that a play warning of mindless political indoctrination should trigger a mindless politically indoctrinated response.

That's what I think.
 
:rolleyes:

100% missed the point.

However, it sounds as though the real issue is folks are inculcated with a blind loyalty to the state and false reverence for its symbols, rather than ideals. When the US becomes a socialist authoritarian police state, the Stars and Stripes will still be flying overhead and those who equate symbolism to patriotism will be in lockstep, make that goosestep, with the authority figures.
 
It's a powerful play with a great message

It's too bad some folks went off the deep end before they saw what it was really about.

IMHO, they could have just as easily used pieces of red and blue cloth to simulate cutting a flag up and had the same effect on the audience. But then again I can see why they would want the maximum audience impact from that scene.

The play is like the first act from Red Dawn ina way. It dramatizes how indoctrination can come in on cats feet and influence quietly.

Don P.
 
[blockquote]Wicht said she based her decision on Florida Statute 876.52, which says "Whoever publicly mutilates, defaces or tramples with intent to insult any flag ... of the United States shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree."[/blockquote]
Nice to see that Melody Wicht can't even read. Participants in the play had no intent to insult the flag. Why is an illiterate judging plays?

If anyone harbored intent to insult the flag, maybe it was Clavell. If he wasn't cremated, why don't they exhume his body and have it extradited from Switzerland. Then they can hold a proper trial and sentence him to a good long time in prison. I'm sure other inmates would appreciate the stench of a rotting corpse in the same block.
 
However, it sounds as though the real issue is folks are inculcated with a blind loyalty to the state and false reverence for its symbols, rather than ideals. When the US becomes a socialist authoritarian police state, the Stars and Stripes will still be flying overhead and those who equate symbolism to patriotism will be in lockstep, make that goosestep, with the authority figures.

I agree 100%. If and when we descent into a full on 1984ish lifestyle the flags will wave proudly. And i bet that flag burning amendment will finally pass too (on punishment of death no less). Strangely enough from what the article states it seems that this is EXACTLY the same point that Calvell was making in his play. Its almost funny how the judge is playing the villian and doesnt even realize it.

Additionally, if i remember my boyscouting days properly. Doesnt the proper and dignified method of flag retiring involve cutting the stars from the bars and the bars into strips (the field of starts is NEVER cut) prior to burning? Someone better tip off this judge to keep an eye on those insurgents in the VFW and BSA. :barf:
 
I think the failure to comprehend a deeper message because something distracted them is an all too common human failing.

Some people have hair triggers and go off, losing all perspective in a simple pavlovian response whenever they encounter certain taboo situations, be it flag desecration, the pronunciation of certain words, or even the pronunciation of other words like "niggardly ", which resembles the trigger words.

This phenomena is reinforced and fully supported by political correctivism.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
In SERE school, they teach you to never let the destruction of a symbol faze you, the ideals that the symbol represents should be in each and every one of us. Without those inner set of values, the flag is just a piece of cloth...
 
Good video. Ended up making a point different from what was intended: treat propaganda with suspicion, educate kids about it, but also question orthodoxy.
 
What I see happening here is a bunch of communists (teachers who are members of the NEA or AFT) who found a way to use the law to silence their opposition and make it look like it was for reasons other then because they didn't like being exposed.

I guarantee you if the play had a pro-communism thesis these same teachers would probably be falling all over themselves to protect the freedom of speech of these students.
 
Additionally, if i remember my boyscouting days properly. Doesnt the proper and dignified method of flag retiring involve cutting the stars from the bars and the bars into strips (the field of starts is NEVER cut) prior to burning?


I always thought you fold the flag to a triangle and then burn it to dispose of it.
 
IIRC, my boyscout manual states that flags that are worn out are to be "burned respectfully".

I don't recall ever encountering a specific flag burning ritual.


Striker3's comment reminds me of the old saying that "you can burn a book, but the words fly free from the pages".
 
I assume Mrs. Wicht reported this law violation to the police? If she thought a violation of the law occured, that should have been her only action. She's got no authority to decide the kids are guilty and then sentence them.

On this flag burning thing: Suprynowicz made a good point about it a few years ago. He asked: who wants to salute the flag which was raised in victory by the ATF and FBI over the smoldering crematorium of Waco back in 1993?

The point he's making is that not every american flag deserves our respect. If it's been raised over us in a violent act of tyranny, it deserves no respect at all.
 
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