Suggestions for an Ar-15

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if u want a good milspec clone for not too much that will perform on par with an army issue m4 get a cmmg u won't be dissappointed, I know I wasn't ;)
 
I'm looking into buying an Ar-15 what would be the best manufacturer??

first: what will be the main use of the AR?

Home Defence
Target shooting
Range fun
Varmint Hunting
Gun Matchs
Hunting....

second: what caliber you want it in? .223, 7.62x39, 5.45, .50 beowulf...

then... what kind of setup/profile you want...

HBAR
Rifle lenght 20''
Carbine 16''
SBR 14.5 and under...
 
Colt is usually the yard stick by which others are measured. You can get better and you can get worse. But a Colt will be, baring a lemon, a good rifle.

My low price (around 1000 or less) list would be:
Bushmaster
Armalite
Stag
Rock River Arms

More expensive (1000 and above) would be:
Colt
Lewis Machine and Tool
Noveske
Daniel Defense
LWRC

I am missing a few, especially on the expensive list. Of my lists, Ive owned a couple Bushmasters that were great and currently own a Colt thats great. Ive shot all the rifles on the cheap list and they performed well. On the expensive list I only have experience with the Colts, but have never heard a bad word about the others.
 
I've answered these questions the last 3-4 times, now I'm gonna be one of 'those' guys that says SEARCH!

It's been covered at length many times lately.
 
+1 to the search

I have a DPMS, but... I did care about money... if I didnt I think the S&W would be my choice.

SW aren't really that much more than the DPMS, I paid 800 for a SW about a year ago.

To answer the OP Noveske, colt, or LMT if price is no issue. I've honestly never handled a CMMG, so I won't comment on them.
 
if someone put together a thoughtful, well-written post or two, I'd be happy to add it to Bartholomew's library sticky. Sticking a string of posts consisting of nothing more than people shouting whatever brand they own... seems suboptimal.
 
For those who don't have a deep knowledge of what makes an AR "good", "better", or "best", I usually tend to send them to 'The Chart'. It is not the end-all/be-all source on the subject, but it is a good tool for a beginner to start out with because rob_s did an excellent job of explaining features and specs in layman's terminology. I think what 'The Chart' does best, is to inform the novices what the tip of the iceberg looks like.

It should be noted that 'The Chart' only compares a small number of M4 direct impingement rifles, and there are a lot of things rob_s could not include there because of the vast family of variations that exist under the "AR-15" title.

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hth
 
i have to question the credibility of the chart, and have since i first saw it.

the first (and thus as a result only) category i ever checked out in the chart in more than a sample size of 1 rifle, turned out to be false.

im not going to expend effort into verifying anything else on it, ive seen enough.
 
Clyde Armory in Bogart/Athens Georgia has used Colt LE 6920s on the rack for $920.00
 
I personally own, Colt, LMT, Daniel Defense.

You can buy and excellent Bravo Co Manufacturing for less the $1000.

I owned a Bushmaster, I don't have it anymore.

Tier one (must have DoD contract or the Military is known to buy from these companies in QTY):
Colt
FN
LMT
HK
Tier two (good enough to be tier 1, but have no DoD contracts):
Noveske
BCM
Sabre Defence
KAC
Daniel Defense
Tier three:
Charles Daly
S&W
Tier four:
DPMS
BM
RRA
Oly
Armalite
 
and if your not worried about price i would say a noveski or a knights armament.

ive never owned one of either so it should indicate there are still people out there whos opinions should count.

i have a bushmaster (actually 2) with over 7k rounds each, and still, never a single hiccup from either, and both will shoot moa here and there (more often than not) but im not suggesting them because i dont feel like defending them.

when i first got into the ar rifles, i didnt ask anyone which kind were best. i knew what that revealed. not what is best, but what everyone has (see above). which honestly is fine, theres nothing wrong with that, but is that really what your after?
 
im not going to expend effort into verifying anything else on it, ive seen enough.

Then I suppose when you find one bad egg, you'll never eat breakfast again.:rolleyes: The chart has been revised many times now over the years. Like I said, what it does best is introduce beginners to the many features of the rifle.
Those who don't know, ask. But those who know, don't need to ask.
 
lol, funny analogy

i just wont cook that egg, and if eggs ever cost 1500 dollars and it happens, i might buy eggs from a different company if i still want breakfast. no matter how you slice them, some eggs just arent right for some people
 
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