Sub-moa wood rifle

[Trey Veston]

I have a rifle with a unique stock called an Acra-Bond laminate stock. Made by Mel Smart in the 90's, it blended fine custom wood with laminates.





When Mel died, his company became known as Serengeti Stock works. Then it was changed to Kilimanjaro Rifles sometime after.

http://kilimanjarorifles.com/features/lamination.html

They still make rifles like mine, but they start at around $15k.

 

[cdb1]

And also, I dont like the weatherby vanguard, i think its ugly.

What do you think about Remington 700’s?

 

[jmorris]

I've witnessed a lot of bench huggers that shoot of the bench, but standing up shooting from offhand not so good. A lot of people want a Sub-MOA rifle, but the shooters capability isn't up to the potential of the rifle.

As far as precision shooting is concerned, if the rifle isn’t capable of something from a stable position, it would take luck and chance for it to improve from less stable positions.

That said, why the guarantees are written the way they are or are a guarantee on the rifle, not the shooter.

I’m not certain I believe there is a bolt action model on the market right now from any of the major brands which I couldn’t make shoot sub-moa,

Even the cheap stuff is pretty impressive these days. Awhile back one of my wife’s friends wanted me to sight in a new rifle for him. It was one of the < $350 Mossberg rifle scope “combo” and he brought a box of Winchester super X (about the least expensive stuff money can buy) and despite it being chambered in the ancient 30-06 caliber, it wasn’t too far from the OP’s goal right out of the box with budget ammo.

It was one of these.

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/mo...pringfield-combo-bolt-action-rifle-with-scope

 

[35 Whelen]

You don't have to have a synthetic or laminated wood stock to keep POI's from wandering in changing climatic conditions. Shooters figured out years ago that free-floating a wood stock, thereby preventing the wood from touching the barrel anywhere in the barrel channel, eliminates the problem.

As far as finding a wood stocked, sub-MOA .270 in your price range, I don't imagine that would be a problem at all. A few years ago a coworker bought a new wood stocked Tikka in .308 and brought it to the house so I could help him sight it in. That rifle was insanely accurate easily shooting 1/2" 100 yd. groups.

35W

 

[jmorris]

You don't have to have a synthetic or laminated wood stock to keep POI's from wandering in changing climatic conditions. Shooters figured out years ago that free-floating a wood stock, thereby preventing the wood from touching the barrel anywhere in the barrel channel, eliminates the problem.

Fair point and an important part of Varminterror’s comment.

...which I couldn’t make...

Decades ago I had a Savage that was less than accurate, after bedding and rolling up sandpaper to free float the barrel channel, it was so impressive, I couldn’t figure out why the factory didn’t just make them that way, to start with.

 

[Space Ghost]

Many modern rifles can shoot well enough to hit that magic MOA box these days. Finding one with a nice classic wood stock for a decent price is another thing.

A few years ago, my wife bought a gun for the first time in her life. It was for me for my 50th birthday. She remembered when we were having a hard time after I came back from Iraq all banged up. Didn't have my disability yet, and had to sell some guns. One of them was my .308. So she bought me a .308. That's all she had to go on... the caliber. She knows nothing about guns. I never could get her into shooting.

I open my present... a Savage Axis in.308. Now it's a elcheapo for sure, in a craptastic plastic stock, but the thing will shoot straight. I put a better scope on it, a custom bolt knob (just because) and a Boyd's stock. Completely different rifle.

Someone said it already, but maybe you pick up a decent rifle in a composite stock, and then get a wood stock for it...


Here... just to show off a pretty Axis.

 

[35 Whelen]

Decades ago I had a Savage that was less than accurate, after bedding and rolling up sandpaper to free float the barrel channel, it was so impressive, I couldn’t figure out why the factory didn’t just make them that way, to start with.

Likewise, I had a buddy who was going on his first elk hunt and needed help with ammunition, sighting in, etc. He had one of those '90's ugly, el cheapo Savage's (110?) in 30-06 with the hardwood stock whose beauty paralleled that of a mud fence. I instructed him to buy a couple of boxes of Federal Premium's in 180 gr. Nosler Partition. We went to the range and I fired a couple of three shot groups to get the rifle "close", both of which were 1", maybe a little less.

35W

 

[illinoisburt]

What do you think about Remington 700’s?

Great older rifles. Honestly the new ones are just as accurate but have been showing up at dealers with rust and other cosmetic issues. Most all are finished in matte now and something simply hasn't worked out right lately.

 

[cdb1]

Great older rifles. Honestly the new ones are just as accurate but have been showing up at dealers with rust and other cosmetic issues. Most all are finished in matte now and something simply hasn't worked out right lately.

I should have been more concise. What I meant was how does Tucker25 feel about the Remington 700 looks since he doesn’t like the looks of Vanguards.

 

[Stevel]

Ruger Hawkeye Hunters are ok. Shoot less than 1" out of the box. Have ok wood, but at $900 there's enough room in the budget for a replacement.

Alas, only 6.5 CM, .308, 30-06 & 300 WIN....

 

[doubleh]

Many modern rifles can shoot well enough to hit that magic MOA box these days. Finding one with a nice classic wood stock for a decent price is another thing.

A few years ago, my wife bought a gun for the first time in her life. It was for me for my 50th birthday. She remembered when we were having a hard time after I came back from Iraq all banged up. Didn't have my disability yet, and had to sell some guns. One of them was my .308. So she bought me a .308. That's all she had to go on... the caliber. She knows nothing about guns. I never could get her into shooting.

I open my present... a Savage Axis in.308. Now it's a elcheapo for sure, in a craptastic plastic stock, but the thing will shoot straight. I put a better scope on it, a custom bolt knob (just because) and a Boyd's stock. Completely different rifle.

Someone said it already, but maybe you pick up a decent rifle in a composite stock, and then get a wood stock for it...


Here... just to show off a pretty Axis.
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Holy cow, gee whiz, son-of-a-gun, I didn't know it was possible to turn an Axis, the red headed step-child of rifles, into something that nice. I bought one of the early one's before the accu-trigger was put on them in 22-250 for a coyote hunting gun. I built a wood stock from scratch and painted it camo as there was nothing after market available at that time and it looks much better but nothing like yours. I think your picture just inspired a winter project for me.