Stupid CZ 82 Question?

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I finally got my hands on a CZ 82 at a LGS. I like the gun, but the one at the store was in horrible shape. So, I had a couple of questions. Some not so stupid and one that may be very stupid.

Is it normal for the mag release to be nearly impossible to push in on the right side? How easy is the safety to disengage? The one I held was in rough shape. The trigger was fine, but all of the controls felt nearly stuck in place.

Is there an effective way to decok the pistol once you chamber a round? I like the gun, but carrying it all day cocked and locked isn't appealing to me.
 
Manual decock.

It's relatively safe to do so because the CZ82 has an inertial firing pin (spring loaded free floating firing pin) along with a (spring loaded) hammer block. Should your thumb slip while manually decocking, it is unlikely that it will set off the chambered cartridge. Unlikely but definitely not impossible, so point it in a safe direction when doing so!
 
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I finally got my hands on a CZ 82 at a LGS. I like the gun, but the one at the store was in horrible shape. So, I had a couple of questions. Some not so stupid and one that may be very stupid.

Is it normal for the mag release to be nearly impossible to push in on the right side? How easy is the safety to disengage? The one I held was in rough shape. The trigger was fine, but all of the controls felt nearly stuck in place.

Is there an effective way to decok the pistol once you chamber a round? I like the gun, but carrying it all day cocked and locked isn't appealing to me.
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The magazine release should work easily from either side.

The safety on these pistols has about the same level of friction as any other pistol.

This pistol does not have a de cocker. So you would have to carefully point the pistol in a safe direction (down range) and gently lower the hammer and engage the safety.

I think I would pass on the one you are looking at.

One idea would be to apply for a C&R license. The cost $30.00 for three years, and would allow you to buy a CZ82 and have it shipped to your home for around $225.00.
 
I am definitely going to pass on the one I held. The price is wrong and the gun seemed heavily used. It just didn't feel like a keeper.
 
Check out CDNN or J&G sales
as for heavily used, please realize the barrel is a true polygonal rifling, in that it has no land or groove, instead its kinda squashed and that acts to spin the bullet,

as for condition, external condition has very little to do with functionality, you need to drop the slide and check out the insides to see.
 
It's very common for the magazine release to fail on one side. (I have one like that.) It's supposed to be a simple fix.

The gun has such a nice double-action trigger pull, why would you ever carry it cocked-and-locked? Point it in a safe direction and carefully lower the hammer.

What's a "safety"? ;)
 
Ditto on finish ~ especially the CZ 82. The painted finish is not the most durable. Upside, they are easy to refinish.

Also, on the C&R. Easy process, took me about 10 minutes to fill out the forms. No fingerprints or photo required, one form to the ATF, one to your CLEO, and a residency declaration. No action on the CLEOs part required unless they have cause to block it. You can easily make up the cost on one purchase, plus a lot of places give additional discounts. You will have to keep a record of purchases and dispositions. C&R is a collectors license ~ you cannot use it as a business.

Here is a good link to the forms:

http://www.jgsales.com/getcr.php?SID
 
Wear and tear on the mag release is a pretty commonly seen problem on the CZ83. Look to this link on a CZ Forum for a suggested fix.
http://czechpistols82792.yuku.com/topic/7455/CZ-82-Magazine-Release-Stopped-Working

Decocking a pistol without a decocker is always potentially a little more dangerous. Two handed release of the hammer is sage. You may even want to consider some form of a clearing bucket, depending on your housing arrangements.
 
WHEN DECOCKING
remember to let go of the trigger, if you have the trigger pulled, while lowering the hammer, the hammer block is out of the way, SO, pull the trigger, let the hammer off the sear, let go of the trigger and lower the hammer.
 
We were taught in NRA handgun safety class to place the weak-side thumb in the way of the hammer when decocking a pistol with no decocker. Guide the hammer down with your right thumb while blocking its path with the left thumb (or the opposite if you're left-handed).

As Shadow 7D said, don't forget to release the trigger as soon as the hammer has passed the cocking notch. At that point, it's also safe to remove the "blocking" thumb.
 
I'm thinking of ordering one from CDNN when the taxes come in. I guess I'll practice decocking with a spent shell. If I don't get comfortable with the process it'll become a HD gun.

My only other question, are the Silver Bear HPs any good? I mean, are they consistent expanders? My main concern with the 9x18 is that it seems more and more ammo manufacturers are abandoning the round. I don't want to be stuck with no other option than FMJ in five years.
 
Get one you will love it but aim or sog would be a better bet. Then get some ammo cus you wont stop shootin it
 
I guess I'll practice decocking with a spent shell. If I don't get comfortable with the process it'll become a HD gun.
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You can practice decocking with nothing in the chamber at all. It's not dryfire: it's a very slow, controlled release, with no stress on the firing pin or anything. It's not that hard. You'll get used to it pretty quickly.

Or you could leave it cocked and locked. Is that what you would do for HD?
 
My (actually my wife's since she confiscated it for her own) CZ82 is the most accurate handgun I own. I think it's the best value available in handguns right now.
 
For HD I would probably keep the chamber empty untill needed. Cocked and locked just makes me nervous.

I guess it is because I am more familiar with revolvers. I am just use to the DA trigger, unless I want SA. That hammer just hanging out there, and the light pull, isnt something that I am comfortable with. At least not before it is time to take aim and pull the trigger.
 
For HD I would probably keep the chamber empty untill needed. Cocked and locked just makes me nervous.
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I'm not a big fan of cocked-and-locked either. But if you're a revolver guy, carrying the CZ-82 in Condition Two will give you a familiar set of options: double-action trigger pull right out of the holster, or cock the hammer for single-action. The transition from the first double-action shot to the single-action follow-up shot might take some getting used to, though.
 
The transition from the first double-action shot to the single-action follow-up shot might take some getting used to, though.
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Especially with a CZ 82. They have pretty stiff double action trigger pulls.

Single action is nice on both of mine.

If you were more comfortable with revolvers, you might want to consider sticking with them.

Personally it takes me quite a bit of training to get really good with something.
 
I want to branch out. I love revolvers, but I had a situation lately that made me realize their limitations.

I found out that, as the crow flys, I live less than 2.5 miles from a prison. They had three convicts get loose and head in my direction. Luckily they kept to the train tracks and passed on by without incident.

However, I got to thinking. What if three convicts, determined not to go back to jail, break in to my house? Is a five shot revolver the answer? I just don't feel comfortable relying on a low capacity hand gun any more.

I know the 9x18 isn't a great defense round. However, the gun fits my budget and with a mix of Hornady XTP and Buffalo Bore HCFN ammo I think it it will work.

I figured out last night that the gun, extra mag, 300 rounds of practice ammo, 50 rounds of Hornady, shipping and fees would only be $351.64.

I've been looking around here and a new Bersa is $279 plus tax. Getting 300 rounds of ammo would run another $84. A Taurus Mil Pro in 9mm runs $350 plus tax. Then 300 rounds of ammo is $66. Add in self defense ammo and you're looking at another $34 for the really good stuff. So you're looking at over $400 dollars easy.

For me it makes economic sense and it gives me the security of additional capacity. Plus, my wife who is nearly anti-gun can get profecient with it quickly. I know she is going to put in very limited time shooting and I need something she can get the hang of quickly.
 
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9x18 will be just fine for defensive purposes. Personally I don't like 9x18 HP rounds. They all expand too much (.60-.65) and don't penetrate enough 7".

I'd just stick with the commie proven, ball ammo in 9x18 or the 115gr. flat nosed Buffalo Bore, if you're looking for the mythical, handgun "knock down" power.

Don't worry about putting the hammer down on the 82.....As Shadow 7D explained, you hold the hammer, pull the trigger till you hear the click of the hammer/sear releasing, then release the trigger first, then drop the hammer and the hammer block will prevent the hammer from hitting the firing pin, should you blunder the de-cock......Practice it with an empty chamber, till you've mastered it.

Personally the CZ-82 is so easy to lay the hammer down, if you can't do it successfully, you have absolutely no business using a firearm for protection.....Please get some pepper spray instead. ;)
 
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9x18 will be just fine for defensive purposes. Personally I don't like 9x18 HP rounds. They all expand too much (.60-.65) and don't penetrate enough 7".

I'd just stick with the commie proven, ball ammo in 9x18 or the 115gr. flat nosed Buffalo Bore, if you're looking for the mythical, handgun "knock down" power.

Don't worry about putting the hammer down on the 82.....As Shadow 7D explained, you hold the hammer, pull the trigger till you hear the click of the hammer/sear releasing, then release the trigger first, then drop the hammer and the hammer block will prevent the hammer from hitting the firing pin, should you blunder the de-cock......Practice it with an empty chamber, till you've mastered it.

Personally the CZ-82 is so easy to lay the hammer down, if you can't do it successfully, you have absolutely no business using a firearm for protection.....Please get some pepper spray instead. ;)
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The CZ82 is a pure joy to own and shoot. While I agree that 9x18 may not be the best option for SD out there, it will certainly do the job if you do you're part of putting the bullet where it belongs.
 
I really wish somebody would bring back the 112gr (or was it 115) hollow point. In the tests I saw the round easily did 12" of penetration.

I emailed Buffalo Bore and asked if they planned on bringing out anything like that. Their answer was basically, "not now. . . never say never." To me it seems like the perfect compliment to their 115 HCFN.

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Another potentially stupid question.

In several tests the Hornady XTP in 9x18 averaged about 985ft/s. The Buffalo Bore hollow point is supposed to do 1192ft/s. Is the extra 240ft/s going to make a big difference in penetration given the low density of the bullet? In other words, would I expect much of a gain for the extra wear and tear on my gun?
 
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In several tests the Hornady XTP in 9x18 averaged about 985ft/s. The Buffalo Bore hollow point is supposed to do 1192ft/s. Is the extra 240ft/s going to make a big difference in penetration given the low density of the bullet? In other words, would I expect much of a gain for the extra wear and tear on my gun?
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I'd be interested in seeing a test on the BB stuff. As far as extra wear and tear, just put in a heavier recoil spring from Wolfe, and you can stop worrying.

Heck, you probably don't even need to change the spring. The cz-82 was actually designed to fire a very hot version of the 9x18 with a sintered bullet. The average commercial 9x18 stuff these days is nowhere near as hot. IIRC, the Czechs still carry that sintered round in their cz-82's.
 
IIRC, the Czechs still carry that sintered round in their cz-82's.
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Are the Czechs still carrying 82s? Shouldn't they have gone to a 9x19 sidearm when they joined NATO?

EDIT TO ADD: Unless you mean the cops. I believe they also carried the 82.
 
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Are the Czechs still carrying 82s? Shouldn't they have gone to a 9x19 sidearm when they joined NATO?

EDIT TO ADD: Unless you mean the cops. I believe they also carried the 82.
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Apparently some chech soldiers are still issued 82's.
 
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