Suggestions for 7.62x39mm ammo for ballistic gelatin testing

[Brass Fetcher]

I've got a 7.62x39mm rifle on loan to me and I would like to shoot it into ballistic gelatin. Here is a list of 'maybe' tests that I may be doing with this cartridge:

Maybe - Wolf FMJ & HP
Definitely - Hornady 110gr (or/and 123gr) V-max

What ammo would you like to see? Please just go ahead and post whatever you like and what would be useful results to the majority of 7.62x39mm owners... I will make a poll with the results in a day or so.

Thank you,

JE

 

[Cosmoline]

The 123 FMJ loads are very well studied. But I'd LOVE to see a test of the CorBon 150's. They're advertised at 2300 fps.

 

[R.W.Dale]

WOLF 154grn SPplease

And if you're feelin test a 30-30 150grn sp as well

 

[petej]

Wolf Military Classic JHP

Wolf Military Classic JHP

http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11907

 

[Bigfoot]

Here's a vote for the 123 gr V-MAX that you mentioned. It's been available for several years and it might have solved the overpenetration problem of most 7.62x39 loadings but for some reason nobody that I know of has gel tested it. Kinda strange really. Now that we have the Wolf MC HP the need for a fragmenting bullet isn't there as much but I'm still curious as to how this Hornady bullet performs. I'd like to see it tested against typical wall construction materials also.

 

[petej]

perhaps some Corbon JHP too?

Corbon 7.62x39 125gr. JHP

http://www.stoppingpower.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6965&SearchTerms=7.62

I would not buy the corbon, too expensive for what you get.

Now if Corbon made DPX in in 7.62x39 I would definately like to see the stats on that!

 

[_N4Z_]

I'd like to see some Brown Bear (Barnaul) 123gr fmj testing

It is cleaner and more accurate out of my AK.

But the Wolf stuff gets used at this location too.

 

[possum]

i agree with the above poster the wolf 154gr sp, they are the most accurate out of all the surplus ammo that i found, in both my sks and my mak-90. i would really like to see what it will do. no matter what rds you decide on i can't wait to see the results.

 

[DMK]

I have some Wolf Classic HP and some Barnual HP that I'd be glad to donate.

The Wolf Classic is different from regular Wolf HP and rumored to have superior terminal ballistics.

 

[Zippy06]

Save your money.
And Search the internet.
I saw a story a few months back. Thought I saved it. Can't find it.
This guy did it all.
Nice report.
I will never buy an AK.
A 30-30 has more power.

 

[Plink]

I'd love to see a test of Cor-Bon's 150 grainers or Wolf's 154's.

 

[DMK]

Save your money.
And Search the internet.
I saw a story a few months back. Thought I saved it. Can't find it.
This guy did it all.
Nice report.

Um, what are you talking about?

Can you be a little more specific?

 

[Zippy06]

C'Habla inglesss.
I found a story on the INTERNET, a few months ago.
Someone???????????? did the gel test with various guns, bullets, er whatever..........
Lots of pictures.
Is that enough, explanation?

 

[Brass Fetcher]

@Zippy06 - This is the High Road. We would all like to see your sources. Here is a link to a 7.62x39mm softpoint test that I did:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=262358

This was an underpressure cartridge, so much more is possible IMO.

 

[DMK]

My apologies JE223.

 

[R.W.Dale]

A 30-30 has more power

I wouldn't bet on that if I were you.

30-30 vs 7.62x39

154grn wolf

100yd ZERO = -6.8" at 200yds @1205 FTlbs
*************************
150grn Corelokt

100yd ZERO= -7.6" at 200yds @858 FTlbs
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170grn Corelokt

100yd ZERO= -8.3" at 200yds @989 FTlbs
*************************

The wolf load has the same energy at 100 yds as a 170grn 30-30 bullet. These figures DO NOT take into account the rather overly optimistic factory velocities on 30-30 ammo

In fact the $4 per box wolf has almost identical energy and trajectory as the 160grn leverevolution

Ammo Weight 20"bbl

Remington
Express 170 2012 fps

Hornady
Evolution 160 2287 fps

Federal
Fusion 150 2313 fps

PMC
Bronze 150 2211 fps

Winchester
Power Point 150 2234 fps

154grn Wolf 154 2200FPS from my 18" barrel

 

[strat81]

How about a test of hunting and SD/HD ammo? I'm thinking soft point and hollow point ammo. Some ideas:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=464304
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=488562
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=781554
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=244739
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=668169
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=268206
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=132144
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=569114

Brass Fetcher rocks the house!

 

[chris in va]

I'd like to see the 154gr as well, but also the regular Golden Tiger boattail stuff.

 

[No_Brakes23]

W4, (Wally World Winchester Whitebox,) and Remington UMC are two I am interested in. I know they don't laquer up my SKS like the Russian Steel does, and I use them when I want to shoot my SKS at an indoor range that does not allow Wolf. I also save the brass when I can.

Also if you can find some Yugo boxer-primed surplus, (It comes in boxes of 40 on the stippers,) that would be awesome. Not holding my breath, though.

 

[Thin Black Line]

I'm quite impressed w/ JE223'a x39 softpoint gel hit

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=54890&d=1173919093

For those of you stuck on 30-30, check this out and compare:

http://www.firearmstactical.com/images/Wound Profiles/30-30 Winchester.jpg

 

[Brass Fetcher]

I like all of the softpoints that have been mentioned... the heavier stuff like the Cor-Bon and Wolf look like good contenders.

 

[Spiggy]

the wooden ammo that sportsmansguide is selling

 

[Brass Fetcher]

Does anyone know of the availability (legality of ownership) of genuine military ammunition for this cartridge? What about AP, tracer or APIT?

Thank you...

 

[strat81]

JE223, Tracer ammo is available in a variety of calibers from many places (Cheaper than dirt comes to mind). Armor piercing... No.

 

[WinchesterAA]

+1 for 154gr SP from WOLF.

I love this ammunition for it's sheer dead-tree obliterating goodness, I'd love to see what a SP actually does to something that resembles flesh.