Do you think it is worth my money to get the extra 3/16th stainless steel on the sides of the safe? That option is 600. It would make the sides of the safe 3/8th thick and resistant to torch and hammer/ax attack in the common areas thieves target. they can also add regular 3/16th sheets there for less than half that amount as well. I am looking at the 4827-6.
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a1abdj
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Short answer, no. If you're worried about a torch attack, and are storing the types of valuables that would attract that type of burglary, you should purchase a properly rated safe.
I have never seen a gun safe torched open in person, and the few that I have heard about make it obvious that it is not very common. I have owned Zykan Safe since 1990, and have seen most of what there is to be seen as far as burglarized safes go.
Statistically, a gun safe will never be attacked during a residential burglary, let alone with complicated tools. This is exactly the opposite of a commercial burglary where the safe is usually the target.
I have never seen a gun safe torched open in person, and the few that I have heard about make it obvious that it is not very common. I have owned Zykan Safe since 1990, and have seen most of what there is to be seen as far as burglarized safes go.
Statistically, a gun safe will never be attacked during a residential burglary, let alone with complicated tools. This is exactly the opposite of a commercial burglary where the safe is usually the target.
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Wouldn't the extra steel help protect against cutting/puncturing type attacks as well?
rbernie,my opinion for what it's worth,is yes.
But in a residential setting I still contend barring having power tools or heavy duty wrecking bars laying around and unsecured in the garage,most attacks like that wont happen.
At best the thief will try prying on the door with what he used to jimmy your front door with.
Fat chance he will get into a premium gun safe like that Sturdy with what he brought to pry his way into your house.
As far as a guy beating his way through a gun safe that has a 3/16 of an inch outer steel wall is slim unless he or they have some real time on their hands.
Sure it could be done and all of us have seen pictures on the internet of a safe beaten through.
And I have seen a 12 gauge Cannon Patriot that had the back beaten through,but....
Tell you what,walk up to some old junk cargo container,which by the way is generally made of 12 gauge steel of what type of steel I do not know but most better gun safes use A-36 steel,and see how long it takes you to beat your way through to a hole big enough to empty a gun safe.
We all want to protect our precious firearms but sometimes we over think some of these gun safe threads to the point of trying to make them survive an attack that will probably never happen.
But in a residential setting I still contend barring having power tools or heavy duty wrecking bars laying around and unsecured in the garage,most attacks like that wont happen.
At best the thief will try prying on the door with what he used to jimmy your front door with.
Fat chance he will get into a premium gun safe like that Sturdy with what he brought to pry his way into your house.
As far as a guy beating his way through a gun safe that has a 3/16 of an inch outer steel wall is slim unless he or they have some real time on their hands.
Sure it could be done and all of us have seen pictures on the internet of a safe beaten through.
And I have seen a 12 gauge Cannon Patriot that had the back beaten through,but....
Tell you what,walk up to some old junk cargo container,which by the way is generally made of 12 gauge steel of what type of steel I do not know but most better gun safes use A-36 steel,and see how long it takes you to beat your way through to a hole big enough to empty a gun safe.
We all want to protect our precious firearms but sometimes we over think some of these gun safe threads to the point of trying to make them survive an attack that will probably never happen.
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a1abdj
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Of course it would, but where does it stop, and where should one start?
I always hear the "I should buy this safe because it has thicker steel than this other safe", yet the person is still looking at a safe with thin steel. If thick steel was really the main motivation, everybody would be buying Graffunder, Brown, and other converted TL rated safes. The reality is people are shopping based on price, and when you put the typical gun safe budget up against a materials list, you're going to end up with relatively
thin steel.
There are a lot of safe manufacturers that spend money on design features that add expense to the safe, but aren't really usefull in the overall picture. Is adding $600 worth of steel to a $2,000 safe going to matter in the overall scheme of things? Perhaps in a very limited scope, but your odds of facing that 1 out of a million shot is probably not worth the 30% increase in cost.
During a brute force entry, some of these gimmicks may buy a little time. Against somebody who knows what they're doing, it won't make much of a difference at all.
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