Stupid people own guns also

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If this is not appropriate let me know..but I stumbled on this today. Very appropriate since my son shared a Navy story last night. He is in training for Security and today, two students decided to "play". One had a baton, the other a racked Beretta (safety on) and waved it around chasing the guy with the baton ....until the Master Chief walked in. BOTH are going to Captains Mast...much more severe than the principles office.

Enjoy the video and PLEASE don't ever do anything remotely similar.

http://youtu.be/RHdg3yeU2iY
 
I once walked into a gun store in Southern California and was looking around when one clerk grabbed a pump shotgun off the rack, cycled it, aimed it at another clerk, and pulled the trigger. The other clerk grabbed another pump gun off the rack behind him and did the same, aiming at the first.

They were still pumping and firing at each other as I walked out the door as quickly as I could. I never went back.

Of course, "the guns weren't loaded."
 
Some people are too cavalier and should watch Eddie eagle one more time. Teach your children well.
 
What gets me is the somewhat universal urge to look down the barrel if a gun doesn't go BOOM!

If a gun doesn't go bang anyone with half a clue knows it's likely NOT the result of anything you can see from looking down the end of the bbl.

Lol it would be like getting out of a car that won't start and gazing up the tail pipe wondering "why"?
 
After working in a gun shop on weekends for several years, I have seen too much of this type of behavior from "responsible" people to ever doubt even the most ridiculous stories!

Yep, stupid people do own guns! We just have to stay away from them or correct them when we see this type of behavior!
 
One of my first jobs after college was in a printshop. They did both offset printing and high-speed Xerox copying, using large high output Xerox machines that self collated and stapled the copies. One guy working in offset ...let us say he was two cans short of a sixpack, one day brought in a 12 gauge shotgun to "show off."
I was busy with one of the xerox machines when I heard fourpack call my name. Looking up I saw him across the floor aiming the 12 gauge right at me. I still have a vague recollection of flying ... levitating .... jumping? behind that heavy-duty xerox machine like The Flash. And, yes those big copiers would easily stop 12 gauge, 12 gauge anything...if you know the interior design of them -- and I did!
Needless to say, "Fourpack" didn't last there very much longer ......
 
How do we screen out people like that from owning guns without trampling on their "rights"?

I'm convinced that there are people who should never touch a gun, because they lack the requisite mental capacity or seriousness of purpose. These are criteria that cannot be legislated, however. We need to do self-policing. At the very least, if you know somebody like that, don't encourage him to get involved with guns! In fact, actively discourage him. (And it's true that you can't correct stupid.)
 
C'mon folks, that's obviously staged for one reason or the other.

No one shoots at targets that close on the ground with a shotgun while wearing a hunter orange vest. Why shoot 3 times. Why the vest? Why make that racket if you're hunting? This is either a hunter safety snip or it is a fake for youtube. The cut to the cap makes me believe it is part of a safety vid.

Regardless, people who are unsafe with firearms need to be taught without having to pay in blood so we should never tolerate unsafe firearms handling.

Here are good firearms safety videos from Midway http://www.midwayusa.com/General.mvc/Index/VideoLibrary
 
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Yea I wondered that myself. Can a gun fire like that, I mean what was the possible malfunction?
 
How do we screen out people like that from owning guns without trampling on their "rights"?
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That is utterly the wrong approach.

First, it is impossible (you can't prevent people from owning anything... there are people in the US who own slaves, today). Second, it can be abused (any method that makes it difficult for them to own guns can make it difficult for you or a single mom who needs to work nights and wants self protection). Third, it doesn't lead to improvement (like signing your kid up for violin lessons and then the first time she tries to practice saying, " that sounds awful," and taking away the violin...no chance the kid will get better that way).

I'm convinced that there are people who should never touch a gun, because they lack the requisite mental capacity or seriousness of purpose.
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I'm not. I'm convinced that some people need mentoring, and for some "mentoring" may mean standing glued to their shoulder watching them every second they are around guns for the rest of their lives. I have done that. Stood at the shoulder of a person with cognitive impairments and made sure they didn't hurt themselves or anyone else. He was a life-long shooter, and someone who mentored and helped teach me firearms safety, but brain injuries don't care. Do you really think it is better to say, "Sorry, you should stop doing this thing you have loved since childhood because you now can't do every aspect of it independently"?

At the very least, if you know somebody like that, don't encourage him to get involved with guns! In fact, actively discourage him. (And it's true that you can't correct stupid.)
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There are people I try to distract away from guns. If they bring guns up I will try to switch the subject to fishing or something. It isn't really based on their intelligence so much as a combination of existing alignment (how much they already treat guns the way I do) and my perception of my ability to influence them. If I think you have bad habits and are unlikely to try to adopt good habits (to the best of ability), I would rather talk about something else.
 
Question - it was posted that the video is phony. Does anyone have a link to where this video is debunked?

As for stupid people with guns, yep, seen a few of them. Some were in uniform, too.:what:
 
Whenver my boys and I went shooting, and at many other times, I said, "Now remember, natural selection is constantly at work to eliminate stupid people from the gene pool."

That's probably good to remember whenever you touch a firearm.
 
No one shoots at targets that close on the ground with a shotgun while wearing a hunter orange vest. Why shoot 3 times. Why the vest?
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I've seen things that were at least that stupid if not moreso, I assure you.
However, it doesn't surprise me at all to hear that its fake.
 
It is the combination of all the elements in the video that point to it not being an actual accident. Too many elements are incompatible.
 
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I'm convinced that there are people who should never touch a gun, because they lack the requisite mental capacity or seriousness of purpose.
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My brother in law has expressed this same sentiment. This is a guy I have had to ask repeatedly not to sweep me with the muzzle of a loaded (!) rifle, to the point that I avoid shooting with him, but he's worried about all those other people who "shouldn't" have guns.

It's kind of like everybody thinks they are an above average driver.
 
I saw nothing phony about it

1) The camera was stationary as many shooters do
2) He genuinely racked, shot, racked, shot, rack misfire (hangfire ? )
2) Even if he staged it with blanks after the 2nd shot, you would have to be pretty dumb to do that even as a stunt.

Even if it was, I am QUITE sure people have done that or worse... Like the woodworkers who have donated fingers to their table saws...:D

Also, from a personal safety standpoint even when I am 110% sure a gun is unloaded, I don't break that rule...its a bad habit that can be deadly and should not be done with ANY firearm...
 
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