Stupid Illinois Anti-Gun Politicians

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Not sure if this was posted yet. I have been off the boards for several days. Did a search but nothing came up. Anyway, below is an article that appeared yesterday in the Chicago Tribune. It seems that some Illinois politicians just can't give up. It's bad enough that they banned REAL guns, now they want to ban ***fake*** guns too. This is pathetic. Whats next - banning the use of your hands to make a gun like gesture? Banning gun magazines? Banning internet access to websites like THR? (I probably should stop giving them ideas :( ) Man, this misdirected effort just drives me crazy. :banghead:

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Aurora targets fake guns
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City outlaws replica weapons and sale of pellet or BB guns

By Rhianna Wisniewski
Special to the Tribune

December 21, 2006

Children in Aurora better think twice now before adding a toy gun to
their game of cops and robbers.

Amid growing concern for the safety of Aurora's youths, the City
Council unanimously adopted an ordinance this week that bans the sale,
possession or purchase of replica guns. A second ordinance prohibits the sale
of projectile guns, including BB or pellet guns, to minors within city
limits.

Police are allowed to confiscate replica guns and levy fines.
Previously, police returned guns to their owners. Fines range from $500 to
$1,000, depending on the type of gun and how it was being used.

But community activist Mary Fultz doesn't think the actions go far
enough because toy guns with orange caps or those obviously fake, such as
translucent or brightly colored ones, still are allowed.

To make a point at Tuesday's meeting, Fultz pulled the trigger on a
realistic looking, palm-sized toy cap gun. One alderman ducked, another
winced and most looked on warily as she held the smoking black gun, which
she had a child buy at a local flea market for $1.

She believes all black fake guns should be banned, because she fears
that the ordinance as-is will not prevent potential accidental deaths in
incidents where police have to make split-second decisions.

"This is not at all what we're asking for," Fultz said. "Kids can
easily take the cap off, break them off or spray-paint them. Our problem is
that if the gun is all black, it looks real."

Aurora's actions are modeled after an ordinance in Chicago that
prohibits the sale and possession of any BB or pellet guns or any other
replica that shoots a projectile. But Aurora's new ordinances go further,
banning any item, other than those allowed under federal law, which
resembles a gun, regardless of whether it shoots projectiles. The federal
statute allows toy guns that are translucent, brightly colored or have
orange caps.

"This is about the kids and keeping the guns out of kids' hands," said
Ald. Stephanie Kifowit (3rd Ward). "This ordinance unequivocally keeps
them out of kids' hands."

Fultz, who introduced the issue to the City Council, cited the injury
of Ellis Woodland in Chicago as an example of the dangers these guns
pose to children. Police say Woodland, a 14-year-old Cabrini-Green
resident, was shot and seriously wounded in August after he refused to put
down what appeared to be a 9 mm handgun that turned out to be a BB gun.
Chicago passed its ordinance in October.

Aurora Police Chief William Powell said Fultz's concern is valid,
because officers are trained to shoot in situations where someone with a gun
is threatening police or public safety. He also doesn't think the
ordinance will rid the city of the replica guns because they're still sold
in neighboring cities.

Still, the ordinance sends "a strong message that these guns aren't
wanted here," he said. "Anytime we're going to outlaw guns, I'm for it,
because I've seen what guns have done to our community."

Powell was the supervising officer on June 25, 1999, when 30-year-old
Dennis Young was shot and killed after he aimed what appeared to be a
gun at police. The weapon turned out to be a BB gun.

Fultz' son was shot by a real gun while playing basketball, and the
offender was never caught. Her son sustained an injury to his leg that has
severely limited his ability to play competitive sports.

She first brought the issue to the city's Government Operations
Committee in 2005, after a 10-year-old boy took a realistic toy gun to an
after-school program she was involved in on Aurora's east side.

Frightened teachers ushered students against walls and into corners and
were about to call police when they learned the gun was fake. Fultz,
backed by 1,200 community members who signed petitions, has been working
with council members since that incident to outlaw replicas.

Alayne Weingartz, Aurora corporate counsel, said the ordinance cannot
go further than the federal statute.

Aurora Mayor Tom Weisner said he, too, would like to see all gun
replicas banned, but, politically and legally, his hands are tied.

"Personally I would agree with going further," Weisner said. "But as
mayor I have to look at what we'd like to do and then look at what we
could conceivably defend."

A third ordinance, which was modeled after the penalty portion of
Chicago's replica gun ordinance, was sent back to committee Tuesday. It
would have levied warnings and potential legal action on parents for their
children's violations of gun or drug ordinances.

That ordinance will be discussed on Jan. 9.

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Tighter gun laws

Aurora's new ordinances:

- Ban the sale, possession and purchase of replica guns, except those
colored to look fake or those with orange caps.

- Prohibit the sale of projectile guns, including BB or pellet guns, to
minors.

- Give police authority to confiscate replica guns.

- Provide for fines from $500 to $1,000, depending on type of gun and
how it was used.
Copyright (c) 2006, Chicago Tribune
 
Luckly with the sheer amount of pro gun Democrats who got appointed in Illinois that has a good chance of being countered.

Even more luckly this woman's group consists of very few members and the article makes its importance sound way more than it is.
 
there you go

Bill of Rights, abridged.

"This is about the kids and keeping the guns out of kids' hands," said
Ald. Stephanie Kifowit (3rd Ward). "This ordinance unequivocally keeps
them out of kids' hands."


3rd Ward? Of the asylum?

And who points BB guns at cops anyway :banghead:

I do have some sensitivity in me for the parents of the lost children, i really can't imagine, but da**it teach kids how to use them. Pointing replica's at cops is a nomination for the Darwin award for sure.

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The worst thing is that one day these puss brains will wish they hadn't so castrated their youth, so disarmed the good men of their community, one day this sickness will come to call. I recommend writing that Police Chief a polite letter, explaining why banning replica's is a short cut to community peace with greater long term consequences.

This should be resisted by RKBA'rs because guns will continue to become more and more demonized when kids can't play with them or handle them at all. No BB guns, the bast**ds!!!

Well, I bought a Red Ryder BB gun just today for my little step brother. He's going to be learning trigger squeeze, breath control, sight picture, stock cheek weld, and safety....and how to freakin destroy the BG by year's end.:evil:

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Quote from the article...


To make a point at Tuesday's meeting, Fultz pulled the trigger on a
realistic looking, palm-sized toy cap gun. One alderman ducked, another
winced and most looked on warily as she held the smoking black gun, which
she had a child buy at a local flea market for $1.

What a bunch of wusses.
 
A pair of 13 year olds were arrested today in Chicago, near the University of Chicago, for robbing/mugging people with a "replica" or "toy" gun, depending on the news report.

This is/will be coming to Chicago and Cook County soon. (As soon as Da Mayor and Tood Stroeger work out their elevator schedules.)

As my father often says: "Stupid should be painful......"
 
Not to be calious, but you point anything that looks like a gun at LEO one should expect to be shot. I don't entirely blame the kids, where are the parents and what the h*** have they been doing with these kids? :cuss: All respect in this society seems to have gone down the toilet. My sceintific background leads me to believe this is the modern form of natural selection for intelligence. :rolleyes: You can not protect people 100% from themselves...
 
I don't know why Illinois just doesn't apply an automatic and immediate death sentence for anything that is dangerous, obscene, violent, or in any way, shape, or form considered uncouth or objectionable. :mad:
 
Fultz pulled the trigger on a
realistic looking, palm-sized toy cap gun. One alderman ducked, another
winced and most looked on warily
You have to be freaking kidding me :uhoh: what a bunch of pansies.

I don't know why Illinois just doesn't apply an automatic and immediate death sentence for anything that is dangerous, obscene, violent, or in any way, shape, or form considered uncouth or objectionable

Stop giving them ideas. Chicago and the surrounding area is too far gone to ever be saved. I live in Southern Illinois and its a shame these people have a voice in our politics. Most folks down here are quite pro-gun. I wonder what it would take to get a North Illinois and South Illinois :D . Whos up for adding one more star?
 
Most folks down here are quite pro-gun. I wonder what it would take to get a North Illinois and South Illinois . Whos up for adding one more star?

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Make it two and you've got a deal!
 
"I wonder what it would take to get a North Illinois and South Illinois"

How appropriate, just like North and South Korea. Unfortunately for me, I live in North Korea, er Illinois. There are a lot of similarities between Kim Il Jung and the current mayor. Both inherited their jobs from their daddy. Neither have any discernable talent, and both are tinpot dictators.
 
Just a note for those not from Illinois. South Illinois includes everything up to the Wisconsin border EXCEPT Chicago and its colonies.

At least, I hope my friends from Canton or Cairo will accept us when they get their star! Ogle county at least votes reliably. Winnebago is iffy. Don't know about Boone county. Anyone know?
 
Aurora's actions are modeled after an ordinance in Chicago that
prohibits the sale and possession of any BB or pellet guns or any other
replica that shoots a projectile. But Aurora's new ordinances go further,
banning any item, other than those allowed under federal law, which
resembles a gun, regardless of whether it shoots projectiles.

She believes all black fake guns should be banned, because she fears
that the ordinance as-is will not prevent potential accidental deaths in
incidents where police have to make split-second decisions.

Wait lady, what do you have to worry about? Look at Chicago. Chicago already banned handguns, there are obviously NO handguns in Chicago and police have no reason to be involved in incidents where split-second decisions are required because only toy guns remain. They banned toy guns afterwards too so they have nothing to worry about because there are no more gun or gun-like items in Chicago.

What are you worried about? It worked in Chicago.





Oh wait...no it didn't.
 
Just a note for those not from Illinois. South Illinois includes everything up to the Wisconsin border EXCEPT Chicago and its colonies.

North of I-80 and East of Rt. 47 is the wasteland.
 
Those "wusses" in the City Council can legally carry. It seems that they have a penchant for passing all sorts of prohibitive laws, but they exempt themselves from them. But don't everyone point fingers at Illinois. Two of the most vociferous ("big mouthed") anti-gun senators, Diane Feinstein and Chucky Schumer, have unlimited concealed carry permits.

Does anyone remember the late columnist Carl T. Rowen? He was strongly anti-gun. One day in D.C., when he was pulled over for a traffic violation, the officer found a loaded handgun in Mr. Rowen's car. His response? Hey- D.C. is a dangerous place! He needed the protection!

Chuck
 
Fultz, who introduced the issue to the City Council, cited the injury
of Ellis Woodland in Chicago as an example of the dangers these guns
pose to children. Police say Woodland, a 14-year-old Cabrini-Green
resident, was shot and seriously wounded in August after he refused to put
down what appeared to be a 9 mm handgun that turned out to be a BB gun.
Chicago passed its ordinance in October.
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The rage I feel when we talk about these 14 year old thugs as being poor children and victims cannot be expressed in words. Are people really this easily led?
 
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