Suppressor should not cost this much!

[Mark_Mark]

Yes!

$1000 is to much to blow only to find out I should have gotten a bigger one, smaller one, longer one, shorter one, heavier one, lighter one or completely different design. Every compressor has some unique technology which makes it the "best compressor ever made", it is hard to even know where to start.

Which suppressor did you purchase? What caliber?

banish 45 & .22k … it’s cool, just very simple. Bet ChatGPT can design a more effective! cheap suppressor

 

[JDeere]

It's cool and awesome but the whole deal is like caving in to the man. I'm not begging them for the permission to buy one. I'll just make noise. That's called fuddy duddy I suppose.

Along with what I mentioned earlier this is another rub I have with getting one. Yeah I know the Gubment already knows all about me but it's the principle. Kind of the same deal with people falling all over themselves to register those pistol braces. To be fair I have nothing against the suppressors. I actually checked into getting one. My buddy at the LGS suggested I just get a new rifle that was threaded already. I just chuckled and said yeah you know that's another 1500 bucks to get what I want plus glass. I have been shooting high powered rifles and handguns for darn near 70 years. I learned how to deal with noise and recoil without one long ago. Maybe someday if things ever change...

 

[Mark_Mark]

Along with what I mentioned earlier this is another rub I have with getting one. Yeah I know the Gubment already knows all about me but it's the principle. Kind of the same deal with people falling all over themselves to register those pistol braces. To be fair I have nothing against the suppressors. I actually checked into getting one. My buddy at the LGS suggested I just get a new rifle that was threaded already. I just chuckled and said yeah you know that's another 1500 bucks to get what I want plus glass. I have been shooting high powered rifles and handguns for darn near 70 years. I learned how to deal with noise and recoil without one long ago. Maybe someday if things ever change...

Gun Optics are very complex, robust, accurate

suppressors for rifles… I would perfer a heavy big mono-core with a small price tag

$500 is a good medium! $1000+ is just for people with $$$$$ or the government

 

[mavracer]

Banish 45
Free .22 22k ( thing that what it’s called)

Nothing is free you got a $600 45 ACP can and paid $350 for a 22 can.
The Silencer Central Banish cans really aren't anything special for similar money you could have got a Rugged Obsidian 45 that's rated for rifle calibers and plenty of good rimfire cans for 300ish

lol!!! they literally ship to your door !

In order to do that SC maintains a FFL and SOT in every state they ship to, you're paying for that too.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Nothing is free you got a $600 45 ACP can and paid $350 for a 22 can.
The Silencer Central Banish cans really aren't anything special for similar money you could have got a Rugged Obsidian 45 that's rated for rifle calibers and plenty of good rimfire cans for 300ish

In order to do that SC maintains a FFL and SOT in every state they ship to, you're paying for that too.

I’m just complaining, probably buy another in thr $600 range and see if if there is a difference

 

[BreechFace]

I’m just complaining, probably buy another in thr $600 range and see if if there is a difference

Probably not enough for your untrained ear and without equipment to tell.

People told me I would be disappointed with my Hybrid 46 can as it’s over bore for a lot of my uses. Guess what, it still sounds good enough to me for all my hunting needs where there are not long strings of fire. For the “do-all” nature up to 45 caliber it’s hard to beat. One can get dedicated suppressors afterwards but I suggest to all those looking to get into suppressors that have a lot of different caliber and some being larger than 30 or 35 cal to start with a 22 can and a Hybrid 46 or something similar from another manufacturer.

 

[jmorris]

If our .gov would deregulate them, so they could ship them over here from China, like everything else we buy that’s non firearm related, HF could sell them for $19.99.

Its the last business that don’t have to compete with foreign mfg. At least for civilian sales. Lack of competition leads to higher prices.

If we stopped importing everything else from China, lots of prices would go up.

 

[BreechFace]

If our .gov would deregulate them, so they could ship them over here from China, like everything else we buy that’s non firearm related, HF could sell them for $19.99.

He’s not wrong.

…but point of impact shift may be bad enough on purpose to kill the American next to you at the range.

 

[jmorris]

He’s not wrong.

…but point of impact shift may be bad enough on purpose to kill the American next to you at the range.

I think all of our manufacturing, shipped over there has really helped them out. They have ”incorporated“ proprietary (before it was handed over) knowledge, metallurgy, process, etc.

Why, when I was a kid they made finger cuffs and tooth pick holders. Now they make the device you are reading this with…for a price you can afford.

That and it’s not rocket science, I have built a number on form 1’s that work just as well as some people pay money for. Takes awhile on manual equipment but the price is right.

 

[Hoser]

I would perfer the cheap mono core, steel, weight don’t matter. Size doesn’t matter either

Thats cute. Loud and heavy. Everything people dont want in a can.

 

[BreechFace]

@jmorris your right, I’m just joking. Chinese manufacturing has come a long way for our American desire to have everything cheap and not have to do it ourselves.

No doubt a HF $20 suppressor would probably work and probably well enough.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Thats cute. Loud and heavy. Everything people dont want in a can.

Growing up in the family pawn business, I learned that there are a lot of things people want and a lot of things people will settle for when price/cost is on the line. There will always be people like Mark Mark (no judgement) that perceive things differently and have different wants/needs. We even had a box of broken tools people could make us an offer on any or all of it and we sold a bunch of broken tools. Every so often, some guy would make a lowball offer for the entire box and go home with a box of broken tools. Why? Because if the price point is right, people will often consider the product to be a decent value despite its shortcomings. Part of the reason people are buying other, cheaper muzzle devices that aren't suppressors in order to reduce noise to the shooter. They aren't very good, but do help and people will buy them.

 

[mavracer]

I’m just complaining, probably buy another in thr $600 range and see if if there is a difference

Some people have to pee on the electric fence themselves
It really takes a pretty dramatic difference in Db for the human ear to pick up, many times it's a difference in tone that is more noticeable.
I've got 4 different rimfire cans and have heard another 1/2 dozen in person, ammo and host play a big roll in how suppressors sound.
That little SC 22 can will be very quiet on a rifle with subsonic ammo and there won't be a huge difference going to a longer can. you'll need more volume to get quiet on a pistol so they'll be a more significant going to a 5 or 6" suppressor.
Similar results will happen with centerfire cans.

 

[Reeferman]

Consider yourself lucky that you can get a supressor.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Growing up in the family pawn business, I learned that there are a lot of things people want and a lot of things people will settle for when price/cost is on the line. There will always be people like Mark Mark (no judgement) that perceive things differently and have different wants/needs. We even had a box of broken tools people could make us an offer on any or all of it and we sold a bunch of broken tools. Every so often, some guy would make a lowball offer for the entire box and go home with a box of broken tools. Why? Because if the price point is right, people will often consider the product to be a decent value despite its shortcomings. Part of the reason people are buying other, cheaper muzzle devices that aren't suppressors in order to reduce noise to the shooter. They aren't very good, but do help and people will buy them.

I tried those Krinkoff devices, they work, especially in short barrel .223

 

[Mark_Mark]

Some people have to pee on the electric fence themselves
It really takes a pretty dramatic difference in Db for the human ear to pick up, many times it's a difference in tone that is more noticeable.
I've got 4 different rimfire cans and have heard another 1/2 dozen in person, ammo and host play a big roll in how suppressors sound.
That little SC 22 can will be very quiet on a rifle with subsonic ammo and there won't be a huge difference going to a longer can. you'll need more volume to get quiet on a pistol so they'll be a more significant going to a 5 or 6" suppressor.
Similar results will happen with centerfire cans.

I thought a out it more than several times! wonder if I would feel it!?!?!?!

 

[Double Naught Spy]

tried those Krinkoff devices, they work, especially in short barrel .223

"Work" is relative. They are definitely less user friendly than a suppressor in terms of overall performance and performance at the shooter's ear and to the ears of the folks around the shooter.

And let's face it. If they worked that well, you wouldn't be considering a suppressor. Like you said, suppressors are expensive and should not cost $1000, but if a suppressor was as cheap as your Krinkoff, you would likely trash the Krinkoff and have a suppressor as suppressors work that much better, right?

The reality is that they "work" but not that well, but the are some improvement over not having one and are at a good price point for some folks.

 

[Mark_Mark]

"Work" is relative. They are definitely less user friendly than a suppressor in terms of overall performance and performance at the shooter's ear and to the ears of the folks around the shooter.

And let's face it. If they worked that well, you wouldn't be considering a suppressor. Like you said, suppressors are expensive and should not cost $1000, but if a suppressor was as cheap as your Krinkoff, you would likely trash the Krinkoff and have a suppressor as suppressors work that much better, right?

The reality is that they "work" but not that well, but the are some improvement over not having one and are at a good price point for some folks.

they are good for range use! it doesn’t annoy people next to ya

 

[Double Naught Spy]

they are good for range use! it doesn’t annoy people next to ya

Again, you wouldn't be looking for a suppressor and complaining about prices if a Krinkoff actually worked very well. They have some value, no doubt, but are poor substitutes for suppressors.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Again, you wouldn't be looking for a suppressor and complaining about prices if a Krinkoff actually worked very well. They have some value, no doubt, but are poor substitutes for suppressors.

Krinkoff direct (kinda) and not suppress. that, with electronic ears would make a great home setup

 

[Electrod47]

Somebody said a few years ago That soon we will be making our choice of suppressor from a display at Walmart hanging in a blister pak.....???? I will wait.

 

[mavracer]

And let's face it. If they worked that well, you wouldn't be considering a suppressor. Like you said, suppressors are expensive and should not cost $1000, but if a suppressor was as cheap as your Krinkoff, you would likely trash the Krinkoff and have a suppressor as suppressors work that much better, right?

I'm not sure that's entirely true first even if they were removed from the NFA you're just not gonna get a suppressor as cheap as a flash can.
Second I've been within earshot (pun intended) of a couple cheap solvent trap suppressors and on a semi auto the port pop is bad enough that you're gonna want some ear protection.
There's a reason my suppressors live on my bolt action 22s and my 10/22 and AR15 22lr have cheap Levang linear comps.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I'm not sure that's entirely true first even if they were removed from the NFA you're just not gonna get a suppressor as cheap as a flash can.
Second I've been within earshot (pun intended) of a couple cheap solvent trap suppressors and on a semi auto the port pop is bad enough that you're gonna want some ear protection.
There's a reason my suppressors live on my bolt action 22s and my 10/22 and AR15 22lr have cheap Levang linear comps.

this is a SC 22K .22 can, what would you realistically charge for this design, and still make a comfortable profit?

 

[mavracer]

this is a SC 22K .22 can, what would you realistically charge for this design, and still make a comfortable profit?

I really have no idea what the cost would be to machine that. @MachIVshooter has already weighed in on what the machines themselves run I seriously doubt anyone will set them up and fun them for minimum wage. I know what machine operators make in the aircraft world.
But would seem that given that design is discontinued, I suspect they aren't making a very good profit even using them to entice you to buy a 500-600 dollar can for a grand.
It's just not a very good design and making it out of Ti doesn't really help as that puts the cost up where you can get much better designs.
The current BOGO comes with a baffle can and is much quieter with less FRP.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I really have no idea what the cost would be to machine that. @MachIVshooter has already weighed in on what the machines themselves run I seriously doubt anyone will set them up and fun them for minimum wage. I know what machine operators make in the aircraft world.
But would seem that given that design is discontinued, I suspect they aren't making a very good profit even using them to entice you to buy a 500-600 dollar can for a grand.
It's just not a very good design and making it out of Ti doesn't really help as that puts the cost up where you can get much better designs.
The current BOGO comes with a baffle can and is much quieter with less FRP.

sorry, my comment was supposed to be to @MachIVshooter