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SureFire sound suppressor

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Flyboy73, Mar 24, 2006.

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  1. Flyboy73

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    I saw on american rifleman tv show the SureFire sound suppressor. I also remembered seeing at a local gun show this weekend that Michigan can get sound suppressor know.

    I am thinking about getting a Carbine upper for my Bushmaster and thought a suppressor would go good with it.

    Whats the cost of it? No price on the Surefire web site.

    Also if anyone has one how do they like it?


    As far as the ATF goes, Do you just need to fill out the paperwork, pay $200 and wait for ATF approval? Do you also need to go through a Class 3 dealer?

    Thanks
    Brion
     
  2. Zak Smith

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    For an interstate transfer, it would nee to be transferred from SureFire to your Class 3 SOT (FFL) on a Form 3, and then transfered to you on a Form 4, with the $200 tax and fingerprints & CLEO signoff OR corp paperwork.

    There are a lot of suppressor options, depending on what your needs are.

    For my money, I will go with with JET from now on because of zero POI change and light weight.

    -z
     
  3. Telperion

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    I don't think they sell to private citizens. Surefire is located in California and there is a state law that prohibits suppressor manufacturers from selling to anyone other than LE/military.
     
  4. Zak Smith

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    I am pretty sure the broke that code...
     
  5. Telperion

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    Zak, if you've seen one in private hands, I'm guessing it took a circuitous path from Surefire to its owner. ;)
     
  6. Trebor

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    The suppressor issue in Michigan has not yet been resolved. The Michigan AG ruling that allowed private citizens to buy transferable MG's does, on the surface to a layman, seem to also allow suppressors. However, the opinion does not mention suppressors specifically. The Michigan State Police are of the opinion that it does not make suppressors legal. The ATF has said they will process Form 3's and Form 4's for Michigan residents for MG's, but they have not issued any ruling on suppressors.

    A letter regarding suppressors specifically has been sent to AG Cox for clarification. Wait until he issues his opinion before planning to buy a surpressor. The ATF won't sign off on your paperwork until then anyway.
     
  7. Correia

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    I'm an SOT.

    I don't care for the Surefire can. It isn't very quiet. It is light, and it does return to zero really well, but it is the loudest modern .223 can we've tested. And it is expensive.

    Do some research before you spend your money.
     
  8. Mizzle187

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    I saw that episode! I couldnt get over the Surfire guys get-up! :) If Surfire was restricted to LE/Military there are other suppressors out there that are as good if not better!
     
  9. Zak Smith

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    Telperion,

    You can find the CA/suppressor export story on AR15.com. This would mean OPS Inc cans would also be available. I have not handled on in person.

    -z
     
  10. chakup

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    from what I've read- yes read only here so grain of salt- 5.56 is not the best round to suppress so don't expect magic quiet. Most can's that have been tested are within a coule dB of each other. I went with a tac-16 for my first can/first class III adventure. My decision was based on price mainly- I got in on a great deal on it.
     
  11. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Ops Inc. cans are available to civilians now...check out http://www.fbmginc.com/

    By the way, does Jet make a quick detach suppressor or is it threaded versions only?
     
  12. Zak Smith

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    JET has an "outer thread" connector available similar to the M4-2000.
     
  13. MagnumCaliber357

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    off topic question (hi-jacking thread, should have brought your makeshift knife :neener: ) does anyone know if there are suppersors out there that will accomodate an FNC

    Im getting a substanical amount of money and want to invest in in a FNC and would like a suppressor for it too. Ive seen plent of 223 suppresors but how do i get an adapter?!?! if needed.
     
  14. Zak Smith

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    If it has a NATO 22mm flash hider, the Gemtech HALO would fit.
     
  15. MagnumCaliber357

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    I stumbled across the website by the great Rob Silvers (ever seen any of his full-auto vids, a MUST watch, anyone got the link?)

    http://silencertests.com/reviews/list.pl?sortby=suppressed

    it has all the results from silencer tests in about every caliber

    Looks like SoundTech WarTech came out on top and priced fairly too
     
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    I am just repeating something I read on-line, but I read that Surefire filed a lawsuit in the state of ********** and it was determined that the state had no right to restrict the sales of Surefire's suppressors. As far as I know, they are available.
    Also just repeating what I read: the people who say they have tried the Surefire can are not impressed at all with it.

    I can't see why an FNC would be any more difficult to suppress than anything else.

    "5.56 is not the best round to suppress"
    I don't know what the BEST round to suppress is, but I can tell you that I own five suppressors: .22 rifle, .22 handgun, 9mm handgun, 9mm AR15, .223. Out of all of them (and all the suppressors I have ever heard), by far the most dramatic suppresson (to me) is with the .223. The difference between suppressed and not suppressed is greater with the .223 than any other suppressor I own or have personally heard. It takes an ear splitting report and suppresses it to about the sound of a .22 rifle. It can easily be fired without hearing protection and the good ones meet OSHA standards for noise without hearing protection.
     
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